Well, yeah. Resonance is the key.
A joule thief will oscillate and is a good idea to
Play with, but the problem is, we need th circuit to be in resonance with it's self... Not just oscillate, but resonate!
Play with it! It's a good idea! Low input and if you hit something just right! Bam those spoons will be cooking! :)
~Russ
Random Idea's While Thinking of HHO
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RE: Random Idea's While Thinking of HHO
« Reply #26, on May 2nd, 2011, 09:40 AM »
It should be now yes, give it a shot hit reply, and after the area where the post is possible, there is an attatchment section, apparently IE9 is having trouble with it however.
Check these guys out, they seem to have the resonance thing going on for them. . .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py8QYt54EpE
Check these guys out, they seem to have the resonance thing going on for them. . .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py8QYt54EpE
It should be now yes, give it a shot hit reply, and after the area where the post is possible, there is an attatchment section, apparently IE9 is having trouble with it however.
Check these guys out, they seem to have the resonance thing going on for them. . .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py8QYt54EpE
[attachment=26]I figured I would just zip and send this time. I'm scaling up the design a bit. I have some stainless sheet for electrodes. With the extra capacitance, I need to build larger inductors in order to get it tuned. I'm going to use variable inductors on both sides of the capacitor.
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RE: Random Idea's While Thinking of HHO
« Reply #29, on May 3rd, 2011, 10:36 PM »
I will add the .mov file type as well. Good job on noticing a .zip works though :)
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I'm having a hell of a time trying to balance inductors with the new set of electrodes. The inductance needs to be quite small since the capacitance is so large... Thus, I have not made much progress with the new set of electrodes yet. I've tried several inductors, but don't get enough bubble to make the system useful. I'm going to try some very small steel rods today and see what I get... Has anyone found a one-size-fits-all type of inductor solution for the Stan Meyer system? I saw a youtube vid where someone used a bifilar for both inductors, the negative of which was connected to nothing. It was perty interesting, but I'm not sure if it is worth the time.
I'm having a hell of a time trying to balance inductors with the new set of electrodes. The inductance needs to be quite small since the capacitance is so large... Thus, I have not made much progress with the new set of electrodes yet. I've tried several inductors, but don't get enough bubble to make the system useful. I'm going to try some very small steel rods today and see what I get... Has anyone found a one-size-fits-all type of inductor solution for the Stan Meyer system? I saw a youtube vid where someone used a bifilar for both inductors, the negative of which was connected to nothing. It was perty interesting, but I'm not sure if it is worth the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru8YQ6HUwbU
~Russ
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RE: Random Idea's While Thinking of HHO
« Reply #32, on May 8th, 2011, 05:12 PM »Last edited on May 8th, 2011, 05:24 PM by freethisone
play with this,Quote from Blaargenheimer on May 8th, 2011, 08:37 AM I'm having a hell of a time trying to balance inductors with the new set of electrodes. The inductance needs to be quite small since the capacitance is so large... Thus, I have not made much progress with the new set of electrodes yet. I've tried several inductors, but don't get enough bubble to make the system useful. I'm going to try some very small steel rods today and see what I get... Has anyone found a one-size-fits-all type of inductor solution for the Stan Meyer system? I saw a youtube vid where someone used a bifilar for both inductors, the negative of which was connected to nothing. It was perty interesting, but I'm not sure if it is worth the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru8YQ6HUwbU
~Russ
there would not be much of a need for such great capacity on the spark gap. a tesla fly back at 25 thousand volts is good, but this will not be enough for a magnetic pulse to cause dipole creation. improve the spark gap can be better with higher density on the smallest of electrodes. considered, higher density more focused spark, smaller surface area.
you dont need to miss quote information, but in the case of electric fields induction is an important factor.
static vacume.
