Resonant Circuit or Resonant Molecules??

pha3z

Resonant Circuit or Resonant Molecules??
« on March 7th, 2012, 10:18 PM »
In some places, Stan claimed he was matching the "circuit resonance".  In other places he claimed he was causing the "molecules" to resonate.  These are different things.  When the capacitor changes capacitance (due to gas production), and thereby circuit resonance changes, the water molecules won't change their resonant frequency.

Can anyone demystify this?

I'm not seeing how the phase lock circuitry is really all that important.  I just don't get what is so special about circuit resonance.  The patent documentation doesn't call for tank circuit either.  Its always a one-way step-charge, so why is the phase lock circuit so critical?

- Jim

Sharky

RE: Resonant Circuit or Resonant Molecules??
« Reply #1, on March 8th, 2012, 03:55 AM »
Quote from pha3z on March 7th, 2012, 10:18 PM
In some places, Stan claimed he was matching the "circuit resonance".  In other places he claimed he was causing the "molecules" to resonate.  These are different things.  When the capacitor changes capacitance (due to gas production), and thereby circuit resonance changes, the water molecules won't change their resonant frequency.

Can anyone demystify this?

I'm not seeing how the phase lock circuitry is really all that important.  I just don't get what is so special about circuit resonance.  The patent documentation doesn't call for tank circuit either.  Its always a one-way step-charge, so why is the phase lock circuit so critical?

- Jim
Meyer states that the basis behind his technology is breaking the bonds of water by applying an opposite electrical force to the water molecule, 'let voltage do the work'. So to achieve that we need high voltage pulses being applied to the plates that have the water in between. There are several ways to increase voltage in a circuit and one of them is electrical resonance. At  resonance voltage goes theoretically to infinite so that is used here. The combination of L1 choke with the 'water capacitor' is actually behaving like a tank circuit. If water is breaking apart it would change the capacity of the 'water capacitor' and thus changing the resonant frequency of the tank circuit and voltage would drop causing the breakage of the bonds to stop. Thus to maintain the high voltage, electrical resonance needs to be maintained and thus the need for a PLL. Without the PLL hho would only be produced for a short period of time and then stop. This has nothing to do with resonating the water molecule, this is not what is happening with the meyer wfc. Hope this clears up your doubts a bit ...


pha3z

RE: Resonant Circuit or Resonant Molecules??
« Reply #2, on March 8th, 2012, 09:43 AM »Last edited on March 8th, 2012, 09:54 AM by pha3z
Thanks, Sharky.

But now this leads me to my other question:

How do we have a resonant circuit when Meyers also clearly stated in his patent that the pulses must always be unidirectional -- the polarity of the water capacitor never changes.

Unless the energy is actually oscillating, you can't get resonant rise.  I can't see how we're going to get any sort of resonant voltage rise in a non-oscillating circuit.  When I look at all his diagrams and read all his text, it sounds much more like what he keeps describing is an ordinary step-charging effect produced by repeated uni-directional high voltage pulses.

- Jim

Blazer

RE: Resonant Circuit or Resonant Molecules??
« Reply #3, on March 10th, 2012, 10:25 AM »Last edited on March 11th, 2012, 08:06 AM by Blazer
Quote from pha3z on March 8th, 2012, 09:43 AM
Thanks, Sharky.

But now this leads me to my other question:

How do we have a resonant circuit when Meyers also clearly stated in his patent that the pulses must always be unidirectional -- the polarity of the water capacitor never changes.

Unless the energy is actually oscillating, you can't get resonant rise.  I can't see how we're going to get any sort of resonant voltage rise in a non-oscillating circuit.  When I look at all his diagrams and read all his text, it sounds much more like what he keeps describing is an ordinary step-charging effect produced by repeated uni-directional high voltage pulses.

- Jim
Let me do a what if here.  What if the center tube is filled with salt water to act as a capacitor then fitted with some kind of diode to pulse it in the other direction?
edit: see pat # 3,980,053 "Image version"  Description of preferred embodiment