Don's Experience With Stan's GMS and VIC Card Unit

Sharky

Don's Experience With Stan's GMS and VIC Card Unit
« on February 2nd, 2012, 03:47 PM »Last edited on February 10th, 2012, 11:34 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from adys15 on February 2nd, 2012, 02:21 PM
sharky...it is a bit  offtopic what i'm saying but i want to know what is your comment on this:on the ionizationx forum dynodon says he have had the original VIC at his home,(not with all the controls from the car)wireid up to his cell,locked up to resonance but didn;t work...how do you comment on this?
I know Don had the vic at his home and could not get it to work. I am convinced that resonance is only needed to get high voltage. The resonance is not breaking the bonds of water it is only a tool. Have you read the Electrical Polarization Process thread on this forum from Alex Petty? Try out that very simple circuit from Alex and do measurements with a scope. You will find it is very hard to achieve even a tiny bit of gas but it works, how? The pulses charge the water capacitor and orients the water molecule  then the collapse of the magnetic field from the charging coil creates a enormous spike that will break the bond, that is the EPP. I found (and Alex and Russ as well) that even the smallest problem with your cell will inhibit this to occur. Your plate distance needs to be very small and your cell needs to be completely insulated from the water otherwise the leakage will prevent it from working. So if Don had the vic but not a good cell it would not have worked. This is why we need to replicate the vic circuits, coils and cell to do all the tests and measurements we can think of. And that will result in the proof that it either works or that it will not. If we did all we could and it does not work we can all let it to rest, but if it does work we need as much people as possible replicating it to proof the results, otherwise you get the same situation as the Fleischmann and Pons cold fusion claims, nobody could replicate it and they together with their experiment got ridiculed.

The more people working on this together the bigger the change that we accomplish something. The problem is that most people want to find the big 'secret' behind this and make truckloads of money with it and will not share. I am convinced Russ and most others on this forum are not like that and i think we are committed at solving this. Stan said it himself that it was not about him:

"It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come
together to bring it in."  

Thats the way to go ....
Quote from adys15 on February 2nd, 2012, 02:21 PM
sharky...it is a bit  offtopic what i'm saying but i want to know what is your comment on this:on the ionizationx forum dynodon says he have had the original VIC at his home,(not with all the controls from the car)wireid up to his cell,locked up to resonance but didn;t work...how do you comment on this?
I know Don had the vic at his home and could not get it to work. I am convinced that resonance is only needed to get high voltage. The resonance is not breaking the bonds of water it is only a tool. Have you read the Electrical Polarization Process thread on this forum from Alex Petty? Try out that very simple circuit from Alex and do measurements with a scope. You will find it is very hard to achieve even a tiny bit of gas but it works, how? The pulses charge the water capacitor and orients the water molecule  then the collapse of the magnetic field from the charging coil creates a enormous spike that will break the bond, that is the EPP. I found (and Alex and Russ as well) that even the smallest problem with your cell will inhibit this to occur. Your plate distance needs to be very small and your cell needs to be completely insulated from the water otherwise the leakage will prevent it from working. So if Don had the vic but not a good cell it would not have worked. This is why we need to replicate the vic circuits, coils and cell to do all the tests and measurements we can think of. And that will result in the proof that it either works or that it will not. If we did all we could and it does not work we can all let it to rest, but if it does work we need as much people as possible replicating it to proof the results, otherwise you get the same situation as the Fleischmann and Pons cold fusion claims, nobody could replicate it and they together with their experiment got ridiculed.

The more people working on this together the bigger the change that we accomplish something. The problem is that most people want to find the big 'secret' behind this and make truckloads of money with it and will not share. I am convinced Russ and most others on this forum are not like that and i think we are committed at solving this. Stan said it himself that it was not about him:

"It will be either you or I, the guy down the street, who will come
together to bring it in."  

