Re: idea's
« Reply #25,  »
If the bifilar coil can produce a magnetic field, and a dielectric field when pulsed,
and it can make a dielectric field, and a longitudinal field (without magnetic field) when opposite pulsed from both sides,
How does this longitudinal field manifests itself?

The dielectric, is in the 2D plane of the pancake windings. the magnetic field is wrapped around the windings in a spacial 3D field
The longitudinal field, I think, is beaming of at a right angel to the windings. but, I dont believe in straight lines, So It would be a vortex. one above and one below.

As the dielectric fields are counter rotating, it would also be a double vortex, counter rotating.

To have bifilar coils, tuned to the smae resonant frequency,  stacked, but spaced apart. Would create a vortex inbetween the coils. one, might amplifiy the other, giving rise to more and more dielectric field energy. If we tap into this dielectric field, and take its energy away, the longitudinal vortexes would keep resupplying the dielectric field voltage.

The standing waves of the dielectric field, in a bifilar coil, when pulsed without the magnetic field, would make the whole surface of the windings give a impulse to the longitudinal wave. Due to the rotational energy, from outside to inside, and inside to outside.
Re: idea's
« Reply #26,  »
A caduceus coil, would do the same thing. but, the dielectric field is not as strong as in the bifilar coil.
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« Reply #27,  »
found a german engineer (speaks English) who has a theory about longitudinal field. he is a profesional.
has written several books about it. solid information i think. find him on youtube

Konstantin Meyl
Re: idea's
« Reply #28,  »
Read some of Konstantin Meyl's work. He states, the longitudinal vortex, keeps rolling if the antenna ratio is based on Phi.
So if we consider the bifilar coil, as a antenna, transmitting longitudinal vortices, we would need a hole in the middle, with phi ratio to the windings, as I have stated before.

then when 2 coils are close together, like in nelson rocha's setup, the vortises between them, can amplify eachother

the dielectric field induces the longitudinal field, and vice versa.
So the vortex of one coil, induces the dielectric field of the other coil, which then again induces its own longitudinal vortex. Just like eddy currents. but then in form of the other fields.

If we tap into the dielectric energy produced, the longitudinal vortex energy will resupply.
Re: idea's
« Reply #29,  »Last edited
a screenshot of nelsons center blue coils, with the white dielectric in between them

from this video:

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Re: idea's
« Reply #30,  »
with magnetic fields we have eddy currents.
due to the polarisation of the magnetic field these eddy currents are counter productive.

but what if this phenomenon also occurs in the dielectric field. where the field induces vortices.

due to the nature of the dielectric field these "eddy" vortices might be supportive instead of destructive. in other words, they could produce voltage. dielectric fields.

these "eddy" vortices might manifest in the longitudinal field.

I again had to think of tesla's patents:
U.S. Patent 1,061,142 - Fluid Propulsion
U.S. Patent 1061206-turbine
related to water. creating vortices.

today I also made my water spin in the bottle. I could see the vortex. the vortex had a line of air bubbles underneath it. and in this line there was a oscillation up and down. interesting.
Re: idea's
« Reply #31,  »
if we have a dielectric field in a capacitor. where one plate is +100 and one plate is -100
is there a polarisation in the dielectric field? does it flow in 1 direction? from high to low or low to high voltage?

lightning can be observed moving from the earth to the cloud and vice versa.

in the bifilar coil we have winding alternating in a high and low voltage. is the dielectric field between the windings flowing in a specific direction? towards the high or low voltage?
Re: idea's
« Reply #32,  »
a line (2 string rope) (longitudinal)
a flat double spiral (pancake) (dielectric)
a spacial double vortex (donut/toroid) (magnetic)

the vortices end in a line (2 string rope)

full circle
tesla's patent signature
« Reply #33,  »
today I looked ad the signature of Tesla in his patents.

Is it normal for him to let his attorney sign the documents? because the signatures are very differnt on some of the patents. they look as if the attorney made the signature (same writing style)

  i even found a  patent  without tesla's signature. only his name in print.

I find this very odd.
If I was granted a patent i would personally sign it.
but I must admit I dont have hundrets of patents on my name. maybe he wanted to spend his time on more relevant experimenting...

see for yourself at the  tesla universe website
« Reply #34,  »
Resonance. What is it?
I've promised to make a video about it. but its not that easy.

