I have a question I have noticed that if my anode is in between my cathode or two of them which would be the same as Stan's hho cell ( the anode in the center) that more bubbles come off of the anode. This actually raises a few questions is hydrogen coming off one plate and oxygen coming off of the other. Two. What about reversing the voltage to the plates voltage at a fast rate. The anode and cathode are made of the same material. Maybe reversing it at about half of the rate that you are already pulsing the voltage or maybe twice as fast. I just haven't had as much time as I would like to try any of the above I am working on my pulsing circuit now. And I do see that hho production really is all in the electronics which is what intrigues me all the more. Let me know what you think. The dc reversing is something that I keep pondering running ideas over in my head. This is exciting. This is my first thread ever so bare with me. Thank mrfixit

Quote from Mrfixit on April 10th, 2012, 08:29 PM

I have a question I have noticed that if my anode is in between my cathode or two of them which would be the same as Stan's hho cell ( the anode in the center) that more bubbles come off of the anode. This actually raises a few questions is hydrogen coming off one plate and oxygen coming off of the other. Two. What about reversing the voltage to the plates voltage at a fast rate. The anode and cathode are made of the same material. Maybe reversing it at about half of the rate that you are already pulsing the voltage or maybe twice as fast. I just haven't had as much time as I would like to try any of the above I am working on my pulsing circuit now. And I do see that hho production really is all in the electronics which is what intrigues me all the more. Let me know what you think. The dc reversing is something that I keep pondering running ideas over in my head. This is exciting. This is my first thread ever so bare with me. Thank mrfixit

welcome.

stan did reverse his polarity to create heated water but he did this really really fast. He wanted to vibrate the water to create heat. i think you want the water in the same polarity all the time. other wise you will need to flip the water around as its trying to be in one direction.

dont forget that the 2 H atoms are smaller than the 1 O atom... so you will not see the same amount of gas on each electrode.

~Russ

Very good questions :cool:, I knew you would get answers to, keep up the good work Trey. :D

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on April 11th, 2012, 01:27 AM

Quote from Mrfixit on April 10th, 2012, 08:29 PM

I have a question I have noticed that if my anode is in between my cathode or two of them which would be the same as Stan's hho cell ( the anode in the center) that more bubbles come off of the anode. This actually raises a few questions is hydrogen coming off one plate and oxygen coming off of the other. Two. What about reversing the voltage to the plates voltage at a fast rate. The anode and cathode are made of the same material. Maybe reversing it at about half of the rate that you are already pulsing the voltage or maybe twice as fast. I just haven't had as much time as I would like to try any of the above I am working on my pulsing circuit now. And I do see that hho production really is all in the electronics which is what intrigues me all the more. Let me know what you think. The dc reversing is something that I keep pondering running ideas over in my head. This is exciting. This is my first thread ever so bare with me. Thank mrfixit

welcome.

stan did reverse his polarity to create heated water but he did this really really fast. He wanted to vibrate the water to create heat. i think you want the water in the same polarity all the time. other wise you will need to flip the water around as its trying to be in one direction.

dont forget that the 2 H atoms are smaller than the 1 O atom... so you will not see the same amount of gas on each electrode.

~Russ

So then what about but a collection grid over one of the plates to collect more hydrogen and mix it more for your needs. And I thank you for help in answering my questions I think you are doing great open source is the way to go put everyone's head together so many great ideas

Hi,
if you go looking at the patent and info on the garrett carburettor about a century or so ago there is a diagram of a worm drive fed by a motor, the gear in its rotation in the diagram appears to be a mechanism to regularly do a pole change on the electrodes, and assuming its dc its an area to explore

does anyone have an exdisting circuit diagram for clocked pole switching?


he attached pic is from:
http://keelynet.com/energy/garrett.htmI was googling hho switching at resonance and found a diagram that might be of use:

freetesla.blogspot.com/2011/11/hho-switching-at-resonance.html

http://fem7.uniag.sk:8880/kexo/menu/vyvijace/dvojtran.jpg

Quote from wfchobby on April 11th, 2012, 01:09 PM

Hi,
if you go looking at the patent and info on the garrett carburettor about a century or so ago there is a diagram of a worm drive fed by a motor, the gear in its rotation in the diagram appears to be a mechanism to regularly do a pole change on the electrodes, and assuming its dc its an area to explore

does anyone have an exdisting circuit diagram for clocked pole switching?


he attached pic is from:
http://keelynet.com/energy/garrett.htm
I was googling hho switching at resonance and found a diagram that might be of use:

freetesla.blogspot.com/2011/11/hho-switching-at-resonance.html

http://fem7.uniag.sk:8880/kexo/menu/vyvijace/dvojtran.jpg

seems that figure 4 shows a battery... that's dc. or it starts as dc...
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also if fed by a worm gear the other gear will be much slower... depending on the rpm and gear reduction...

and switching polarity may be used if done slowly?  so every once in a while not like 1khz or anything... i would think if you wanted to keep the plates eroding at the same rate (if SS was not used) then switching may be necessary... otherwise one of the electrodes would erode much faster...

just some thoughts...

~Russ