Thats the way to go ....

haxar

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #1, on February 2nd, 2012, 04:50 PM »
Quote from adys15 on February 2nd, 2012, 02:21 PM
sharky...it is a bit  offtopic what i'm saying but i want to know what is your comment on this:on the ionizationx forum dynodon says he have had the original VIC at his home,(not with all the controls from the car)wireid up to his cell,locked up to resonance but didn;t work...how do you comment on this?
Quote from Sharky on February 2nd, 2012, 03:47 PM
So if Don had the vic but not a good cell it would not have worked. This is why we need to replicate the vic circuits, coils and cell to do all the tests and measurements we can think of. And that will result in the proof that it either works or that it will not. If we did all we could and it does not work we can all let it to rest, but if it does work we need as much people as possible replicating it to proof the results, otherwise you get the same situation as the Fleischmann and Pons cold fusion claims, nobody could replicate it and they together with their experiment got ridiculed.
When Dynodon brought with him a VIC card from Stan's estate and made an attempt to revive the VIC circuity, he would have needed the Variable Pulse Frequency and Gated Pulse Frequency sub-circuit cards from the Gas Management System unit. It is not known if Dynodon replicated those sub-circuits or used a signal generator with gating in order for the VIC circuit to be complete and functional.

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #2, on February 3rd, 2012, 01:35 AM »Last edited on February 3rd, 2012, 01:43 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from haxar on February 2nd, 2012, 04:50 PM
Quote from adys15 on February 2nd, 2012, 02:21 PM
sharky...it is a bit  offtopic what i'm saying but i want to know what is your comment on this:on the ionizationx forum dynodon says he have had the original VIC at his home,(not with all the controls from the car)wireid up to his cell,locked up to resonance but didn;t work...how do you comment on this?
Quote from Sharky on February 2nd, 2012, 03:47 PM
So if Don had the vic but not a good cell it would not have worked. This is why we need to replicate the vic circuits, coils and cell to do all the tests and measurements we can think of. And that will result in the proof that it either works or that it will not. If we did all we could and it does not work we can all let it to rest, but if it does work we need as much people as possible replicating it to proof the results, otherwise you get the same situation as the Fleischmann and Pons cold fusion claims, nobody could replicate it and they together with their experiment got ridiculed.
When Dynodon brought with him a VIC card from Stan's estate and made an attempt to revive the VIC circuity, he would have needed the Variable Pulse Frequency and Gated Pulse Frequency sub-circuit cards from the Gas Management System unit. It is not known if Dynodon replicated those sub-circuits or used a signal generator with gating in order for the VIC circuit to be complete and functional.
i have talked to don on the phone and he did not have all the electronics to do the tests... he did power it up but did not have the entire GMS connected... thus no pulsing or controls. it all works together.

he sold the photos seance he was done playing with it. now he has started back again.

@ sharky , yes its not about money. its about those kids that are dying from the needs that this tech will bring.  and the people that are trying to do some real good in the world... what is money? its paper that is worthless. junk. i know money needs to be in place for the world to go around. but... right now its a controlling device... and that's not freedom. i live in the USA... we have " freedom"  but im being controlled my money. and who owns the money? ... yeah... junk...

lets get it done guys!!! replicate replicate replicate! it has got to be replicate-able...

any how. WFC standards will be set.

 right now we have everything we need to make it happen. i'm willing to do everything i can with the help of others. i can not do it by my self. and nether can you!

so. sharky. got the outer tubes in thanks to Chris, i just cut them down, and he has the Tube sets being made right now. the caps will be made soon and we will have a "standard" if we want to call it that. i mean. we all know how the tubes need to be made. that is our "standard." for the tubes any way.

josh is working on the cores for the VIC's and we will have some to test thanks to Chris. he is working hard to get the things we need to make standards...

i know you don't know Chris or josh but you will soon.

go! go! go!

god bless us all! Good Speed!
~Russ

adys15

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #3, on February 3rd, 2012, 04:19 AM »Last edited on February 4th, 2012, 01:00 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
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''i have talked to don on the phone and he did not have all the electronics to do the tests... he did power it up but did not have the entire GMS connected... thus no pulsing or controls. it all works together.''
Russ,again like haxar:
DON's statement:
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''The second time I had the GMS control system.I still had to bypass alot ot the rest of the systems to get it to work as well.Because the whole setup had to be wired into the buggy to work with the gas pedal,distributor and a few other things.Plus I didn't have the original wiring harness to hook it al up with.But this time I was able to get the gating part to work,but it still did the same as before. ""
Gas pedal circuit ,distribuitor circuit(that was for the injectors) and other things..Those things are not important...The point is the VIC didn't work,maibe stan's have had other circuits on that big GMS box that he hidden them or distroied.if not so..the whole thing is a scam,by the way ...you guys seen the buggy with the latest wfc technology started up,I seen it in the garage when the two brothers explaining the VIC cards...but then is shown just the back of the engine...in the hood may be something else...think about it...I;m not a petrol bussines man who is trying to descurage you,no,in fact i respect SM and his work.definately he is a genious, and a good man bringing this tech. on!But this doesn't mean that I don't have to be openminded and believe anything!!!

