This video is what sparked this idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz8wuUXWuGU

Electromagnetic Induction.
Electromagnetic energy has an effect on water molecules, especially the Hydrogen molecules.

Consider 4 (inductor) coils inside of a wet cell configured as tank circuits.
Tank circuits constantly reverse the polarity of the magnetic field in the coil.
I would imagine that 4 coils reversing polarity continuously against each other should shake up the water molecules and weaken the bond between hydrogen and oxygen molecules making electrolysis easier.

My current design consideration restricts the coil size to fit a 4"x4"x3" PVC Tee which is about 7" tall. Connecting 2 Tees and having coils in each Tee would allow the seperation of the hydrogen and oxygen but this severely hinders the length of the coils, which in turn reduces the turns in the coils, which in turn reduces inductance of a powerful magnetic field. Magnetic fields also carry current.

Now imagine having 4 (coil) cells creating fluxuating magnetic fields and currents.
Imagine 2 sets of coils whose polarities oppose each other creating magnetic chaos in the water molecules. Imagine pulsing this so the magnetic field  would seem to "throb" or pump magnetic energy into the cell.

If I design the cell for optimum magnetic inductance I could stack 3 - 4" Couplers  to get coil lengths of 16" , maybe 40 turns of 3/16" solid copper ground wire, it's used in telephone to ground at the telephone pole. I just happen to have about 50' of it. I have no clue how much magnetic energy I could get out out that.

Makes me wonder if the EPG is something like that as I wrote this.

Quote from Robert Twiss on May 18th, 2012, 08:21 PM

This video is what sparked this idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz8wuUXWuGU

Electromagnetic Induction.
Electromagnetic energy has an effect on water molecules, especially the Hydrogen molecules.

Consider 4 (inductor) coils inside of a wet cell configured as tank circuits.
Tank circuits constantly reverse the polarity of the magnetic field in the coil.
I would imagine that 4 coils reversing polarity continuously against each other should shake up the water molecules and weaken the bond between hydrogen and oxygen molecules making electrolysis easier.

My current design consideration restricts the coil size to fit a 4"x4"x3" PVC Tee which is about 7" tall. Connecting 2 Tees and having coils in each Tee would allow the seperation of the hydrogen and oxygen but this severely hinders the length of the coils, which in turn reduces the turns in the coils, which in turn reduces inductance of a powerful magnetic field. Magnetic fields also carry current.

Now imagine having 4 (coil) cells creating fluxuating magnetic fields and currents.
Imagine 2 sets of coils whose polarities oppose each other creating magnetic chaos in the water molecules. Imagine pulsing this so the magnetic field  would seem to "throb" or pump magnetic energy into the cell.

If I design the cell for optimum magnetic inductance I could stack 3 - 4" Couplers  to get coil lengths of 16" , maybe 40 turns of 3/16" solid copper ground wire, it's used in telephone to ground at the telephone pole. I just happen to have about 50' of it. I have no clue how much magnetic energy I could get out out that.

Makes me wonder if the EPG is something like that as I wrote this.

Robert keep up the good work you are doing, there are no failures, cause every-time we go backwards we learn something, so in reality we are still moving forward and when you post the info it helps us all. Thanks so much for your contributions to this important work, Jeff. :cool::D

I'm just thinking out loud Jeff.
It's been a very long time since I messed with electronics
I'm far more knowledgeable in  ACVs, (Air Cushion Vehicles or Hovercraft),
and non PV Solar.
I don't know how much I can contribute.
In the last couple of months I watched a lot of videos with the primary interest for use in autos.
I'm a very small contractor and I have to run a van, I have two, one is 5,000 lbs and the other is 9,600 lbs so fuel takes a lot of my resources.
At the very minimum, I see this as a performance enhancement that has a very minimum expense after installation.
I also see the heating and welding aspects, I'll probably be looking at the heating aspects as well.
I'm looking for something simple, Meyers is far from simple.
I got hooked on Russ' videos, that is an amazing individual, he does some crazy Poo if you can get past all the talking.
Actually, I've seen way more talking with a lot less said by many others.
I am way behind in knowlege of Stan's "contraption", I doubt I can offer much in this area.

Quote from Robert Twiss on May 19th, 2012, 01:09 PM

I'm just thinking out loud Jeff.
It's been a very long time since I messed with electronics
I'm far more knowledgeable in  ACVs, (Air Cushion Vehicles or Hovercraft),
and non PV Solar.
I don't know how much I can contribute.
In the last couple of months I watched a lot of videos with the primary interest for use in autos.
I'm a very small contractor and I have to run a van, I have two, one is 5,000 lbs and the other is 9,600 lbs so fuel takes a lot of my resources.
At the very minimum, I see this as a performance enhancement that has a very minimum expense after installation.
I also see the heating and welding aspects, I'll probably be looking at the heating aspects as well.
I'm looking for something simple, Meyers is far from simple.
I got hooked on Russ' videos, that is an amazing individual, he does some crazy Poo if you can get past all the talking.
Actually, I've seen way more talking with a lot less said by many others.
I am way behind in knowlege of Stan's "contraption", I doubt I can offer much in this area.

Good thoughts Robert, we are all looking for the same thing. Russ has everyone coming together, reverse engineering of Stan,s patents in one way or another, so you do have something to offer, your willingness to be here with us, Thanks Jeff.:cool::D:P