In music, resonance is used all over the place. But in electrics its hardly everused.
most instruments makes use of resonance. a guitar string, when plukked vibrates at its resonant frequency.
A pinao when played, the hammer hits the strings, and they vibrate at their resonant frequency.
We can tune the resonant freuqency by changing the tension of the string, or the mass.
This vibrating, resonant frequency, is not only done by the strings, but also by the wood of the instrument. It gets amplified. And the air (medium) around it also resonates. producing longitudinal presure waves, we call sound. and our ears can pick them up.

Every coil and every capacitor has its own resonant frequency. If a coil is energised, this resonant frequency shows up as a fading sine wave. And if we pulse the coil at this frequency the sine wave grows bigger.  The medium around it (ether) also starts to resonate (longitudinal?) and metal objects in the area also.
If I have a bifilar coil, pulsed at its resonant frequency. this frequency can be read from a nearby metal object. just put a osciloscope on it and you will read the same sine wave. and with alot of voltage.

This resonant transfer must be like sound, the longitudinal energy wave moves through the ether, and transferres its energy into a metal object, where we can read the sine voltage.

Just like sound. the string vibrates at its resonant freuqency produceing longitudinal pressure waves through the air, and the air transfers this longitudinal energy to the membrane of a microphone, where it is picked up and transduced into a electric signal via a coil.

The bifilar coil has a lower resonant freuqnecy due to its added capacitance. And the voltage rise in nearby metals is very great.
So there is a relation between dielectric field energy, and longitudinal field energy.  Are they the same? I dont think so. but they seam to interact easily.

The dielectric field would be strong in between the windings. but it also seems to flow into the space around the coil, as we can measure the sine voltage in nearby conducting objects.

These fields are not static electricity. they are dynamic.
How can we make use of these pressure wave fields (tsunami's)

I really think there is a lot more to this field. but to let it gain in strength we would need more voltage.
I'm still afraid of this higher potential.  On one hand it seems harmless, but on the other hand, its not so harmless, it seems to interact with the energy of life itself. It can make me sick.
And, the sparks, have burned me often. once you grab the wire, its OK. but if you let it spark, is HOT, and it will leave a burnmark spot.
The energy gives a feeling of being alive. And I do know it can be used for medicine. Its life itself.

switching between series and parallel bifilar
« Reply #35,  »
a bifilar coil has 2 windings and 4 endings.
tesla's paten 512340 shows the series connected bifilar pancake coil. It has a magnetic and a dielecteic field. when energised it can store energy like a capacitor.

but the coil can as an alternative be connected in parallel. this coil has no magnetic field (cancelled).
the dielectric field is not even distritributed as in the series connected coil. in the parallel at the plus and minus the voltage difdernce is biggest, at the center there is no difference. the windings are counter wound. one clockwise and one counter clockwise.

the difference between the series and parallel coil is the bridge and the "output". these connections can be switched easily with a relays (on-on).

with a electric circuit it should also be possible to switch.

why should we do this?
in the series connection. we charge the coil. the magnetic field builds up. the dielectric field builds up.

then with a flick of the switch, all the energy stored in the magnetic and dielectric field, isnt supported anymore by the coil structure.

the magnetic field now should be cancelled. and the dielectric field should be pushed to the input and output.

sounds a bit like a generator?

anyway. i havent worked with electronic on-on switches. you would need 2
one for the 'bridge' connection. to switch series to parallel.
and one to switch the output.

one cycle to charge the fields (series connected)
other cycle to cancel the field and push the dielectric voltage to the output

When I first thought of this concept, it made me think of bedini's ssg. the bifilar coil he uses, is also switched.
you could use the magnetic field to drive the wheel at the right possition. but then the field start working agains the wheel. thats when you switch. the field collapses, and maybe just maybe the magnetic field of the wheel magnet might produce a voltage in the parallel mode.

dielectric between coils
« Reply #36,  »
Since the dielectric influences the voltage produced,
i want to use a dielectric between the bifilar pancale coils.

but how and what material?

I could make a paper mould and fill it with molten candle wax.

hot glue would also be a good one.

or silicon kit.

when the temperature drops some products might shrink, this would be bad for the distamce between the coils.

