PWM (Pulse Width Modulation)

satorizero

PWM (Pulse Width Modulation)
« on June 11th, 2011, 01:41 PM »Last edited on June 11th, 2011, 02:27 PM by satorizero
Hi :-)

Let me start this thread off by asking our friend Russ a question about his PWM


 Russ, you show the diagram of the Dave Lawton circuit on your wall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODlAUDs5n8w&feature=player_embedded#at=88) which is this:
#1) http://files.myopera.com/Lazaris/files/Lawton%20Schematics.jpg

But it shows that youve made some corrections with a marker, I was wondering what that is.... Ive read somewhere that a couple things need changing, maybe you did that? Did you use this identical schematic to build yours?

And I also have a question about this modified one:
page 7
#2) http://energialibrebcn.blogspot.es/img/stanley-meyer.pdf

AND then theres this one (which I think is the same as the one above, just has coils placed differently?):
#3) http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t167/watkykjy1/?action=view¤t=ImprovedD14Circuit.jpg&sort=ascending

So, I was wondering if #2 and #3 are different than your #1? And also would like to know if you modified the #1 schematic in your video? Thank you :-)

My secondary question is I read somewhere that a mosfet would be way better than the BUZ350... any comment?

~Russ

RE: PWM (Pulse Width Modulation)
« Reply #1, on June 13th, 2011, 05:12 AM »
Quote from satorizero on June 11th, 2011, 01:41 PM
Hi :-)

Let me start this thread off by asking our friend Russ a question about his PWM


 Russ, you show the diagram of the Dave Lawton circuit on your wall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODlAUDs5n8w&feature=player_embedded#at=88) which is this:
#1) http://files.myopera.com/Lazaris/files/Lawton%20Schematics.jpg

But it shows that youve made some corrections with a marker, I was wondering what that is.... Ive read somewhere that a couple things need changing, maybe you did that? Did you use this identical schematic to build yours?

And I also have a question about this modified one:
page 7
#2) http://energialibrebcn.blogspot.es/img/stanley-meyer.pdf

AND then theres this one (which I think is the same as the one above, just has coils placed differently?):
#3) http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t167/watkykjy1/?action=view¤t=ImprovedD14Circuit.jpg&sort=ascending

So, I was wondering if #2 and #3 are different than your #1? And also would like to know if you modified the #1 schematic in your video? Thank you :-)

My secondary question is I read somewhere that a mosfet would be way better than the BUZ350... any comment?
#1 I isolated the MOSFET/transistor so
I could use higher voltages. So the circuit is 12 v and the power from the MOSFET can be over the 12v. You see what I mean?

#2 photo is the second version of the schmatic. So use this one.

#3 this is the first version of the PWM. Use the one in the PDF in the second link you posted!

And yes MOSFET is what I'm using. I don't know the part number off hand... I'll need to look later when I get home!

Let me know any other questions and I'll get back ASAP!

Hope a answerd them all?

~Russ  

satorizero

RE: PWM (Pulse Width Modulation)
« Reply #2, on June 14th, 2011, 09:43 AM »Last edited on June 15th, 2011, 01:17 AM by satorizero
Quote from Rwg42985 on June 13th, 2011, 05:12 AM
Quote from satorizero on June 11th, 2011, 01:41 PM
Hi :-)

Let me start this thread off by asking our friend Russ a question about his PWM


 Russ, you show the diagram of the Dave Lawton circuit on your wall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODlAUDs5n8w&feature=player_embedded#at=88) which is this:
#1) http://files.myopera.com/Lazaris/files/Lawton%20Schematics.jpg

But it shows that youve made some corrections with a marker, I was wondering what that is.... Ive read somewhere that a couple things need changing, maybe you did that? Did you use this identical schematic to build yours?

And I also have a question about this modified one:
page 7
#2) http://energialibrebcn.blogspot.es/img/stanley-meyer.pdf

AND then theres this one (which I think is the same as the one above, just has coils placed differently?):
#3) http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t167/watkykjy1/?action=view¤t=ImprovedD14Circuit.jpg&sort=ascending

So, I was wondering if #2 and #3 are different than your #1? And also would like to know if you modified the #1 schematic in your video? Thank you :-)

My secondary question is I read somewhere that a mosfet would be way better than the BUZ350... any comment?
#1 I isolated the MOSFET/transistor so
I could use higher voltages. So the circuit is 12 v and the power from the MOSFET can be over the 12v. You see what I mean?

#2 photo is the second version of the schmatic. So use this one.

#3 this is the first version of the PWM. Use the one in the PDF in the second link you posted!

And yes MOSFET is what I'm using. I don't know the part number off hand... I'll need to look later when I get home!

