This has a lot to do with HHO.

It is my understanding that the way a car alternator is wound, 3 phase, that there is 3 leads, 1 neutral and two 7 volt, (approx.), A/C leads. This of course is converted to D/C.

Now considering that A/C step-up transformers are a breeze, it would only be logical to tap into it. It's been a while since I messed with electronics, and for the sake of simplifying this, let's say this we tap into this A/C voltage from the alternator and apply it to a microwave transformer, using 120 volts, the transformer puts out 2000 volts. So using 7 volts in the same transformer should produce 116-117 volts. I have no idea of amperage. Now 14 volts A/C would bring the voltage up to about 230.

I could be wrong here, but if I am not, I can't see that it would take to much effort for an alternator manufacturer to add an A/C clip to their alternators.

Any and all input is greatly appreciated.

Quote from Robert Twiss on June 1st, 2012, 12:42 PM

This has a lot to do with HHO.

It is my understanding that the way a car alternator is wound, 3 phase, that there is 3 leads, 1 neutral and two 7 volt, (approx.), A/C leads. This of course is converted to D/C.

Now considering that A/C step-up transformers are a breeze, it would only be logical to tap into it. It's been a while since I messed with electronics, and for the sake of simplifying this, let's say this we tap into this A/C voltage from the alternator and apply it to a microwave transformer, using 120 volts, the transformer puts out 2000 volts. So using 7 volts in the same transformer should produce 116-117 volts. I have no idea of amperage. Now 14 volts A/C would bring the voltage up to about 230.

I could be wrong here, but if I am not, I can't see that it would take to much effort for an alternator manufacturer to add an A/C clip to their alternators.

Any and all input is greatly appreciated.

you will need to just think about the amperage's...

Hello Robert,you probally know this already so for the benifit of people reading who may be uncerting about it here goes. An alternator in a car is a smaller version of the alternator for generating power eg a mobile generator the difference is the car alternator has bridge rectification to get dc voltage from the ac output this is then regulated to give a constant output of 14v (depending on the regulator used)  at any RPM once your charging light goes out in your dashboard. now on a mobile generator the ac output is regulated buy controlling the RPM of the engine the voltage reduces and increases with reductions and increases in the RPMs so a mobile generator has a fixed RPM for a fixed ac voltage. so if you wanted an additional 14v ac ouput terminal you would require some form of ac regulation to allow for the changes in the cars RPM there is alot of info on the web about voltage regulations. AC VOLTAGE BE CAREFULL

Hi,
off the top of my head from the alternators ive stripped down, the regulator controls a voltage to the windings to keep a voltage output required to what amps are drawn.....to take ac take a feed before the diodes/regulator then as you rev the engine up/down and add or remove load ie headlights do a measurement of how any of those may affect the ac tap you have taken.

Quote from wfchobby on June 2nd, 2012, 06:33 AM

Hi,
off the top of my head from the alternators ive stripped down, the regulator controls a voltage to the windings to keep a voltage output required to what amps are drawn.....to take ac take a feed before the diodes/regulator then as you rev the engine up/down and add or remove load ie headlights do a measurement of how any of those may affect the ac tap you have taken.

I'm considering an AC tap to power an HHO cell.
AC voltage is easy to step up and then of course can be converted back to DC but at a much higher voltage for the HHO cell.
 This is probably the best video explaining an alternator I've seen. Very detailed in layman's terms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqdrkZu50Vw

This is a link to a blog you may find interesting http://blog.waterforfuel.com/page/2.aspx some of the pictures on the blog is how stan had modified a alternator this is one of the circuits http://www.overunity.com/5805/hho-cell-stan-meyer-design/dlattach/attach/99769/image// you will find his work on this with a bit of digging someone might post  better links for you

Quote from TeaJunky on June 2nd, 2012, 08:23 AM

This is a link to a blog you may find interesting http://blog.waterforfuel.com/page/2.aspx some of the pictures on the blog is how stan had modified a alternator this is one of the circuits http://www.overunity.com/5805/hho-cell-stan-meyer-design/dlattach/attach/99769/image// you will find his work on this with a bit of digging someone might post  better links for you

Very interesting alternator.

This is where the AC comes from in the alternator.
I guess I'm exploring the easiest explotation of the alternators 6-7 volt AC ability.
It would be too easy to connect terminals and add an external plug.

This AC voltage can then easily be stepped up to an optimum voltage for an HHO generator. High Volts/Low Amps right?

I realize the Myers alternator was "highly" modified.
I'm thinking "redneck" simple.
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 when you use a step up transformer High Volts/ Low Amps? correct

Quote from Robert Twiss on June 2nd, 2012, 09:50 AM

This is where the AC comes from in the alternator.
I guess I'm exploring the easiest explotation of the alternators 6-7 volt AC ability.
It would be too easy to connect terminals and add an external plug.

This AC voltage can then easily be stepped up to an optimum voltage for an HHO generator. High Volts/Low Amps right?

I realize the Myers alternator was "highly" modified.
I'm thinking "redneck" simple.

Yes higher voltage and lower amps AC
(ohms law V=IR  where V = voltage I = current and R = resistance which in this case is the resistance of either the primary winding for one caculation or the secoundry winding for the other calculation the ratio is the number of turns on the primary as to the number of turns on the secoundary  a step up transformer output is a i know the answer is a bit long winded but it may help others)