https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKm09vJQdqQ

Quite interesting yeah?

i found this relavent to the EPG...

"rare energy Video by international film maker with jim sabora on noble gas drivers system contration exspansion known also as the ppap engine a sunny day in california a interesting concept but with engineering problems this video was private but leaked out onto google dr robert koonzt brought it to my attention 98 of free energy claims are fantasyies or scams or get rich ideas about two percent have merits"

What do you think???

~Russ

Quote from Rwg42985 on April 29th, 2011, 12:52 PM

98 of free energy claims are fantasyies or scams or get rich ideas about two percent have merits"

What do you think???

~Russ

its quite a collection of stuff and although it all seems a little too amazing to be real consider the costs of machining those parts up alone -not to menion all the other electrical setups and plexiglas -hardly think he would have been getting rich quick!

today was the first time i have ever seen this motor concept and its amazing to thing that the forces involved were not so much gas expansion but a linear force.

the gas processing equipment was the most amazing part for me given what we are working on.
iron filings and gas in a high frequency field?
sounds like the makings of magnetic gas to me.

also quite amazing watching the flashes of plasma and the little floating ball lightning looking after glows

thanx for posting!!!

Hi all  Very interesting I would have liked to see the engine run normally in the dark to see the energies coming into or out of without the compression light exposure.  Russ got any vacuum pumps or an old refridgerator compressor?  Maybe pulse the plasma and a large check valve you may not need to sync the coils.  Do you think he used the tesla coil to drive his mag coils (around the cylinders)?  Maybe the the gas formed a new compound under compression and released energies of light and whatever then to stabize back to nobel gases they drew energies in the form of light or whatever.  I do think they would have a hard time containing the gases over a period of time.  If I had an engine running with no fuels as claimed it would have been running 24/7. I think I will look at some of Maxwells stuff.  Great video!!

That is probably the coolest engine I've ever seen!  The gas processing equipment looked like something straight out of a mad scientist lab.  As for the gasses lasting 10 years, it is the piston rings that will determine that.  He said they were Teflon rings, which seem like they have an extremely powerful force to compete with.  Once they start to leak its all over, time for a rebuild.  
To me the more important part is the 300 amps he just throws away!  That is energy output that could be had with out mechanical issues.  It looks like we all need some of that special gas. :-)

-firepinto


Quite interesting yeah?

i found this relavent to the EPG...

"rare energy Video by international film maker with jim sabora on noble gas drivers system contration exspansion known also as the ppap engine a sunny day in california a interesting concept but with engineering problems this video was private but leaked out onto google dr robert koonzt brought it to my attention 98 of free energy claims are fantasyies or scams or get rich ideas about two percent have merits"

What do you think???

~Russ[/quote]

Quote from Rwg42985 on April 29th, 2011, 12:52 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKm09vJQdqQ

Quite interesting yeah?

i found this relavent to the EPG...

"rare energy Video by international film maker with jim sabora on noble gas drivers system contration exspansion known also as the ppap engine a sunny day in california a interesting concept but with engineering problems this video was private but leaked out onto google dr robert koonzt brought it to my attention 98 of free energy claims are fantasyies or scams or get rich ideas about two percent have merits"

What do you think???

~Russ

Yes quite interesting to say the least. Another thing that is interesting is Papp and Meyer are both dead. Is it because there inventions were a threat to some very greedy people (oil trolls) or did the systems they built kill them? I have to believe that this extreme levels of energy being supposedly produced using intense plasma energy could be releasing some serious radiation. Papp died of colon cancer and Meyers of mysterious food poisoning sound a little wierd to me. Anyway stay safe since the two people who have invented these EPG system are now dead, you might want to take some serious extra precaution. We are in uncharted territories and we are not sure exactly what it is you/we are dealing with here. Do you have anything to measure radiotion levels before you fire this thing up?

