Marine application

ken black

Marine application
« on July 10th, 2012, 10:06 AM »
Has anyone tried using a hho generator in a marine application?? I do alot of offshore fishing as a charter captain and go thru 10 to 70 gallons a day (or more). I run fuel injected 2 stroke motors (250 yamahas) and it is a computerized system. My question is how does HHO react when the motors are under continues load? can changes be made to the o2 sensor on the motors to handle the HHO? I am running 2 stroke that oil is pre mixed before it is injected into the chamber at 50-1 and i can change the mix ratio (I think) if need to for the reduce fuel consumption (heavier oil to fuel mix for the HHO). I have searched the web and i found sites that make them for marine apps but no one has givin any numbers. and i know that the charging system on outboards isnt that strong and i will be adding extra deep cycle batteries to the boat to assist in the HHO production. any comments would be greatly appreciated

Thanks,
  Ken

Muxar

RE: Marine application
« Reply #1, on July 12th, 2012, 12:43 AM »
Quote from ken black on July 10th, 2012, 10:06 AM
Has anyone tried using a hho generator in a marine application?? I do alot of offshore fishing as a charter captain and go thru 10 to 70 gallons a day (or more). I run fuel injected 2 stroke motors (250 yamahas) and it is a computerized system. My question is how does HHO react when the motors are under continues load? can changes be made to the o2 sensor on the motors to handle the HHO? I am running 2 stroke that oil is pre mixed before it is injected into the chamber at 50-1 and i can change the mix ratio (I think) if need to for the reduce fuel consumption (heavier oil to fuel mix for the HHO). I have searched the web and i found sites that make them for marine apps but no one has givin any numbers. and i know that the charging system on outboards isnt that strong and i will be adding extra deep cycle batteries to the boat to assist in the HHO production. any comments would be greatly appreciated

Thanks,
  Ken
Hello Ken,
I have tested a 2lpm dry cell on my audi 1.9 tdi engine and i found 25% gains. i didn´t change anything in the o2 sensor.
 I guess with a constant load would work better because the cell is producing constantly the same amount  of hho. they say that works better in gasoline engines and even better in gas(ethanol or whatever) engines....
The only thing i can tell you as a mechanic, is that regulating the carburator in a 2 stroke engine is dangerous because if you put to little gasoline you can overheat the head of the piston and make a hole on it(i have done it ). The gasoline that enters in the cilinder cools down the piston, and in my case, i didn´t notice any changes in the temp meter.
So i´m not telling not to do it,just be carefull with it, and if you do it please share with us the results
Maybe you could try just putting hho and not touching anything else. i think that o2 sensor needs to be manipulated in engines with lambda sensor in the exhaust.
-Muxar-

ken black

RE: Marine application
« Reply #2, on July 12th, 2012, 08:27 PM »
Quote from Muxar on July 12th, 2012, 12:43 AM
Quote from ken black on July 10th, 2012, 10:06 AM
Has anyone tried using a hho generator in a marine application?? I do alot of offshore fishing as a charter captain and go thru 10 to 70 gallons a day (or more). I run fuel injected 2 stroke motors (250 yamahas) and it is a computerized system. My question is how does HHO react when the motors are under continues load? can changes be made to the o2 sensor on the motors to handle the HHO? I am running 2 stroke that oil is pre mixed before it is injected into the chamber at 50-1 and i can change the mix ratio (I think) if need to for the reduce fuel consumption (heavier oil to fuel mix for the HHO). I have searched the web and i found sites that make them for marine apps but no one has givin any numbers. and i know that the charging system on outboards isnt that strong and i will be adding extra deep cycle batteries to the boat to assist in the HHO production. any comments would be greatly appreciated

Thanks,
  Ken
Hello Ken,
I have tested a 2lpm dry cell on my audi 1.9 tdi engine and i found 25% gains. i didn´t change anything in the o2 sensor.
 I guess with a constant load would work better because the cell is producing constantly the same amount  of hho. they say that works better in gasoline engines and even better in gas(ethanol or whatever) engines....
The only thing i can tell you as a mechanic, is that regulating the carburator in a 2 stroke engine is dangerous because if you put to little gasoline you can overheat the head of the piston and make a hole on it(i have done it ). The gasoline that enters in the cilinder cools down the piston, and in my case, i didn´t notice any changes in the temp meter.
So i´m not telling not to do it,just be carefull with it, and if you do it please share with us the results
Maybe you could try just putting hho and not touching anything else. i think that o2 sensor needs to be manipulated in engines with lambda sensor in the exhaust.
-Muxar-
these are fuel injected motors, and under load im talking about the outboards themselves. when the motors are at cruise at 4000 rpm's and the boat is doing 45 knots in a 8500 pound catamaran racing hull. I know that there will have to be some adjustments to the O2 sensor. what kind of engine did you try this on????

Thanks for your feedback
  Ken

Muxar

RE: Marine application
« Reply #3, on July 12th, 2012, 11:14 PM »


these are fuel injected motors, and under load im talking about the outboards themselves. when the motors are at cruise at 4000 rpm's and the boat is doing 45 knots in a 8500 pound catamaran racing hull. I know that there will have to be some adjustments to the O2 sensor. what kind of engine did you try this on????

Thanks for your feedback
  Ken[/quote]Hello everyone,
I tried in an audi engine. 1.9 tdi 130cv year:2002 engine model: ASZ
Anyway, you can´t put the ammount of hho you want . What is the size of your engine?....well i guess that if you put less gasoline you can put more hho....but without cutting the gasoline  you can´t put more than 2lpm for a 2 liter engine.
Thanks.
-Muxar-

Jean-Alexandre

RE: Marine application
« Reply #4, on July 14th, 2012, 07:04 AM »
Quote from Muxar on July 12th, 2012, 11:14 PM
these are fuel injected motors, and under load im talking about the outboards themselves. when the motors are at cruise at 4000 rpm's and the boat is doing 45 knots in a 8500 pound catamaran racing hull. I know that there will have to be some adjustments to the O2 sensor. what kind of engine did you try this on????

Thanks for your feedback
  Ken
Hello everyone,
I tried in an audi engine. 1.9 tdi 130cv year:2002 engine model: ASZ
Anyway, you can´t put the ammount of hho you want . What is the size of your engine?....well i guess that if you put less gasoline you can put more hho....but without cutting the gasoline  you can´t put more than 2lpm for a 2 liter engine.
Thanks.
-Muxar-[/quote]hello
In france in bretagne they are applicaton in marine


http://luxury-sea.fr/

Jean-Alexandre