please reply I'm so curious !!!
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When Dynodon brought with him a VIC card from Stan's estate and made an attempt to revive the VIC circuity, he would have needed the Variable Pulse Frequency and Gated Pulse Frequency sub-circuit cards from the Gas Management System unit. It is not known if Dynodon replicated those sub-circuits or used a signal generator with gating in order for the VIC circuit to be complete and functional.

The VIC card is the GMS for God sake,''the Variable Pulse Frequency and Gated Pulse Frequency sub-circuit cards from the Gas Management ''are included on that VIC:
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Don's original statement from ionization:http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,2260.25.html

DON:
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""I had the VIC circuit system at my house twice.The first time was without the GMS control panel.I had to bypass parts of the systems to get the VIC cards to turn on.Then once I had them working.

""I WAS ABLE TO GET THEM LOCKED ONTO REZONANCE.But there was never any gas being produced.""(this means that the pll and scaning circuits are on the vic card ,and read on...''.....''the scanner would lock on to...'')

When looking at the scope shots of the resonance signals,it looked alot like what we all have seen with our ouw setups.The only difference was that the scanner would lock onto the third harmonic of the signal.It never locked onto the first or primary one.By this third harmonic I mean,it would lock onto a pulse train of three pulses.The first pulse would be the largest,the second would a little smaller and the third would be the smallest,and then it would keep repeating.



Now there may still have been something else that needed to be hooked up that I didn't have .Or there may have been something Stan had removed to keep it from working that we don't know about ,because he never published it to prevent anyone from replicating it.

So that's about all I can say about it.I couldn't get it to work.Too much of the system had to be put into a bypas mode,that may have kept it from working,or something was still missing that we don't know about.
Don

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #4, on February 4th, 2012, 01:07 AM »Last edited on February 4th, 2012, 01:10 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from adys15 on February 3rd, 2012, 04:19 AM
Gas pedal circuit ,distribuitor circuit(that was for the injectors) and other things..Those things are not important...The point is the VIC didn't work,maibe stan's have had other circuits on that big GMS box that he hidden them or distroied.if not so..the whole thing is a scam,by the way ...you guys seen the buggy with the latest wfc technology started up,I seen it in the garage when the two brothers explaining the VIC cards...but then is shown just the back of the engine...in the hood may be something else...think about it...I;m not a petrol bussines man who is trying to descurage you,no,in fact i respect SM and his work.definately he is a genious, and a good man bringing this tech. on!But this doesn't mean that I don't have to be openminded and believe anything!!!

please reply I'm so curious !!!
here is the problem.
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I still had to bypass alot ot the rest of the systems to get it to work as well
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Plus I didn't have the original wiring harness to hook it al up with
there is so much going on here and this was an engineering approach to the problem. that means there was a lot of stuff that is extra for adjustments ans such...

did it all work??? i cant answer that, but i can say that there are a lot of parts of the GMS that can be bypassed. and sense we are not trying to building the GMS but rather just the VIC controls... we just need to look at the entire system and make it work... unlike don we can change stuff to get it to work with out the extras.

believe or not believe... we will prove or not prove... time will tell. the basic theory works. its just details now...

keep diging. see what you find!

also, what you found was what he told me on the phone... you found more detail than i can remember but that was the jest of it.

~Russ

adys15

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #5, on February 4th, 2012, 03:36 AM »
Yesterday i send Don a PM and anked him details about what devices have had at his home,see printscreen of my mail inbox with his response

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #6, on February 7th, 2012, 02:00 AM »
Quote from adys15 on February 4th, 2012, 03:36 AM
Yesterday i send Don a PM and anked him details about what devices have had at his home,see printscreen of my mail inbox with his response
yep, cool, thanks,

a bunch of sub systems on the GMS... very easily could have over looked something.

our efforts and time here will prove or dis-prove the ideas... lots of work to do!

thanks for posting!!!!

