Nitrogen oxide(s) the missing link?
I came about this when i was studying how ozone was made, then i noticed that with the HHO research i was doing its not mentioned that much, what happens with the nitrogen in the air.
also i found it confusing wile reading what nitrogen oxide(s) they were talking about, they are often refer to as NOx and other such combinations.
here is a usefull link to help distinguish between them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_oxide
another link here concerning Ozone and nitrogen with sunlight.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/ChemistrySunlight/chemistry_sunlight3.php
so in short NOx (NO and NO2) gasses are also formed in combustion engines weather its fossil fuels or HHO. we know with stans work its stated that he reuses the exhaust gasses i think he called them non-combustible gasses.
so then it came to my attention that something we all know about its called NOS for short. that is N2O - nitrous oxide. that is the stuff they use in race cars. NOS tanks !!!! those little blue bottles that are used to get a huge boost in horse power.
here is a paragraph i copied, ( have to find the source again )
Another way in which molecular nitrogen is modified is via the discharge of lightning. The tremendous energy released by the electrical discharges in our atmosphere breaks the rather strong bonds between nitrogen atoms, causing them to react with oxygen. Note in this process, nitrogen is oxidized and oxygen is reduced.
lightning
N2 + O2 --------------> 2 NO (nitric oxide)
The nitrous oxide formed combines with oxygen to form nitrogen dioxide.
2 NO + O2 ---------------> 2NO2
Nitrogen dioxide readily dissolves in water to product nitric and nitrous acids;
2 NO2 + H2O -------> HNO3 + HNO2
These acids readily release the hydrogen forming nitrate and nitrite ions which can be readily utilized by plants and micro-organisms.
HNO3 --------> H+ + NO3- (nitrate ions)
HNO2 --------> H+ + NO2- (nitrite ions)
the last equation is of particular interest to me. im not a chemist but does that mean it releases a hydrogen ion ?
some people use electrolizer in thier HHO generator tanks that help produce more HHO. Stan does mention somewhere in his book about DISSOLVED GASSES. most of the time hes very unspecific about gasses calling them Non-combustible gasses, ambiant air gasses, ionized gassed . and in my mind its much easier and more accurate to just write N2 or No2 or NO things like that. why is that hmmm?
conclusion:
So i guess what im trying to say is to use the nitrous oxide(s) gasses group to actually enhance the combustion of HHO, much like we use N2o with fossil fuels ( the nos tanks).
and perhaps even use the gasses to somehow enhance the production of HHO when they are converted and dissolved in water.. and then perhaps use water mist to slow the combustion rate ?
there are many different routs the exhaust gasses NOx ( NO or and NO2) can take, exhaust> gas gun > mixing with air> bubbled back to hho tank....or other combinations.
im not a chemist but when you start plucking off electrons, ionizing gasses getting some ozone, who knows what kind of reaction take place.
easy experiment would be, grab a nos tank and hook that baby up and inject it along with HHO from a standard hho cell and see what happens.
peace guys: and who cares about over unity when it costs no energy to get a gallon of water opposed to a gallon of gasoline :))
I came about this when i was studying how ozone was made, then i noticed that with the HHO research i was doing its not mentioned that much, what happens with the nitrogen in the air.
also i found it confusing wile reading what nitrogen oxide(s) they were talking about, they are often refer to as NOx and other such combinations.
here is a usefull link to help distinguish between them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_oxide
another link here concerning Ozone and nitrogen with sunlight.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/ChemistrySunlight/chemistry_sunlight3.php
so in short NOx (NO and NO2) gasses are also formed in combustion engines weather its fossil fuels or HHO. we know with stans work its stated that he reuses the exhaust gasses i think he called them non-combustible gasses.
so then it came to my attention that something we all know about its called NOS for short. that is N2O - nitrous oxide. that is the stuff they use in race cars. NOS tanks !!!! those little blue bottles that are used to get a huge boost in horse power.
here is a paragraph i copied, ( have to find the source again )
Another way in which molecular nitrogen is modified is via the discharge of lightning. The tremendous energy released by the electrical discharges in our atmosphere breaks the rather strong bonds between nitrogen atoms, causing them to react with oxygen. Note in this process, nitrogen is oxidized and oxygen is reduced.
lightning
N2 + O2 --------------> 2 NO (nitric oxide)
The nitrous oxide formed combines with oxygen to form nitrogen dioxide.
2 NO + O2 ---------------> 2NO2
Nitrogen dioxide readily dissolves in water to product nitric and nitrous acids;
2 NO2 + H2O -------> HNO3 + HNO2
These acids readily release the hydrogen forming nitrate and nitrite ions which can be readily utilized by plants and micro-organisms.
HNO3 --------> H+ + NO3- (nitrate ions)
HNO2 --------> H+ + NO2- (nitrite ions)
the last equation is of particular interest to me. im not a chemist but does that mean it releases a hydrogen ion ?
some people use electrolizer in thier HHO generator tanks that help produce more HHO. Stan does mention somewhere in his book about DISSOLVED GASSES. most of the time hes very unspecific about gasses calling them Non-combustible gasses, ambiant air gasses, ionized gassed . and in my mind its much easier and more accurate to just write N2 or No2 or NO things like that. why is that hmmm?
conclusion:
So i guess what im trying to say is to use the nitrous oxide(s) gasses group to actually enhance the combustion of HHO, much like we use N2o with fossil fuels ( the nos tanks).
and perhaps even use the gasses to somehow enhance the production of HHO when they are converted and dissolved in water.. and then perhaps use water mist to slow the combustion rate ?
there are many different routs the exhaust gasses NOx ( NO or and NO2) can take, exhaust> gas gun > mixing with air> bubbled back to hho tank....or other combinations.
im not a chemist but when you start plucking off electrons, ionizing gasses getting some ozone, who knows what kind of reaction take place.
easy experiment would be, grab a nos tank and hook that baby up and inject it along with HHO from a standard hho cell and see what happens.
peace guys: and who cares about over unity when it costs no energy to get a gallon of water opposed to a gallon of gasoline :))