Globakast 8XA Versions
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improvements and operational Feed back on installing wiring correctly
and using.
Gerber
parts lists
Part options etc.
Common issues
Common failures
Common mistakes
We already have a 8XA ThreadeQuote from securesupplies on April 21st, 2012, 06:09 AM Globakast 8XA Versions
offer Specific
info parts designs PCB Board version ,
improvements and operational Feed back on installing wiring correctly
and using.
Gerber
parts lists
Part options etc.
Common issues
Common failures
Common mistakes
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=393&page=2
Not same as this is specifically for tony's card, to be trailedQuote from KevinW-dirtwill on April 21st, 2012, 09:57 AM We already have a 8XA ThreadeQuote from securesupplies on April 21st, 2012, 06:09 AM Globakast 8XA Versions
offer Specific
info parts designs PCB Board version ,
improvements and operational Feed back on installing wiring correctly
and using.
Gerber
parts lists
Part options etc.
Common issues
Common failures
Common mistakes
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=393&page=2
and improved with feed back and Q&A
other thread is valid
8xa card thread in progress idea it to compare develop go to next level on each
in design performance and versions.
Both need Part list and part numbers on list posted to threads.
We need to move forward now and get to next stage
as alot of work to do in many areas .
Parts List
We hope this take technology to next level ,
Please remember all complete kits parts and board can be sourced from tony
www.globalkast.com in this area. For this version.
Attached also
capacitor 1000uF (c1,c2,c3) 3pc
capacitor 330 uF c4 1pc
10 nF c5 1pc
10 nF c6 1pc
IC7 LM7805C 1pc
RS404 B1 1pc
H11D1 ok1 1PC
Resisitor 220 R5 1pc
Resisitor 220 R4 1pc
Resisitor 1k R1 1pc
Resisitor 4.7k R3 1pc
Resisitor 4.7k R2 1pc
Resisitor 10M R6 1pc
Ac in ,Resisitor 100Ohm 25watt 1pc
7404N IC5 1pc
74LS90N (IC4,IC3,IC2) 3pc
NE 555N IC1 1pc
LED 1 1pc
R7 Frequency control 3 pot 1 pc
switch connector 4 switch S1 1pc
use ful information for those wanting to make hydrogen
and catch up to next steps .
the SCR always gets problems when the amp flow thru the main path of the SCR doesn´t get zero. then it stays fired and the only pulsing at the inductors and cell is 50/60 hz. if the SCR current gets zero depends on the fact of a suitable inductor value. if that value doesn´t fit there is no AC oscillation at the cell and there is no zero volts condition in operation :-(Quote from securesupplies on April 23rd, 2012, 01:18 PM Parts List
We hope this take technology to next level ,
Please remember all complete kits parts and board can be sourced from tony
www.globalkast.com in this area. For this version.
Attached also
capacitor 1000uF (c1,c2,c3) 3pc
capacitor 330 uF c4 1pc
10 nF c5 1pc
10 nF c6 1pc
IC7 LM7805C 1pc
RS404 B1 1pc
H11D1 ok1 1PC
Resisitor 220 R5 1pc
Resisitor 220 R4 1pc
Resisitor 1k R1 1pc
Resisitor 4.7k R3 1pc
Resisitor 4.7k R2 1pc
Resisitor 10M R6 1pc
Ac in ,Resisitor 100Ohm 25watt 1pc
7404N IC5 1pc
74LS90N (IC4,IC3,IC2) 3pc
NE 555N IC1 1pc
LED 1 1pc
R7 Frequency control 3 pot 1 pc
switch connector 4 switch S1 1pc
use ful information for those wanting to make hydrogen
and catch up to next steps .
and the switching at the control pin of the SCR using a resistor is also exclusively reliable when input voltage condition is stable. i.e. a voltage input of 12.6V needs a calculated resistor value. for 25V input (i.e. variac) you need another resistor value.
so the SCR solution is a very weak soulution that can only work realible under very dedicate conditions.
-scr can manage high amps but no completely shutdown.
-powermosfet/mosfet can use replace but need bipolar signal to swith on/off(perfect square wave from pll can't power off)
-relay switch can replace too but if high frequency cant work but good on lower frequency because it completely switch off
-npn transistor can use as switch if it can manage high amps is the best one because it's not only has switching but it can amplify power
-op amp same npn transistor but more complex(i have a little knowledge about that)
-fet can use as switch too but the same problem in high amps
have many things too use but in solution i thinks
npn transistor that can manage high enough amps about 30 amps and 100V cause it has a little spike(HV spike) and fast switching 100khz
just 50 cent
thanks all
geenee
-scr can manage high amps but no completely shutdown.
-powermosfet/mosfet can use replace but need bipolar signal to swith on/off(perfect square wave from pll can't power off)
-relay switch can replace too but if high frequency cant work but good on lower frequency because it completely switch off
-npn transistor can use as switch if it can manage high amps is the best one because it's not only has switching but it can amplify power
-op amp same npn transistor but more complex(i have a little knowledge about that)
-fet can use as switch too but the same problem in high amps
have many things too use but in solution i thinks
npn transistor that can manage high enough amps about 30 amps and 100V cause it has a little spike(HV spike) and fast switching 100khz
just 50 cent
thanks all
geenee
the SCR can be replaced by a Mosfet driven by a TC 4420 and this pulsed by an optocoupler. I assume that is what geenee talks about "bipolar". TC 4420 provides a switch to GND and a switch to +VCC so that Mosfets gets sufficiently edged pulses.Quote from geenee on April 25th, 2012, 11:22 AM -scr can manage high amps but no completely shutdown.