Ampère's circuital law is now known to be a correct law of physics in a magnetostatic situation: The system is static except possibly for continuous steady currents within closed loops. In all other cases the law is incorrect unless Maxwell's correction is included.
thanks for the link. I may give that a shot. The problem is, he did not say what the ratio of turns on the L1:L2 should be... I'm going to post a vid today. I used tesla style bifilar inductors which gave me a wide band for usefulness for a single pair plate electrode. However when I try to use multiple plates, I can't seem to get much out of it. It could be the way I have them associated, and to test that I'm going to make an array of multiple single pairs... You will see what I mean when the video is uploaded.Quote from Rwg42985 on May 8th, 2011, 09:01 AM
play with this,Quote from Blaargenheimer on May 8th, 2011, 08:37 AM I'm having a hell of a time trying to balance inductors with the new set of electrodes. The inductance needs to be quite small since the capacitance is so large... Thus, I have not made much progress with the new set of electrodes yet. I've tried several inductors, but don't get enough bubble to make the system useful. I'm going to try some very small steel rods today and see what I get... Has anyone found a one-size-fits-all type of inductor solution for the Stan Meyer system? I saw a youtube vid where someone used a bifilar for both inductors, the negative of which was connected to nothing. It was perty interesting, but I'm not sure if it is worth the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru8YQ6HUwbU
~Russ
[attachment=40]The ftp would not let me connect so I'm uploading right here.
In this vid the plates on the multi-electrode set are connected in parallel. I'm going to try putting the plates in series with each other on the one I am currently building and see if that makes a dif.
In this vid the plates on the multi-electrode set are connected in parallel. I'm going to try putting the plates in series with each other on the one I am currently building and see if that makes a dif.
Don't presurise the Hho! It will explod!
Working presure is below 10-15 most don't even go over 5psi
It will self explode!
~Russ
Why is it so hard to find Stan's early patents, for exampole those from 1981?
The earliest I've found so far is from 1983, a Canadian and a European patent for a "Hydrogen Generator System",
but I've yet to come across the 1981 patents.
Feel free to fill in the blanks here.
Thanks.
The earliest I've found so far is from 1983, a Canadian and a European patent for a "Hydrogen Generator System",
but I've yet to come across the 1981 patents.
Feel free to fill in the blanks here.
Thanks.
Why is it so hard to find Stan's early patents, for exampole those from 1981?
The earliest I've found so far is from 1983, a Canadian and a European patent for a "Hydrogen Generator System",
but I've yet to come across the 1981 patents.
Feel free to fill in the blanks here.
Thanks.
Hey Lynx You can go to the USPTO website and do a quick search type in Meyer then Stanley pick inventor name and then the "and not" for the rest of the search. Hope that helpsQuote from Lynx on April 17th, 2012, 05:08 AM Why is it so hard to find Stan's early patents, for exampole those from 1981?
The earliest I've found so far is from 1983, a Canadian and a European patent for a "Hydrogen Generator System",
but I've yet to come across the 1981 patents.
Feel free to fill in the blanks here.
Thanks.
I can only find 14 patents there, but none of them shows the 1981
patent(s) of for example "Hydrogen Generator System", though they're
obviously there in both a Canadian and a European version (CA1234774A1
and EP0111573A1).
I really don't see why they wouldn't exist as US patents........?
It would be interesting to see those other patents aswell, where he first
explains the resonant action in the fuel cell cavity, just to see if there's
any other clue there to help solve the big mystery ;)
I have seen this anywhere else and I watched a YouTube video of a guy saying that he is producing 60 psi. Where did uou find this info? I ran a lot of power to my cell today 120 vdc that started off at 8 amps ac and ended at 13 amps boiling my water with in 2 minutes and I shut off cause idk the full potential of hho and I was producing a large amount of bubbles but I figure at the end much of it would have been steam. Thanks for your helpQuote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 25th, 2011, 08:20 AM Don't presurise the Hho! It will explod!
Working presure is below 10-15 most don't even go over 5psi
It will self explode!
~Russ
Thanks Blazer, appreciate it.Quote from Blazer on April 17th, 2012, 11:59 AM Hey Lynx You can go to the USPTO website and do a quick search type in Meyer then Stanley pick inventor name and then the "and not" for the rest of the search. Hope that helpsQuote from Lynx on April 17th, 2012, 05:08 AM Why is it so hard to find Stan's early patents, for exampole those from 1981?
