Relay oscillator

evostars

Relay oscillator
« on January 12th, 2021, 09:27 AM »
After thinking and reading about it I decided to try something that is not solid state.
I will make a relays auto oscillate like this:

https://youtu.be/WuG4nOyF99s
(without capacitor)

then the next step is this:

https://youtu.be/KIyZQLpQVqI
but again different.
the cap will be placed in series of the primary, and made series resonant. (not over the switch)

It will require tuning, and a relay that has NO diode.

this is based on Tesla's oscillator as seen in the Electric experimenter august 1919 article.
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/electrical-oscillators

Basically it is the mechanical version of what I now have solid state.

If tuned properly there will be NO spark as al the relay coil energy will pass as a single impulse through the series resonant primary.
This way, I hope I can make very high voltage impulses.

evostars

fast Relay for oscillator
« Reply #1, on January 12th, 2021, 03:31 PM »
I'll try finding a fast relays but probably I will have to construct it myself.
This is because the switch needs ti be adjustable so I can tune the frequency.

maybe use reedswitch parts in combination with a coil with a ferrite core.

It needs to be as fast as possible. and the coil probably needs to be able to handle 64V dc at least.

I don't expect much from this project, it's more of a fun build, and to show it working without spark.

coldelectric

Re: Relay oscillator
« Reply #2, on January 12th, 2021, 03:44 PM »
or Tesla will say like "I simply arranged a centrifugally rotating mercury make-and-break switch, lickety split." And I sigh. Oh just get the supercooled mercury from the... place :)

evostars

Relay oscillator into ignition coil
« Reply #3, on February 14th, 2021, 02:46 AM »
since relays work on low frequency, and car ignition coils also work on these frequencies, I will hook them up together, just like a tesla oscillator.

the trouble will be to tune the relay to the most efficient frequency, or the series cap.

I got the parts, so this should be fun (while I wait for my high voltage experiment parts)

evostars

Re: Relay oscillator
« Reply #4, on February 14th, 2021, 04:29 AM »
my new relays, opened up. I think I am able to tune the normally closed contact.

I'll hook it up to the car ignation coil and see
Fun!

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evostars

Re: Relay oscillator
« Reply #5, on February 14th, 2021, 05:08 AM »
relay oscillator is around 300 cycles per second, without step up car ignition coil
tested with 19V battery (6v+12v in series)
giving - 200V impulses

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evostars

Re: Relay oscillator
« Reply #6, on February 14th, 2021, 05:36 AM »
couldn't find a  car ignition coil, but found another step up coil.
hooked up a 1.2uF in series with the primary of it, and placed it over de relay switch like a tesla oscillator.

Totally untuned, but it works!
800V on the secondary.

yellow is commutator of relays 50V/div
blue is high voltage probe on secondary, 200V per div

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evostars

Re: Relay oscillator
« Reply #7, on February 14th, 2021, 05:42 AM »Last edited on February 14th, 2021, 05:50 AM
grounded the secondary on earth for a more stable signal.

getting 1000V on it

but whatbis the commutator doing? yellow shows a slow declining slope toward negative.
Ah! the impulse is completely gone. wait is that right?

probably the 1.2uF cap is to big and absorbs it.
very crude setup so...

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