~Russ

adys15

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #7, on February 7th, 2012, 02:37 AM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on February 7th, 2012, 02:00 AM
Quote from adys15 on February 4th, 2012, 03:36 AM
Yesterday i send Don a PM and anked him details about what devices have had at his home,see printscreen of my mail inbox with his response
yep, cool, thanks,

a bunch of sub systems on the GMS... very easily could have over looked something.

our efforts and time here will prove or dis-prove the ideas... lots of work to do!

thanks for posting!!!!

~Russ
Russ Don had the vic cards( and resonant cavity ) NOT the injectors GMS as you read in his reply..the only subsystems bypassed are  on the car and not important(accel.control,gass feedback,etc)so he had  the complete VIC sistem,and did't work(in my up page reply on this someone says about water type and stuff,is irelevant,remember stan say?:''rain water city water..etc''so ...irelevant...by the way..thanks for late response on PM but i figured out eventualy:d...
Another thing Don said you have on your site the pack data(pics,unseen vids,measurements data from vic's) that he sold to some people,where is it?
And to you have a facebook group of all on this forum?...please reply

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #8, on February 7th, 2012, 03:43 AM »Last edited on February 7th, 2012, 03:49 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from adys15 on February 7th, 2012, 02:37 AM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on February 7th, 2012, 02:00 AM
Quote from adys15 on February 4th, 2012, 03:36 AM
Yesterday i send Don a PM and anked him details about what devices have had at his home,see printscreen of my mail inbox with his response
yep, cool, thanks,

a bunch of sub systems on the GMS... very easily could have over looked something.

our efforts and time here will prove or dis-prove the ideas... lots of work to do!

thanks for posting!!!!

~Russ
Russ Don had the vic cards( and resonant cavity ) NOT the injectors GMS as you read in his reply..the only subsystems bypassed are  on the car and not important(accel.control,gass feedback,etc)so he had  the complete VIC sistem,and did't work(in my up page reply on this someone says about water type and stuff,is irelevant,remember stan say?:''rain water city water..etc''so ...irelevant...by the way..thanks for late response on PM but i figured out eventualy:d...
Another thing Don said you have on your site the pack data(pics,unseen vids,measurements data from vic's) that he sold to some people,where is it?
And to you have a facebook group of all on this forum?...please reply
there is a face book... its under the RWGresearch group. Kevin w started it. i don't have the time to face book... so i don't know anything a bout it... lol but its there!

and all the data  is here

also look over this:

http://wp.me/P1t7TI-eE

thanks,

~Russ

PS... the (accel.control,gass feedback,etc) is a big part of the system and if its not bypassed correctly... it wont work... Don is a smart man! i trust him and what he did, but... we now have a lot more understanding on the system and its complicated. thus we can pick the parts we need to make and make adjustments for the parts we don't need at the moment.... Stan's GMS was an  " Engineering approach " !!!!!! thus we can extract the parts we need to just run the cell. to prove the point of its functionally .

PS. im done arguing the point. lol so we know what Don said and we know what you think, and we know what i think. lol so good research on your part but my thoughts stand unchanged. yours may change once you start digging in more! :) no worries... keep researching!

god bless!

adys15

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #9, on February 7th, 2012, 05:55 AM »
ok Russ...I understand...but i'm not arguing i just said to you what Don said..that's all my point was just people to know that maybe is something missing from GMS...whatever.. and i promise to close this subject about Don..bla bla bla...and research a little more...Br.Ady

~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #10, on February 7th, 2012, 08:27 AM »
Quote from adys15 on February 7th, 2012, 05:55 AM
ok Russ...I understand...but i'm not arguing i just said to you what Don said..that's all my point was just people to know that maybe is something missing from GMS...whatever.. and i promise to close this subject about Don..bla bla bla...and research a little more...Br.Ady
No worries ady, not trying to close you off. It's a good thing that you bring up the point and post it as it helps bring out the truth! So continue posting if you find more info about it! It's cool! The more info we share the better we all will be! Press on my friend! Your doing good! Your are "asking te right qustions" :)

