Great Solar Power Generation Idea

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Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« on April 30th, 2011, 06:54 PM »Last edited on April 30th, 2011, 07:02 PM by admin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTvAL7ty53M

Check out this neat idea.  Not as revolutionary as HHO production etc, but . . .this is open source energy and I think this is a great idea :)  Especially in sunny warm climates, seems to put out a lot of power.

Have a look,   how hard would it be to build a system that would automatically point the mirrors to the most efficient angle?

Have a look builders. . .I'm planning on an off grid home within five years. . .

I'm imaginging something like an old satalite dish, and then maybe a tesla turbine for the steam to go through, automatically aimed just right to the sun with some sensors, and hooked to some kind of generator and storage system. . linked in with some solar panels and a wind turbine??




Matt

Blazer

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #1, on May 9th, 2011, 10:26 PM »
OK Matt turn in your OPEN-SOURCE-ENERGY card.  Five years from now solar and wind energy will be laughable.  Check out the Mueller device, and Ishmels car on overunity.com not to mention Russes EPG.               KEEP THE FAITH

Forum Administrator

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #2, on May 10th, 2011, 07:16 PM »
Ahahahah, I have faith, I guess I"ll stick with the new tech. . I'm just thinking along the lines of low tech I guess in comparison. . I definetly have faith~!  Especially in Russ, I feel good news coming. .

freethisone

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #3, on June 8th, 2011, 09:20 AM »Last edited on July 12th, 2011, 06:35 AM by freethisone
This is a great idea, notice how they use many small mirrors. I wanted to keep up to date and include the results i found in a market tabloid, shortly after a myth busters try to make the shield of Arkamity's An 18 year old kid took over 5000 tiny pieces of mirrors, and then glued them to a parabolic dish. The results were amazing, and could melt even concrete.

There must be a higher focus when we reflect smaller, and smaller portions of light at our target. Reflect one photon, and move it directly behind another photon. A stream of photons, or photon train, that does not  spread out as much over time, and distance from the observer.:cool:

Blazer

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #4, on July 28th, 2011, 08:52 PM »
Hi all I just wanted to relay a story I had heard that a man had installed some reflective glass windows on his house and that glass reflected the heat onto the neighbors house and melted the siding!! The siding could not have gotten a double dose of sun?  Why??

firepinto

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #5, on July 29th, 2011, 03:59 PM »
Quote from Blazer on July 28th, 2011, 08:52 PM
Hi all I just wanted to relay a story I had heard that a man had installed some reflective glass windows on his house and that glass reflected the heat onto the neighbors house and melted the siding!! The siding could not have gotten a double dose of sun?  Why??
It could be that the pane of glass was warped into a concave shape?  Then it would be like a focusing a beam of light you can cook with.

freethisone

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #6, on August 29th, 2011, 07:00 PM »Last edited on September 1st, 2011, 01:13 AM by freethisone
i would like to describe an experiment for any one to try.

you would need 2 or more lasers. one infra red, one UV blue, and one Green if possible.
the idea of certain materials can exist in a state of vacuum were energy consumes the material to full absorption. the dipole, that single pole has a spark and a discharge. we may charge them to a capacity of energy, according to its elemental properties. in the idea of light able to produce gravitational influences on surrounding matter. in this case as a carrier of vacuum energy.

the way to do these experiments. contained if possible to a reflective confinement you place a gem stone made of magnesium iron oxide and silica. this green stone is called a peridot. the experiment should be created as to introduce / project these three laser energy's on the stone. to contain any photons in response to the light sources, or lasers.
;)

 example : as a crystal, under vibrations of direct light influences of the combined laser sources. tourmaline, quartz or ruby.
 diamond is pure carbon, carbon is said to absorb energy or magnetic radiations. These crystals would charge until saturation. conducting, or ferrous materials within the stone will play a major roll in the experimental data obtained.

This theory is based on an object of certain materials, or property, that may become higher energies in the presents of 2 or more light sources of a specific order.  next you could try  a  continuous spark upon said stone and continue to reflect the photons in a chamber. The assumption is that an atmosphere would be produced around the stones, and that would contain said magnetic particles. energize these stones, as the lasers are also a fuel. there must be some ability of the gem to conduct. oxygen as an example. iron oxide. with that the energy surrounding the stone to become the higher potential, because the energy would thereby be in the outer shell, due to the conducting properties that expand atoms and stretch them into a gaseous conducting fluid.