It could also be in layers build up. (oh my grammar. :imsorry:
double ring vortex
« Reply #37,  »Last edited
a ring vortex has  a rotating ring.

the rotational direction is related to the direction the ring vortex moves in.

what happens when 2 equal ring vortices collide?
it depends on the relative direction.

head on they destroy (there is a youtube vid on this)

but from the same direction they entangle. but it requires one moving faster than the other. and the same direction.

if we translate this to the magnetic and dielectric,
one has to be lower in frequency. and their direction needs to be the same.

to transfer this to nelsons setup,
a magnetic vortex coil combines with a dielectric ring vortex coil (blue middle with dielectric).
and a output coil. so the energy moves from one end to the other.

the center coil is not the output. its the dielectric ringvortex. the left coil is the magnetic vortex that combines with the dielectric ring vortex. giving it power. (wrapping around it?)

the output coil only sees the magnetic and dielectric combined fields

In the picture; light blue is the magnetic vortex
green is the dielectric ring vortex
dark blue is the output

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Re: idea's
« Reply #38,  »
or... the magnetic vortex travels completly through to the other side, to the outside of the dark blue coil.

this video of nelson shows the output  coil being on one side. not the middle.
Re: idea's
« Reply #39,  »
first create te dielectric vortex ring.
build a bifilarcoil with a dielectric between the windings (2 unifilar coil series connected with dielectric between them.

second... a hv pulse at resonant frequency.
it needs to be high voltage to bridge the distance between the coils (generates a vortex ring in the dielectric
epoxy resin as dielectric medium
« Reply #40,  »
how does a toroid react with a vortex?

water could show this.
a bit tricky...

first create a toroid ring vortex bubble ring (ahh again a proper name)

then let it rise
then start rotating the water so a vortex appears.

it should suck the vortex ring down.

the interaction between the ring and the vortex could make the ring stable at a set height in the water.

man this would be a piece of art

Posted: June 4th, 2017, 01:03 PM

to make a bifilar coil from two stacked unifilar pancake coils, a good dielectric is needed.
I wondered about a material.
I found epoxy is perfect. it has a 500v per mm dielectric strength and around 6 dielectric constant.

epoxy is available as 2 components resin. it can be poured and then it hards out.
a pancake is placed in a form and the epoxy resin is poured in (layers is better else the time to harden is long) then when then proper distance is reached the last layer is poured and the second unifilar coil is placed on top /in the resin.

the coil should be able to be series connected.

the coils should have a phi ratio hole and the distance between the stacked unifilar coils should be   the same as the radius of the hole.

the diectric field between the 2 series connected unifilar coil will form in the epoxy. 

this forms a bifilar coil all together.

the dielectric field in the epoxy can now be influenced by a magnetic field (vortex) via one of the holes (place a bifilar coil with no hole parallel to one of the unifilar coils).
pumping longitudinal wave front
« Reply #41,  »
Last night I woke up and had a idea.
at resonant frequency the bifilar pancake coil has a standing wave. the energy doesn't travel anymore but pulsates in unison.
Its like the hole wire length (windings) is breathing. the whole wire length could be seen like a rubber tire, where air is pumped in and out. it expands and contracts, over the whole surface area, it is even distributed. so the wave isn't traveling transverse anymore, but is now longitudinally pumping. the surface of the windings will produce on both sides (simultaneous expansion) a longitudinal wave front. this dielectric field is exiting the ether, like a repeating tsunami.  any conducting material in this field is effected by it.

A hole in the middle of the coil would influence the projection of the field.

it reminded me of this picture, with the pump into the earth. (from: Tesla wireless power theory, Electrical Experimenter Feb 1919)

Re: idea's
« Reply #42,  »
this resonance longitudinal pulsing isnt restricted to the resonating coil. it can be transferred by one wire to other conducting objects.

I have tried many times to revert this dielectric standing wave energy, to a magnetic field. but that doesn't work. because its not transverse travelling energy any more.

what does work is rectify it and store it in a capacitor. or use it as dc for lighting a LED.

If the voltage of the resonant standing wave is high enough the power of it becomes greater and can drive dc motors.
a transformer seen as bifilar step up and pulsed
« Reply #43,  »
I salvaged some old 80's medical electronics.
there is a blue tranformer in there. with 2x110V and 2x18V  7va.

now these can be used as bifilar. just hook them up in the right way. should be nice to experiment with.
create some bemf.

also 2 nice cooling elements.