Thanks!!! ~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #11, on February 9th, 2012, 09:22 AM »Last edited on February 9th, 2012, 09:30 AM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from adys15 on February 7th, 2012, 05:55 AM
ok Russ...I understand...but i'm not arguing i just said to you what Don said..that's all my point was just people to know that maybe is something missing from GMS...whatever.. and i promise to close this subject about Don..bla bla bla...and research a little more...Br.Ady
Hey Ady, And All,

So just for fun. I just got off the phone with Don. I asked him some questions about the VIC and also he told me more information about his experience while he had the GMS unit.   He basically told me the same thing that you've posted that you have copied from ionizationx. All in all from my second time chatting with them about this particular issue. There are so many things to bypass that he himself was really not for sure if he got everything correct. He did say he could get the lock in to work. he also told me that the lock-in actually locked in to the secondary choke. So you could actually take the cell completely off the VIC and the scanning circuit would lock in to the resonant frequency within those coils. Those coils actually have enough capacitance to create a self resonating circuit.  

 He also told me that the gating frequency was always a manual tune. So after the lock-in found the resident frequency. You had to manually tune in the gating.

He also told me that he did not have the correct cables to connect the two units together. All in all the impression I got from him directly over the phone was that he was really not for sure if he bypassed all the systems correctly.

 Another thing he told me is that the resident scanning circuit would always lock on to the third harmonic. So the third harmonic for some reason was creating a higher voltage  spike. And that was the frequency of which the scanning circuit would lock onto. Some interesting thoughts I thought I would share before I forgot.



I just thought I would share this with you. Good luck, God bless, and let's figure this stuff out

adys15

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #12, on February 10th, 2012, 12:18 PM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on February 9th, 2012, 09:22 AM
Quote from adys15 on February 7th, 2012, 05:55 AM
ok Russ...I understand...but i'm not arguing i just said to you what Don said..that's all my point was just people to know that maybe is something missing from GMS...whatever.. and i promise to close this subject about Don..bla bla bla...and research a little more...Br.Ady
Hey Ady, And All,

So just for fun. I just got off the phone with Don. I asked him some questions about the VIC and also he told me more information about his experience while he had the GMS unit.   He basically told me the same thing that you've posted that you have copied from ionizationx. All in all from my second time chatting with them about this particular issue. There are so many things to bypass that he himself was really not for sure if he got everything correct. He did say he could get the lock in to work. he also told me that the lock-in actually locked in to the secondary choke. So you could actually take the cell completely off the VIC and the scanning circuit would lock in to the resonant frequency within those coils. Those coils actually have enough capacitance to create a self resonating circuit.  

 He also told me that the gating frequency was always a manual tune. So after the lock-in found the resident frequency. You had to manually tune in the gating.

He also told me that he did not have the correct cables to connect the two units together. All in all the impression I got from him directly over the phone was that he was really not for sure if he bypassed all the systems correctly.

 Another thing he told me is that the resident scanning circuit would always lock on to the third harmonic. So the third harmonic for some reason was creating a higher voltage  spike. And that was the frequency of which the scanning circuit would lock onto. Some interesting thoughts I thought I would share before I forgot.



I just thought I would share this with you. Good luck, God bless, and let's figure this stuff out
Russ i think we need to make another thread about GMS because we disturb people whith our litle chat:d
Sorry for the late reply...from what you say i understand that Don have had the entire ''jig''(see photos attached)..or not? ...i read the ''BIrth of new tech''only GMS and VIC parts..and confused me a lot...So what Don had..GMS1,GMS2 or both(GMS 1 and 2 are the pics below....Please answer and tell me if i ''wired'' them corectely and ..if you can answer the questions posted in the photos...
Sorry for the off topic ....AGAIN...Keep up the good work all;)


~Russ

RE: Step by step VIC build
« Reply #13, on February 13th, 2012, 11:26 PM »Last edited on February 13th, 2012, 11:31 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from adys15 on February 10th, 2012, 12:18 PM
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on February 9th, 2012, 09:22 AM
Quote from adys15 on February 7th, 2012, 05:55 AM
ok Russ...I understand...but i'm not arguing i just said to you what Don said..that's all my point was just people to know that maybe is something missing from GMS...whatever.. and i promise to close this subject about Don..bla bla bla...and research a little more...Br.Ady
Hey Ady, And All,

So just for fun. I just got off the phone with Don. I asked him some questions about the VIC and also he told me more information about his experience while he had the GMS unit.   He basically told me the same thing that you've posted that you have copied from ionizationx. All in all from my second time chatting with them about this particular issue. There are so many things to bypass that he himself was really not for sure if he got everything correct. He did say he could get the lock in to work. he also told me that the lock-in actually locked in to the secondary choke. So you could actually take the cell completely off the VIC and the scanning circuit would lock in to the resonant frequency within those coils. Those coils actually have enough capacitance to create a self resonating circuit.  