The silicate minerals make up the largest and most important class of rock-forming minerals, constituting approximately 90 percent of the crust of the Earth. They are classified based on the structure of their silicate group. Silicate minerals all contain silicon and oxygen.

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note the last picture, and the material it is said to be made up of.

Deep Impact space mission
 
 The head-on collision of comet 9P/Tempel and the Deep Impact impactor

On 4 July 2005 at 05:52 UTC (01:52 EDT), Tempel 1 was deliberately struck by one component of the NASA Deep Impact probe, one day before perihelion. The impact was photographed by the other component of the probe, which recorded a bright spray from the impact site. The impact was also observed by earthbound and space telescopes, which recorded a brightening of several magnitudes.

The crater that formed was not visible to Deep Impact due to the cloud of dust raised by the impact, but was estimated to be between 100 and 250 meters in diameter and 30 meters deep. The probe's spectrometer instrument detected dust particles finer than human hair, and discovered the presence of silicates, carbonates, smectite, metal sulfides (like fool's gold), amorphous carbon and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons.

Light energy, and  the magnetic field is absorbed, and therebye held as a charge. until said discharge. The magnetic field adds more of a pressure. a mesure of gravity, due to its max flux, and the nature of material with ability to conduct energy.


more info below
 magnetite crystal along three axes was measured in fields up to 5000 gauss. The curves obtained are all similar in form, first convex towards the H axis, then concave, tending toward a maximum near 5000 gauss. With a longitudinal field of 5000 gauss, the digonal axis expands 30(10)-4 per cent, the trigonal axis 12(10)-4 per cent, and the tetragonal axis contracts about 4(10)-4 per cent. With an equal transverse field the percentage changes are a contraction of 44(10)-4, a contraction of 28(10)-4 and an expansion of 4(10)-4, respectively. Tests indicated that the effect perpendicular to a plane is independent of the direction of the field in that plane. No departure from cubic symmetry was established. To explain these results a model of the magnetic element in magnetite is suggested, similar to Ewing's recent model. The experiments favor the view that the rotating magnetic element is a group of non-parallel electron orbits inside the atom. Permeability of a magnetite crystal was roughly determined to vary from 1.2 to 1.38 as the field strength increased to 5000 gauss.

somthing about light and cold space, somthing about a static medium or vacume.
the ability of objects that conduct show clear evidence that light can be used as a carrier of energy.. take forinstance silicates, is it really that easy? atoms that contain oxagen are carriers. a gem stone in an ice cold bath, introduce laser energy magnetic field pressure, and a static source. the addition of salty water is were the charge will be mesured.

KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #7, on December 23rd, 2012, 07:55 AM »
http://www.theidealistrevolution.com/going-nuclear-free-germany-smashes-solar-power-world-record/

Germany’s solar power plants produced a record 22 gigawatts of energy on Friday, equivalent to the output of 20 nuclear plants. The country is already a world-leader in solar power and hopes to be free of nuclear energy by 2022.

The director of the Institute of the Renewable Energy Industry (IWR) in Muenster, northeast Germany, said the solar power delivered to the national grid on Saturday met 50 per cent of the nation’s energy quota.

“Never before anywhere has a country produced as much photovoltaic electricity. Germany came close to the 20 gigawatt (GW) mark a few times in recent weeks. But this was the first time we made it over,” Norbert Allnoch told Reuters news agency.

The German government decided to turn its back on nuclear energy last year after the Fukushima disaster and plans to be nuclear-free by 2022. Critics have rounded on the initiative, skeptical that renewable sources can meet the nation’s growing energy needs.

Jeff Nading

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #8, on December 23rd, 2012, 02:36 PM »
Quote from KevinW-dirtwill on December 23rd, 2012, 07:55 AM
http://www.theidealistrevolution.com/going-nuclear-free-germany-smashes-solar-power-world-record/

Germany’s solar power plants produced a record 22 gigawatts of energy on Friday, equivalent to the output of 20 nuclear plants. The country is already a world-leader in solar power and hopes to be free of nuclear energy by 2022.

