Starship Coil / Bicycle motors

Vaughn

Starship Coil / Bicycle motors
« on May 8th, 2011, 12:04 PM »
After seeing every video I could find on these coils. I'm wondering how easy would it be to make a bicycle motor.

I was thinking 2 coils on inner side of the bike frame with magnet in the spokes or plated magnet rim. Or 4 coils have 2 in front and 2 in back. Back wheel could be drive front wheel could be to recharge the batteries.  (possibly take out the chain all together or leave in as a self generator)

In the case of torque, Richard mentions more magnets for more torque, but would this still be the case with less coils or more coils going around the whole tire to keep a constant pull / push. I'd like to test this with other coils. Star-challis seems to show high torque the smaller it is? (baffled and amazed)

Does anyone think this can be done. I've been thinking about it for awhile. I'd like to test different coils but I need a working circuit to do that. I have a 555 timer, mosfets and transistors and hall sensors. I've tried many LED test schematics for the 555 timer and different resistor an caps, nothing I've tried gets the 555 timer blinking it just steady light and I need some help with that.

freethisone

RE: Starship Coil / Bicycle motors
« Reply #1, on May 12th, 2011, 09:51 PM »Last edited on May 13th, 2011, 10:40 AM by freethisone
found a nice over unity cirrcut for a starship coil use it to your advantage.  i would like to see you build a couple quad biffiler coils, with 4 wires over 2. enjoy. check out these diagrams.

star ship coils, and motors

Forum Administrator

RE: Starship Coil / Bicycle motors
« Reply #2, on May 13th, 2011, 10:11 AM »
Vaughn,

I think you have an excellent idea, from the amount of torque I have seen output it would work well, as well as braking to charge up the system again.  

skycollection on you tube has the most relevant video's I've seen towards a subject like this.

M

Vaughn

RE: Starship Coil / Bicycle motors
« Reply #3, on May 13th, 2011, 10:30 AM »
I've been having a lot of trouble just testing the coils I have with the circuits others have posted. I have the parts, my issue is the breadboard placement I guess. I've been playing with it for awhile testing LEDs. I've checked for current passing through the circuit, to me all seems right. But I get nothing. I'm working with Two 12V 7Ah rechargeable batteries. I can't get the 555 Timer to blink, but I can solder everything to cardboard an wire it that way and make a bedini motor work lol

I've been moving like snail as carefully as possible so I don't blow parts.

Starting to get tired of getting my ass kicked by this simple stuff. It's so easy it's hard.

dehim

RE: Starship Coil / Bicycle motors
« Reply #4, on May 14th, 2011, 05:39 AM »Last edited on May 14th, 2011, 06:06 AM by dehim
Dear Russ Gries,
I'm a huge fan of you and your creations.
because of you i am also make coils and other creations.
i would really appreciate it if you would make a 40 pointed starship coil with my tool
so here it is:

sincerely,
Dehim


oh i'm so sorry i accidently posted my reply in you thread
it won't happen again

~Russ

RE: Starship Coil / Bicycle motors
« Reply #5, on May 14th, 2011, 11:00 AM »
Quote from dehim on May 14th, 2011, 05:39 AM
Dear Russ Gries,
I'm a huge fan of you and your creations.
because of you i am also make coils and other creations.
i would really appreciate it if you would make a 40 pointed starship coil with my tool
so here it is:

sincerely,
Dehim



oh i'm so sorry i accidently posted my reply in you thread
it won't happen again
Hey! Cool man! Yeah this hole new EPG project has taken up alot of time!!! When I get a chance I will make a 40 pin! What do you think coil wil bring to the game?

Also glad to see the feed back and keep making stuff!! cool beens! ~Russ  

Mike.Powers

RE: Starship Coil / Bicycle motors
« Reply #6, on May 20th, 2011, 11:51 AM »
Hay Vaughn.
I like the coil that you are using as your photo. It's one of my designs.
Making a motor with Starship, Star-Challis, Super Starship or Star-of-Panacea coils is doable.
I would recommend using the Star-Challis coil. It can be made very small and still have a very strong mag-field. I would also recommend you make the coils bifilar. One wire for pulse, the other as a generator pick-up coil for recharging your battery or a super cap that runs a Joule Thief that recharges your battery.
If you have the gumption, you could turn your tire rim and fenders into generators as well. Neo-mags on the rim's, pick-up coils on the fenders.
Or for that mater, you could turn your rim's and fenders into motors and dump the idea of making the motor in the hub. It would have a lot more torque while still being efficent.

Peace.
Mike.

Mike.Powers

RE: Starship Coil / Bicycle motors
« Reply #7, on May 20th, 2011, 11:51 AM »
Hay Vaughn.
I like the coil that you are using as your photo. It's one of my designs.
Making a motor with Starship, Star-Challis, Super Starship or Star-of-Panacea coils is doable.
I would recommend using the Star-Challis coil. It can be made very small and still have a very strong mag-field. I would also recommend you make the coils bifilar. One wire for pulse, the other as a generator pick-up coil for recharging your battery or a super cap that runs a Joule Thief that recharges your battery.
If you have the gumption, you could turn your tire rim and fenders into generators as well. Neo-mags on the rim's, pick-up coils on the fenders.
Or for that mater, you could turn your rim's and fenders into motors and dump the idea of making the motor in the hub. It would have a lot more torque while still being efficent.

Peace.
Mike.

Vaughn

RE: Starship Coil / Bicycle motors
« Reply #8, on May 21st, 2011, 10:21 AM »
Quote from Mike.Powers on May 20th, 2011, 11:51 AM
Hay Vaughn.
I like the coil that you are using as your photo. It's one of my designs.
Making a motor with Starship, Star-Challis, Super Starship or Star-of-Panacea coils is doable.
I would recommend using the Star-Challis coil. It can be made very small and still have a very strong mag-field. I would also recommend you make the coils bifilar. One wire for pulse, the other as a generator pick-up coil for recharging your battery or a super cap that runs a Joule Thief that recharges your battery.
If you have the gumption, you could turn your tire rim and fenders into generators as well. Neo-mags on the rim's, pick-up coils on the fenders.
Or for that mater, you could turn your rim's and fenders into motors and dump the idea of making the motor in the hub. It would have a lot more torque while still being efficent.

Peace.
Mike.
Thanks mike, I really like your challis design, It does some nice things. This Challis is 75 feet of 23g and 26g wire and my fat Starship has 250 feet of two 24g wire. (I show these in my newman motor video)

These are the only two I have at the moment, I'm still learning how to make these coils into motors and chargers. I'm not very electrical savvy but I do learn quick---ish

So far I've tested the challis as a Newman and a Reed Switch motor. I charged a 200v cap to 110v in just a few moments from a 12v battery, the newman had trouble getting the cap past 60v after several minutes.  (me thinks I had a lot of waste from the spark gap)

I've recycled more wire out of monitors an PC fans, so I have 23-24g-26g wire and the really thin wire from the fans.

I did manage to get my 555 timer to blink but not pulse the coil (well it was pulsing but not right way)

I still haven't manage the hall sensor, I need help with pin placement on the breadboard. I've tried several times and have blown a few sensors so I've stopped to prevent more loss.  (Not sure where I'm making the mistake)

Hope to make more progress soon, I'll be posting vids of my projects (Hydroponic, HHO, motors) all the things I want to try with coils