 He also told me that the gating frequency was always a manual tune. So after the lock-in found the resident frequency. You had to manually tune in the gating.

He also told me that he did not have the correct cables to connect the two units together. All in all the impression I got from him directly over the phone was that he was really not for sure if he bypassed all the systems correctly.

 Another thing he told me is that the resident scanning circuit would always lock on to the third harmonic. So the third harmonic for some reason was creating a higher voltage  spike. And that was the frequency of which the scanning circuit would lock onto. Some interesting thoughts I thought I would share before I forgot.



I just thought I would share this with you. Good luck, God bless, and let's figure this stuff out
Russ i think we need to make another thread about GMS because we disturb people whith our litle chat:d
Sorry for the late reply...from what you say i understand that Don have had the entire ''jig''(see photos attached)..or not? ...i read the ''BIrth of new tech''only GMS and VIC parts..and confused me a lot...So what Don had..GMS1,GMS2 or both(GMS 1 and 2 are the pics below....Please answer and tell me if i ''wired'' them corectely and ..if you can answer the questions posted in the photos...
Sorry for the off topic ....AGAIN...Keep up the good work all;)
ady, here is the problem we all seem to have.

the dates of witch things were published must be understood.

Ravenous Emu is working on  a nice time line that will help us all understand this.

everything Stan did is in an order, and the photos you constructed are not correct mainly sense you have different parts of different systems intermixes...

so, let me try to help you understand the GMS...


please see these 3 links for a nice view of this:

http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/22/mappings-between-meyers-hydrogen-gms-cards-and-patent-schematics/

http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/22/stanley-meyer-international-patent-wo92-07861/

http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/17/stan-meyer-tour-of-water-powered-dune-buggy-from-may-1992/


this is coped from Alex Petty's site:

it did not copy just right so read it from he links above if you want...
      
         

            

Mappings Between Meyer’s Hydrogen GMS Cards and Patent Schematics


            June 22nd, 2011

            

               

The various card modules of Meyer’s Hydrogen GMS system maps to the patent schematics in the following manner.



I will list the cards in the fuctional order given in my earlier post:


http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/22/stanley-meyer-international-patent-wo92-07861/



Figure 4. - Voltage Amplitude Control Mapping to GMS Card UI

Figure 4. - Voltage Amplitude Control Mapping to GMS Card UI



Figure 3. - Analog Voltage Generator Mapping to  Accel Card UI

Figure 3. - Analog Voltage Generator Mapping to  Accel Card UI



Figure 12. - Variable Pulse Frequency Generator to GMS Card UI

Figure 12. - Variable Pulse Frequency Generator to GMS Card UI



Figure 2. - Digital Control Means Circuit to GMS Card UI

Figure 2. - Digital Control Means Circuit to GMS Card UI




Figure 6. - Gated Pulse Frequency Generator Mapping to Water Cell Card UI

Figure 6. - Gated Pulse Frequency Generator Mapping to Water Cell Card UI



Figure 11. - Gas Feedback Control Circuit to GMS Card UI

Figure 11. - Gas Feedback Control Circuit to GMS Card UI



Figure 7, 8 and 9. - PLL and Resonant Scanning Circuit mapping to GMS Card UI

Figure 7, 8 and 9. - PLL and Resonant Scanning Circuit mapping to GMS Card UI


This blog post has not yet been  finalized.


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Stanley Meyer International Patent WO92-07861


            June 22nd, 2011

            

               

Meyer’s  International Patent WO92-07861 is a document that rises very nearly to the level of  full technical disclosure with respect to his Hydrogen Gas Management System (GMS) and the sustained operation of the Electrical Polarization Process.



You may obtain a copy of this patent from my server at URL:


http://www.singularics.com/docs/meyers-WO9207861A1.pdf


In figure 1 below, Meyer lays out his system in an overview with the following coded block sections (listed below in sequence of operation).