The director of the Institute of the Renewable Energy Industry (IWR) in Muenster, northeast Germany, said the solar power delivered to the national grid on Saturday met 50 per cent of the nation’s energy quota.

“Never before anywhere has a country produced as much photovoltaic electricity. Germany came close to the 20 gigawatt (GW) mark a few times in recent weeks. But this was the first time we made it over,” Norbert Allnoch told Reuters news agency.

The German government decided to turn its back on nuclear energy last year after the Fukushima disaster and plans to be nuclear-free by 2022. Critics have rounded on the initiative, skeptical that renewable sources can meet the nation’s growing energy needs.
At least that's something. To be off grid would be even better.:D

Matt Watts

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #9, on December 23rd, 2012, 03:42 PM »Last edited on December 23rd, 2012, 03:44 PM by Matt Watts
Quote from Jeff Nading on December 23rd, 2012, 02:36 PM
At least that's something. To be off grid would be even better.:D
Yeah, like a one cubic foot box cranking out 10KW non-stop in your basement.  That would certainly change my game.  Especially if I could build another one for less than $1000.

I like what is happening in Germany, the way they have taken hold of solar power and made it work for them.  I don't like the large solar arrays or the wires and infrastructure that goes along with it though.  Some of those classic German homes with solar panels on the roof...  Yuck.  Maybe someone will come along and manufacture clear ones that still work somehow.  Even so, you still have night time power storage requirements to deal with.

Something is going to break loose before long.  Sounds like the cold fusion research is getting to a point people can start building small prototypes that actually work.  How easily it will scale is yet to be seen.

Jeff Nading

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #10, on December 23rd, 2012, 03:59 PM »

Something is going to break loose before long.  Sounds like the cold fusion research is getting to a point people can start building small prototypes that actually work.  How easily it will scale is yet to be seen.[/quote]Yes dog-one, I think it to be in the next few years. The snow ball is rolling, it's very very large now. I don't think anything or anyone can stop it, people are becoming very well aware.:D

jonardaron

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #11, on May 8th, 2013, 06:31 PM »Last edited on May 8th, 2013, 06:37 PM by jonardaron
Are you joking? Building cold fusion at home? Ever took a look at the papers to LENR/cold fusion? This will change your mind. (I know I'm a sourpuss :s, just don't want you to get fooled, NASA had to conduct research on this for decades almost and video creators make it within weeks? No, really. To create nanostructures is not that easy, is it?)

@topic:
You wished an automatic sun-following automatism? Using sun sensors? Why not using some spare solar cells for that? (It's nothing else than a sun sensor and producing electricity at same time, we use this method in space all the time once one of the other attitude control sensors like star sensors fail due to stress or radiation or whatever [remember russian Mars spacecraft Phobos grunt? Star camera failed. No backup? They apparently did not use the solar panels as alternative. Or wait, they did. I think the star camera just caused some damage to other electronics. My fault. Nevertheless solar cells are used as sun-sensors/followers all the time.])
Quote from KevinW_EnhancedLiving
The director of the Institute of the Renewable Energy Industry (IWR) in Muenster, northeast Germany, said the solar power delivered to the national grid on Saturday met 50 per cent of the nation’s energy quota.
Germany is foolish (excuse that, am a german myself so am allowed to say it?). We want to replace some nuclear plants with coal plants. But that is not told/seen. Catastrophic. Nothing bader than destroying our ozone layer. Just suicide! :(

aj, btw, Muenster isn't in the northeast, it's in the northwest. It's in the northeast of West Germany - perhaps - perhaps this article is from cold war (pre 1990) ;-)? :D
Quote from freethisone
in the idea of light able to produce gravitational influences on surrounding matter. in this case as a carrier of vacuum energy.
:D Anyone wants to go to a physics forum and post this to discuss it with scientists?
Okay, light can be influenced by huge masses (black stars as an example, see Einstein's predicted lens effect, i.e. one and the same star behind a black hungry hole showing up four times at each side because of bending of light).
But can it be bended heavily - or easily? I mean will it be easy to get energy out of it by bending (gravitational influence)? But perhaps it really is possible to somehow catch the cosmic rays (photons[= light], neutrinos, whatever) and especially harvest the energy from them?