Let me know any other questions and I'll get back ASAP!

Hope a answerd them all?

~Russ
So, well, im a little confused.... what do you mean by "isolated"... you mean you dont have one in the PWM and youre using it instead on the output coil? If so, that makes it more confusing cuz Im having enough trouble building the PWM in the first place lol I would need a more accurate schematic than trying to look at the one on your wall cuz the one on your wall shows different ins and outs and im counfused :'( sorry.... help!

satorizero

RE: PWM (Pulse Width Modulation)
« Reply #3, on June 14th, 2011, 04:12 PM »Last edited on June 14th, 2011, 04:35 PM by satorizero
Heres a couple pics of my ins and outs...

so, do i take the mosfet off the PWM and just attach the PWM to my inner coil and then attach the mosfet to the outer B coil?

im totally confused how to connect things... i thing i need a schematic or step by step instructions...

~Russ

RE: PWM (Pulse Width Modulation)
« Reply #4, on June 14th, 2011, 05:22 PM »
Quote from satorizero on June 14th, 2011, 04:12 PM
Heres a couple pics of my ins and outs...

so, do i take the mosfet off the PWM and just attach the PWM to my inner coil and then attach the mosfet to the outer B coil?

im totally confused how to connect things... i thing i need a schematic or step by step instructions...
Working on schmatic for ya! Be there tomarow! Left my flash drive at work...

~Russ

satorizero

RE: PWM (Pulse Width Modulation)
« Reply #5, on June 15th, 2011, 01:00 AM »Last edited on June 15th, 2011, 01:33 AM by satorizero
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Quote from Rwg42985 on June 14th, 2011, 05:22 PM
Quote from satorizero on June 14th, 2011, 04:12 PM
Heres a couple pics of my ins and outs...

so, do i take the mosfet off the PWM and just attach the PWM to my inner coil and then attach the mosfet to the outer B coil?

im totally confused how to connect things... i thing i need a schematic or step by step instructions...
Working on schmatic for ya! Be there tomarow! Left my flash drive at work...

~Russ
Thank u so much :) I deleted all the questions above down to my main one cuz I just re did the circuit to original specs and the caps I have are at 50 volts. But the other question on i still need help. Thank you in advance. I will wait for ur schematic :)

P.s if u just wanna attach a jpeg of that lawton diagram with your added changes and wire connections to the mosfet (&rectifier?) and coil, that'd do me fine too :]

~Russ

RE: PWM (Pulse Width Modulation)
« Reply #6, on June 15th, 2011, 03:26 AM »Last edited on June 15th, 2011, 03:44 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
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Quote from Rwg42985 on June 14th, 2011, 05:22 PM
Quote from satorizero on June 14th, 2011, 04:12 PM
Heres a couple pics of my ins and outs...

so, do i take the mosfet off the PWM and just attach the PWM to my inner coil and then attach the mosfet to the outer B coil?

im totally confused how to connect things... i thing i need a schematic or step by step instructions...
Working on schmatic for ya! Be there tomarow! Left my flash drive at work...

~Russ
Thank u so much :) I deleted all the questions above down to my main one cuz I just re did the circuit to original specs and the caps I have are at 50 volts. But the other question on i still need help. Thank you in advance. I will wait for ur schematic :)

P.s if u just wanna attach a jpeg of that lawton diagram with your added changes and wire connections to the mosfet (&rectifier?) and coil, that'd do me fine too :]
ok, so here is the basic "test box schematic"

i couls not get the link to work... so: Click here and find the file named :

"Mortified Dave Lawton circuit for coil testing with isolated voltage input for coil’s. RWGresearch.bmp "

and i speled that wrong... haha ill fix it later... having problems.

with this you can try all deferent arrangements with your coils.

so what i did to get the high voltage was:

you have 3 coils, 2 on the rodin coil (coils A & B), and one that the rodin coil is wrapped on top of (coil C).

so what you want to do is connect the coils A and B in deferent configurations so that the most out put is coming out of C.

you will need to play with tuning to get the high voltage out put. when the coils are in resonance you will see a big jump in output voltage.

in the testing file (HERE) off to the right of the text you will see the coil configuration I had when I was charging a cap. This is where I stopped testing the HVTWRC but it needs further exploration!

satorizero

RE: PWM (Pulse Width Modulation)
« Reply #7, on June 15th, 2011, 03:06 PM »
Quote from Rwg42985 on June 15th, 2011, 03:26 AM
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quote='satorizero link=msg=513 date=1308124802]
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Quote from Rwg42985 on June 14th, 2011, 05:22 PM
Quote from satorizero on June 14th, 2011, 04:12 PM
Heres a couple pics of my ins and outs...

so, do i take the mosfet off the PWM and just attach the PWM to my inner coil and then attach the mosfet to the outer B coil?

im totally confused how to connect things... i thing i need a schematic or step by step instructions...
Working on schmatic for ya! Be there tomarow! Left my flash drive at work...