-powermosfet/mosfet can use replace but need bipolar signal to swith on/off(perfect square wave from pll can't power off)
-relay switch can replace too but if high frequency cant work but good on lower frequency because it completely switch off
-npn transistor can use as switch if it can manage high amps is the best one because it's not only has switching but it can amplify power
-op amp same npn transistor but more complex(i have a little knowledge about that)
-fet can use as switch too but the same problem in high amps
have many things too use but in solution i thinks
npn transistor that can manage high enough amps about 30 amps and 100V cause it has a little spike(HV spike) and fast switching 100khz
just 50 cent
thanks all
geenee
adding an EEC to 8XA needs the Mosfet switch in the same place as former SCR because EEC is in parallel to the switch in the positiv path. EEC makes a major change in oscillation patterns.
also usage of measurement equippment in the circuit makes major changes to the oscillation behaviour.
I have successfully installed the whole installation.
Mosfet switch only fails connected to a Gas Processor because GP is a real capacitor without relevant electron flow. in that case the Mosfets switches but after miliseconds GP is charged and there is no more pulsing.
another problem is high voltage. for high voltage in the KV range there are no switches > 2000 V for the positive path. that makes the VIC necessary where pulsing takes place in the primary coil.
but dealing with really high voltages makes standard wire isolations fail after short time of usage.
special winding techniques, pancake bobbins, epoxy vacuum isolation and extremely high isolated fabricated wires are the way to go at that voltage range.
Meyers tech always looks easy but in detail it´s a very tricky one. Meyer needed 15 years of development for success and lots of background know how and no one can pass that development effort. think about the different ways Meyer has pulsed his WFCs and GPs. That were no alternatives but dedicated solutions for a special hardware environment. Once the hardware changed of course the pulsing circuit also changed.
so all his component values (i.e. the resistor for the SCR) were exactly calculated for ONE well known operating condition.
unfortunately we don´t know all exact operating conditions and those guys who had access to Meyer´s technology in 2008/2009 destroyed it by cutting wire connections of the whole system to"examine" built in components like the WFC and the GP. and they unfortunately failed to look at other components also relevant for Meyer technology. those pictures they made during their "examination" stayed hidden to public until 2011!
for that part of detailed examination we now are on our own :-(
my experiments have shown to me: if I do something wrong I blow up something, if I do something right I also blow up something because I have successfully solved a problem but instantaneously run into the next (unexpected) problem.
nevertheless the second kind of blow up is the better one because taking place at a higher level of problem solving.
I told you at another place in this forum that I use a specialized µC chip for timing issues. It´s much more efficient and precise than all up to now used 555 or 4046 based circuit designs because it supports finding resonance effects (there are so many different in a working circuit environment!) by using an extreme fine granulation in frequency and duty cycle and further advantages. But there is no need to go more into detail for that circuit until people have experienced that timing features of 8XA and Russic´s have shown to be insufficient for true resonance exploration.
of course this kind of trouble doesn´t pop up until the fundamental circuit design problems are solved for one.
hope that helps overcome startup problems with the circuit design.
bussi04
So could you post your design schematic's, to show us what you have come up with, I built the 8XA and as stated the scr never go's low, thanks , Jeff.
Yes, I´ll start a thread containing those components like switching circuit and EEC switch circuit. I will post a link to this thread as a response to your request.Quote from Jeff Nading on April 25th, 2012, 06:54 PM So could you post your design schematic's, to show us what you have come up with, I built the 8XA and as stated the scr never go's low, thanks , Jeff.
Please give me 2 days to finish the KiCad circuit diagram so that I can easily extract the switching components from the overall circuit.
Thanks bussi04, i'll try it out on my circuit. :DQuote from bussi04 on April 25th, 2012, 07:14 PM Yes, I´ll start a thread containing those components like switching circuit and EEC switch circuit. I will post a link to this thread as a response to your request.Quote from Jeff Nading on April 25th, 2012, 06:54 PM So could you post your design schematic's, to show us what you have come up with, I built the 8XA and as stated the scr never go's low, thanks , Jeff.
Please give me 2 days to finish the KiCad circuit diagram so that I can easily extract the switching components from the overall circuit.
Here you are: http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=469&pid=4630#pid4630.Quote from Jeff Nading on April 25th, 2012, 07:25 PM Thanks bussi04, i'll try it out on my circuit. :DQuote from bussi04 on April 25th, 2012, 07:14 PM Yes, I´ll start a thread containing those components like switching circuit and EEC switch circuit. I will post a link to this thread as a response to your request.Quote from Jeff Nading on April 25th, 2012, 06:54 PM So could you post your design schematic's, to show us what you have come up with, I built the 8XA and as stated the scr never go's low, thanks , Jeff.
Please give me 2 days to finish the KiCad circuit diagram so that I can easily extract the switching components from the overall circuit.
Enjoy!