Okay researched it and yes, of course, it is possible to harnest light momentum (EM-waves in general). Just imagine a 'light mill'.
  • One side of the blades is golden(/white), the other black.

  • Light falls onto both sides continuously (even at night).
  • The black side absorbs most of it.
  • While the white/golden side reflects most of it.
  • => Thrust in direction of the black side (because the black side has nothing to counteract the reflecting rays of the white side).
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A problem here as well as with solar sails (NASA currently wants to start a giant sail) is that thrust is limited. Especially here on earth direct thrust by momentum of hitting photons (as solar sails utilize if I'm right) is unthinkable. Whenever there is another influence on the spaceship or the 'ray to power generator' the rays will just play the minor role. Unforunately. (Or luckily, otherwise the sun would push earth more and more away to the edge of nowhere and the cold: the Cloud of Oort. :s)

Bodenji

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #12, on May 26th, 2013, 12:23 AM »
Photovoltaics are great, but they are expensive and hog up space. Why not try the Fresnel lens-magnified solar Sterling engine.

A Fresnel lens is a very powerful magnification tool and has several advantages over a normal lens. The design allows the construction of lenses of large aperture and short focal length without the mass and volume of material that would be required by a lens of conventional design. Here is a video of a Fresnel melting a padlock, and there are several other examples on youtube of what these things can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YoMjBkKOkPc
A Fresnel lens can be made much thinner than a comparable conventional lens, in some cases taking the form of a flat sheet. This concept involves a Fresnel lens exposed to direct or indirect sunlight and focused on the expansion cylinder of a sterling engine. Fresnel lenses range in price from $2.00 for the smaller, and very cheap varieties, to upwards of  $400.00, like this professional photography lens. The trick would be to design a pivoting lens mount that constantly moves with the earth's rotation and orbit to focus the sun's energy on the sterling at the correct place. The idea, of course, would be to produce more power than what is consumed tracking the position of the sun.

DanW

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #13, on May 30th, 2013, 07:33 AM »Last edited on May 30th, 2013, 07:36 AM by DanW
Hey hey Bodenji,

Yes, fresnel lenses are cheap to manufacture and hold massive capacity for concentrating sunlight, which itself is vastly interesting. The proportion of the sunrays at the edge of the atmosphere can be divided into the following components:
·         Ultraviolet radiation 9%.
·         Visible light 49%.
·         Infrared (heat-) radiation 42%.

I believe that fresnel lenses can concentrate a good percentage of the energy that makes up sunlight, more than just the visible spectrum, which photovoltaics use, siphoning off the infrared (heat) component as 'waste product' for it is detrimental to the manner in which they operate, and discarding entirely the ultraviolet component.

There are inherent issues with fresnel lens magnification, a few of which I've addressed in another thread.

I believe with every atom of my being that if we can harness the full spectrum of sunlight, in all of its glory, we would have enough potential energy to meet the whole population's essential energy needs regardless of the ridiculous numbers that our very viral existence afflicts upon this beautiful rock we call home.

I believe there is more energy deflected by our troposphere/atmosphere daily than the entire potential consumption annually of our species.

I don't believe, however, that ground based systems are going to be sufficient in capturing this energy - we've got to go atmospheric, and we've got to bring that mainly disguarded energy down to 'Ground Zero', to create useful energy in ample abundance.

This is conjecture, I'll raise my hand in admitting that fact - yet I believe that in order to flourish in a sustainable manner, we've got to find a way of harvesting this energy, the majority of which is disguarded unused, in order to move forward with any hope of longevity for our species at large.

Preachy? Yeah, sorry about that - a bottle of good vino and I'm insufferable.

Peace.


..case in point

Russell Lee

RE: Great Solar Power Generation Idea
« Reply #14, on June 19th, 2013, 11:34 AM »
This is a mini system compared to the one in California. Problem is it shuts down at night, and on cloudy days. Russ