The earliest I've found so far is from 1983, a Canadian and a European patent for a "Hydrogen Generator System",
but I've yet to come across the 1981 patents.
Feel free to fill in the blanks here.
Thanks.
I can only find 14 patents there, but none of them shows the 1981
patent(s) of for example "Hydrogen Generator System", though they're
obviously there in both a Canadian and a European version (CA1234774A1
and EP0111573A1).
I really don't see why they wouldn't exist as US patents........?
It would be interesting to see those other patents aswell, where he first
explains the resonant action in the fuel cell cavity, just to see if there's
any other clue there to help solve the big mystery ;)
http://rwgresearch.com/open-projects/stanley-meyers-wfc-tec/patents-documents/
need to add just stuff lately but not patents... there all there that i have found...
~Russ
everything i have found is here:Quote from Lynx on April 17th, 2012, 04:23 PM Thanks Blazer, appreciate it.Quote from Blazer on April 17th, 2012, 11:59 AM Hey Lynx You can go to the USPTO website and do a quick search type in Meyer then Stanley pick inventor name and then the "and not" for the rest of the search. Hope that helpsQuote from Lynx on April 17th, 2012, 05:08 AM Why is it so hard to find Stan's early patents, for exampole those from 1981?
The earliest I've found so far is from 1983, a Canadian and a European patent for a "Hydrogen Generator System",
but I've yet to come across the 1981 patents.
Feel free to fill in the blanks here.
Thanks.
I can only find 14 patents there, but none of them shows the 1981
patent(s) of for example "Hydrogen Generator System", though they're
obviously there in both a Canadian and a European version (CA1234774A1
and EP0111573A1).
I really don't see why they wouldn't exist as US patents........?
It would be interesting to see those other patents aswell, where he first
explains the resonant action in the fuel cell cavity, just to see if there's
any other clue there to help solve the big mystery ;)
http://rwgresearch.com/open-projects/stanley-meyers-wfc-tec/patents-documents/
need to add just stuff lately but not patents... there all there that i have found...
~Russ
Be careful Tray, don't want to see you in the hospital, 1/2 amp is the trick.Quote from Mrfixit on April 16th, 2012, 08:29 PM I have seen this anywhere else and I watched a YouTube video of a guy saying that he is producing 60 psi. Where did uou find this info? I ran a lot of power to my cell today 120 vdc that started off at 8 amps ac and ended at 13 amps boiling my water with in 2 minutes and I shut off cause idk the full potential of hho and I was producing a large amount of bubbles but I figure at the end much of it would have been steam. Thanks for your helpQuote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 25th, 2011, 08:20 AM Don't presurise the Hho! It will explod!
Working presure is below 10-15 most don't even go over 5psi
It will self explode!
~Russ
I understand that which is exactly why I stopped there not the route Im trying to go. But I did heat the water up pretty quickly Im going to keep trying I have a solid state relay I'm going to work at building a circuit to pulse that same voltage because before the boiling I was producing more than I have up to date. I also, got a larger sheet of stainless that I will make a larger cell with more plates to distribute the load the the technology is here and I'm just seeing more and more what we can do. Can doQuote from Jeff Nading on April 17th, 2012, 08:52 PM Be careful Tray, don't want to see you in the hospital, 1/2 amp is the trick.Quote from Mrfixit on April 16th, 2012, 08:29 PM I have seen this anywhere else and I watched a YouTube video of a guy saying that he is producing 60 psi. Where did uou find this info? I ran a lot of power to my cell today 120 vdc that started off at 8 amps ac and ended at 13 amps boiling my water with in 2 minutes and I shut off cause idk the full potential of hho and I was producing a large amount of bubbles but I figure at the end much of it would have been steam. Thanks for your helpQuote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 25th, 2011, 08:20 AM Don't presurise the Hho! It will explod!
Working presure is below 10-15 most don't even go over 5psi
It will self explode!
~Russ