~Russ
Thank u so much :) I deleted all the questions above down to my main one cuz I just re did the circuit to original specs and the caps I have are at 50 volts. But the other question on i still need help. Thank you in advance. I will wait for ur schematic :)

P.s if u just wanna attach a jpeg of that lawton diagram with your added changes and wire connections to the mosfet (&rectifier?) and coil, that'd do me fine too :]
ok, so here is the basic "test box schematic"

i couls not get the link to work... so: Click here and find the file named :

"Mortified Dave Lawton circuit for coil testing with isolated voltage input for coil’s. RWGresearch.bmp "

and i speled that wrong... haha ill fix it later... having problems.

with this you can try all deferent arrangements with your coils.

so what i did to get the high voltage was:

you have 3 coils, 2 on the rodin coil (coils A & B), and one that the rodin coil is wrapped on top of (coil C).

so what you want to do is connect the coils A and B in deferent configurations so that the most out put is coming out of C.

you will need to play with tuning to get the high voltage out put. when the coils are in resonance you will see a big jump in output voltage.

in the testing file (HERE) off to the right of the text you will see the coil configuration I had when I was charging a cap. This is where I stopped testing the HVTWRC but it needs further exploration!
Ok, thank you. So, I understand the connecting A and B to get out C, but I want to know how you did it :-P

Did you connect A and B in parallel or serial?

And, from the schematic, its easy, but Im confused on something lol
On the "0v" i put that on the negative of my power supply,  and on the "12v" I put the positive on my power supply... then you attach one end of the coil(s) to the "drain" on the Mosfet and the other end on the same 12v power supply (isolated "+" voltage input)?

p.s. I got a piezo speaker, do you know where I would connect it on the PWM to hear the frequencies? I heard somewhere on the 555.

~Russ

RE: PWM (Pulse Width Modulation)
« Reply #8, on June 19th, 2011, 08:22 AM »
Quote from satorizero on June 15th, 2011, 03:06 PM
Quote from Rwg42985 on June 15th, 2011, 03:26 AM
Quote
quote='satorizero link=msg=513 date=1308124802]
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Quote from Rwg42985 on June 14th, 2011, 05:22 PM
Quote from satorizero on June 14th, 2011, 04:12 PM
Heres a couple pics of my ins and outs...

so, do i take the mosfet off the PWM and just attach the PWM to my inner coil and then attach the mosfet to the outer B coil?

im totally confused how to connect things... i thing i need a schematic or step by step instructions...
Working on schmatic for ya! Be there tomarow! Left my flash drive at work...

~Russ
Thank u so much :) I deleted all the questions above down to my main one cuz I just re did the circuit to original specs and the caps I have are at 50 volts. But the other question on i still need help. Thank you in advance. I will wait for ur schematic :)

P.s if u just wanna attach a jpeg of that lawton diagram with your added changes and wire connections to the mosfet (&rectifier?) and coil, that'd do me fine too :]
ok, so here is the basic "test box schematic"

i couls not get the link to work... so: Click here and find the file named :

"Mortified Dave Lawton circuit for coil testing with isolated voltage input for coil’s. RWGresearch.bmp "

and i speled that wrong... haha ill fix it later... having problems.

with this you can try all deferent arrangements with your coils.

so what i did to get the high voltage was:

you have 3 coils, 2 on the rodin coil (coils A & B), and one that the rodin coil is wrapped on top of (coil C).

so what you want to do is connect the coils A and B in deferent configurations so that the most out put is coming out of C.

you will need to play with tuning to get the high voltage out put. when the coils are in resonance you will see a big jump in output voltage.

in the testing file (HERE) off to the right of the text you will see the coil configuration I had when I was charging a cap. This is where I stopped testing the HVTWRC but it needs further exploration!
Ok, thank you. So, I understand the connecting A and B to get out C, but I want to know how you did it :-P

Did you connect A and B in parallel or serial?

And, from the schematic, its easy, but Im confused on something lol
On the "0v" i put that on the negative of my power supply,  and on the "12v" I put the positive on my power supply... then you attach one end of the coil(s) to the "drain" on the Mosfet and the other end on the same 12v power supply (isolated "+" voltage input)?

p.s. I got a piezo speaker, do you know where I would connect it on the PWM to hear the frequencies? I heard somewhere on the 555.
Series I beleave ( I tryed them all, you need to play with it)

Yes that's correct.

You should be able to connect that speaker with a 100 ohm resister in series to the out put of the 555 timer.

~Russ