Here is interesting link to a person Ken Rauen claims to know Jimmy personally. He now works or did work for a company that supposedly now owns the Papp patents as well, near me, in Palo Alto, CA and Jimmy Sabori who lives even closer to me here supposedly in San Jose, Ca. I was thinking about looking him up.

Well anyway, this Ken Rauen guy who has comments at the bottom of the link I sent you is quite condescending towards Jimmy Sabori accusing him of being a fraud and riding on the coat tails of Papp. But what is funny is Ken seems to be riding on the coat tails of not only Papp but Jimmy as well. Since Jimmy owned 49% of the invention technology when Papp died. So how this company called Clean Energy Inc. in Palo Alto now owns the technology makes no sense to me unless Jimmy sold the technology to Clean Energy Inc or Papp's Estate sold the technology to them. I was under the understanding the Papp took all the information to the grave with him so the only other person to know the technology would have to be Jimmy. So Jimmy must have sold the patents and technology to Clean Energy Inc unless they stole it. Anyway here is the link.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Academy:Video_of_Jimmy_Sabori's_Papp_Engine_Variants

enjoy!

Scott

Quote from HHOstar on May 7th, 2011, 09:25 PM

Quote from Rwg42985 on April 29th, 2011, 12:52 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKm09vJQdqQ

Quite interesting yeah?

i found this relavent to the EPG...

"rare energy Video by international film maker with jim sabora on noble gas drivers system contration exspansion known also as the ppap engine a sunny day in california a interesting concept but with engineering problems this video was private but leaked out onto google dr robert koonzt brought it to my attention 98 of free energy claims are fantasyies or scams or get rich ideas about two percent have merits"

What do you think???

~Russ

Yes quite interesting to say the least. Another thing that is interesting is Papp and Meyer are both dead. Is it because there inventions were a threat to some very greedy people (oil trolls) or did the systems they built kill them? I have to believe that this extreme levels of energy being supposedly produced using intense plasma energy could be releasing some serious radiation. Papp died of colon cancer and Meyers of mysterious food poisoning sound a little wierd to me. Anyway stay safe since the two people who have invented these EPG system are now dead, you might want to take some serious extra precaution. We are in uncharted territories and we are not sure exactly what it is you/we are dealing with here. Do you have anything to measure radiotion levels before you fire this thing up?

Here is interesting link to a person Ken Rauen claims to know Jimmy personally. He now works or did work for a company that supposedly now owns the Papp patents as well, near me, in Palo Alto, CA and Jimmy Sabori who lives even closer to me here supposedly in San Jose, Ca. I was thinking about looking him up.

Well anyway, this Ken Rauen guy who has comments at the bottom of the link I sent you is quite condescending towards Jimmy Sabori accusing him of being a fraud and riding on the coat tails of Papp. But what is funny is Ken seems to be riding on the coat tails of not only Papp but Jimmy as well. Since Jimmy owned 49% of the invention technology when Papp died. So how this company called Clean Energy Inc. in Palo Alto now owns the technology makes no sense to me unless Jimmy sold the technology to Clean Energy Inc or Papp's Estate sold the technology to them. I was under the understanding the Papp took all the information to the grave with him so the only other person to know the technology would have to be Jimmy. So Jimmy must have sold the patents and technology to Clean Energy Inc unless they stole it. Anyway here is the link.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Academy:Video_of_Jimmy_Sabori's_Papp_Engine_Variants

enjoy!

Scott

The little boy walks down the hall of souls toward the light and God appears. The little boy sees soles entering two doors, one on his left and one on his right. The little boy asks God which door is the bathroom? God replies the door with the light shining through it. The little boy asks God why doesn’t anyone leave the bathroom? God says because they don’t want to. The little boy then asks why doesn’t anyone come out of the other door that is dark and God replies because they can’t.

through me from God,

S.A.W

ps. read the above link provided and focus on the reply comments bottom comments section about the nucleur fusion and radiation output. I am looking seriously into this from a friend from the laser industry.