Papp & Meyers ideas combined

oldsk8rj

Papp & Meyers ideas combined
« on June 12th, 2012, 08:22 PM »
ideas on how difficult to find pressure rated aluminum tube is?
source of aluminum pressure tube, copper, magnets & plasma emitters?
tracking stuff down since the technology all works & is viable.
sealed plasma cylinder, aluminum (non-magnetic because the piston is magnetic)
plasma arc in cylinder, magnetic piston & arc drives transformer windings wrapped around cylinder.
combines Josef Papp & Stan Meyers ideas.
use Tesla type transformer, then trigger plasma arc inside the transformer coil with the emf generated.
should induce higher output than expected.
"lightning in a bottle" seems to step up the current & voltage simultaneously.
dudes were genius', but missed that plasma trapped would expand plus boost emf power too.
with plasma cutting, gas mig / tig, gas pressure during plasma phase is high plus carries both voltage & current.
Papp & Meyers ideas each used plasma to generate power, just not in a closed cylinder described this way with a transformer wound around the cylinder itself.
tracking down parts & building a piston with krytron magnets for a small test engine.
figured y'all would enjoy, as it's a simple engine mechanism.
just a sealed chamber with arc gas in it.
arc emitter where the head would be & electrode side on the piston surface.
arc pressurizes gas, transmits flux to coil.
magnet & plasma arc both push flux into the transformer wrapped around the cylinder.
no moving valves, just the plasma arc & magnetic pulse at TDC that pushes the piston down.

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FloatyBoaty

RE: Papp & Meyers ideas combined
« Reply #1, on June 13th, 2012, 08:04 AM »
Interesting idea.  Seems like it could work.

Makes me think of a sterling engine.  Is there any relation?

oldsk8rj

RE: Papp & Meyers ideas combined
« Reply #2, on June 13th, 2012, 09:10 AM »
Quote from FloatyBoaty on June 13th, 2012, 08:04 AM
Interesting idea.  Seems like it could work.

Makes me think of a sterling engine.  Is there any relation?
Stirling is a thermo-dynamic action.
this is a plasma dynamic as plasma discharge inside a coil induces more emf.

FloatyBoaty

RE: Papp & Meyers ideas combined
« Reply #3, on June 13th, 2012, 09:59 AM »
Quote from oldsk8rj on June 13th, 2012, 09:10 AM
Quote from FloatyBoaty on June 13th, 2012, 08:04 AM
Interesting idea.  Seems like it could work.

Makes me think of a sterling engine.  Is there any relation?
Stirling is a thermo-dynamic action.
this is a plasma dynamic as plasma discharge inside a coil induces more emf.
I'm just thinking in terms of expansion/contraction of the gasses, but it seems this is using the em fields to the same extent.

oldsk8rj

RE: Papp & Meyers ideas combined
« Reply #4, on June 13th, 2012, 09:21 PM »Last edited on June 13th, 2012, 09:22 PM by oldsk8rj
Quote from FloatyBoaty on June 13th, 2012, 09:59 AM
I'm just thinking in terms of expansion/contraction of the gasses, but it seems this is using the em fields to the same extent.
Stirling is exo-thermically driven.
not sure what principle defines this plasma concept :huh:

FloatyBoaty

RE: Papp & Meyers ideas combined
« Reply #5, on June 13th, 2012, 09:31 PM »
Quote from oldsk8rj on June 13th, 2012, 09:21 PM
Quote from FloatyBoaty on June 13th, 2012, 09:59 AM
I'm just thinking in terms of expansion/contraction of the gasses, but it seems this is using the em fields to the same extent.
Stirling is exo-thermically driven.
not sure what principle defines this plasma concept :huh:
It's a great idea, I'd like to see this work.  :)