A thought I had: if a tranformer is turned off it creates a voltage spike due to the collapsing magnetic field.
could we reverse this? create bemf pulses and feed them back to the transformer (together with powerfull squarewave signal).

if pulsed at the right frequency (resonant freq) the transformer could step the energy back up

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Re: idea's
« Reply #44,  »
transistors are also high spec. 2x 2n5886(200W 25A 80V 4 mhz) and 2x tip133. (10A 80W 100V 3mhz)

left on the picture is a strange transformer it has 4x3pin connections.

and some precision trim pots
that black block above it seems to be a inductor.
also some fat diodes.

I love it
ether compression
« Reply #45,  »
An old idea came backnto me again.

compression of the ether field by a rotating planar dielectric field "pushes out" the spacial magnetic vortex.

this spacial magnetic field, that is polarised and like a double vortex, when it collapses (because the dielectric planar rotation/current stops)
rotates back to into the planar (2d) field.
while doing so, its like a implosion of the magnetic field, and this creates a short but potent dielectric voltage pulse (planar rotation).

a magnetic field is spacial and it takes time to build up and collapse. just listen to a powerfull electromagnet when it is turned on. what is that sound? it takes time.

but the dielectric voltage is a planar (2d) torc field. it is not spacial, and is takes NO TIME to build up.
We can have a instant jump to 500kV
look at a spark. its fast. really fast.

but what about the 3rd field component? the longitudinal. what does it do in case of a collapsing magnetic field?

a magnetic field is like a double ringvortex. but polarised. so the ring vortexes come together on the dielectric plane in the middle (bloch wall) but are counter rotating into eachother.(?)

so... what happens to this longitudinal ring vortex component? when the magnetic field collapses?

the dielectric rotation stops. does the magnetic vortex rotation also stop? then the collapse is really like 2 ringvortices turning into eachother. rotation power is gone, but the diameter (voltage component) is still there.

Re: idea's
« Reply #46,  »
salvaged parts from the defibrillator boards.
one very peculiar tranformer looked like it took alot of heat. it has 12 pins. multiple layers with several thickness of wire. the ferrite has heat strains and fell apart into 3 pieces (should work with some glue)
but what it was for?

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ring vortex spin direction
« Reply #47,  »
I keep seeing a ring vortex and its spin direction.

a magnetic field is a toroid with a closed hole. this is made by a bifilarpancake coil with the smallest central hole.

the magnetic vortex is turning clockwise or counterclockwise.

But when we enlarge the hole in the center of the bifilarpancake coil (phi ratio). the magnetic field isnt focussed into one point.
the toroid now has a hole in it. it becomes the ring vortex.

when we see a ring toroid travel the rotation of the ring isnt clockwise or counterclockwise. its straight in and  straight out.

but what I keep seeing in my mind  is a ring vortex, that does have a spin direction that is relative clockwise or counterclockwise.

this reminds me of my phi ringtoroid i made(i posted some pictures before). and the perfect pattern it makes when 8 points are used.

a set matches their rotation angles.

but what does this mean.... is this the defenition of a longitudinal ring vortex pair? does this define the 2 different ring vortices?

I dont think it can exist om itself, but only as a pair.

a single toroid would turn straight.

whould this pair be formed around the blue center coils of nelsons setup?
Re: idea's
« Reply #48,  »
woke up this morning with a idea for generating the highvoltage dielectric back emf.
a sparkplug image it was.

the pulse signal could simply be stepped up to a high  high voltage.

last night i saw eric dollards presentation for the ham audience again.

around 10 min in he talkes about wave forms, and the tesla pulse. those look just like Nelson Rocha's spikes. Dollard said it was related to a coil grounded at one side. but i cant understand it.

the only time ive seen spikes close to that is a joule thief circuit.

those spikes.... i need them
add a capacitor between the bifilar windings
« Reply #49,  »Last edited
someone posted on youtube i should try to put a capacitor between the bifilar windings.
I thinks this is a interesting Idea.
it would extend the plate area of the 2 windings, and so increase the dielectric field, which would result in a much lower resonant frequency.

today I saw another video also showing a interesting effect. the bifilar windings are NOT bridged. not connected. so the energy tranfer is via the back emf and back mmf of the pulsed signal.

very interesting to see the led load is brightly lid. but WITHOUT ANY CURRENT from the source.

edit; wrong. the meter shows 0 but its not the correct meter to measure at this frequency.
the square wave from the source is clearly deformed. so it is loaded.
still its interesting. the wires are open, only connecting through the fields