Figure 1. - Hydrogen Gas Management System (GMS) Overview

Figure 1. - Hydrogen Gas Management System (GMS) Overview with VIC and Resonant Cavity


—– (Primary side of Tx) —–


1 — Analog Voltage Generator Circuit (see circuit in Figure 3)


2 — Adjustable Frequency Generator (see circuit in Figure 12)



3  – Digital Control Means (see circuit in Figure 2)


4 — Voltage Amplitude Control Circuit (see circuit in Figure 4)


5 — Adjustable Gated Pulse Frequency Generator (see circuit in Figure 6)


6 — Phase Lock Loop Circuit (see circuit in Figure 7)


7 — Resonant Scanning Circuit (see circuit in Figure 8 )



8 — Cell Driver Circuit (see circuit in Figure 5)


9 — TX1  (see circuit in Figure 10)


 


—– (Feedback from Tx) —–


10 — TX3 (see circuit in Figure 10)


11 — Pulse Indicator Circuit (see circuit in Figure 9)



 


—– (Feedback from Resonant Cavity) —–


12 — Gas Pressure Sensor (see Resonant Cavity in Figure 10)


13 — Gas Feedback Control Circuit (see circuit in Figure 11)


 


—– (Secondary side of Tx) —–


14 — TX2 (see circuit in Figure 10)



15 — TX5 (see circuit in Figure 10) to B – (connection to ground on Vss terminal o


16 — Resonant Cavity


17 — B+ to TX4


18 — Blocking Diode



 


I have included below the referenced circuits listed above.


You will also notice that Meyer uses letters A, B, E, F, G, H, J, K, L, M and M1 to indicate signal interchange (communication) between the various circuit elements. I refer to these as COM stages in what follows (eg. COM A, COM M1, etc.).


The electrical energy for managing the waveform and also driving the resonant cavity fuel cell  is supplied by the Analog Voltage Generator (fig. 3).


Figure 3. - Analog Voltage Generator

Figure 3. - Analog Voltage Generator


The Hydrogen GMS also has the ability to apply dynamically generated voltage pressures to the collector of the FET that drives the VIC TX1. This functionality is provided by the Voltage Amplitude Control Circuit (fig. 4) and whose logic is managed by the Digital Control Means Circuit (fig. 2).


Figure 4. - Voltage Amplitude Control Circuit

Figure 4. - Voltage Amplitude Control Circuit


With access to battery power and with the system turned on, the first thing Meyer’s Hydrogen GMS must do is to determine the resonant frequency for the resonant cavity.


This job is performed by the Variable Pulse Frequency Generator (fig. 12). It  accomplishes this by interpreting a resistor based  impedance matching network indicated in the “Pulse Frequency Control” section of the schematic.



Figure 12. - Variable Pulse Frequency Generator

Figure 12. - Variable Pulse Frequency Generator


The non-gated resonant frequency is then setup by the Digital Control Means circuit (fig. 2) through COM G.


Figure 2. - Digital Control Means

Figure 2. - Digital Control Means


The Digital Control Means circuit has two main jobs:


1) Sets the required gate frequency given the degree to which the throttle is engaged. A high throttle setting corresponds to a shorter gate frequency which yields higher fuel gas output to accommodate the higher energy requirements of acceleration. This throttle dependent gate frequency is communicated to the Adjustable Gated Pulse Frequency circuit (fig. 6) through COM M1.


2) Sets the DC voltage in the Voltage Amplitude Control circuit (fig. 4) through COM M. The variable DC voltage applied to VIC  TX1 servers as a further control for governing the magnitude of the high voltage pulses that the resonant cavity experiences.


Figure 6. - Adjustable Gated Pulse Frequency Generator

Figure 6. - Adjustable Gated Pulse Frequency Generator


The Adjustable Gated Pulse Frequency Generator (fig. 6) produces the required gate frequency and combines it with the resonant frequency in real-time which it then sends to a Phase Lock Loop Circuit (fig. 7) through COM A.


The Adjustable Gated Pulse Frequency Generator also adds one further tuning parameter to the gate frequency requirement – that of  fuel gas pressure in the resonant cavity enclosure. The system uses gas pressure maintenance as part of the equation for calculating required gate frequency and DC voltage amplitudes that will enable the cell to keep up with the fuel demands of the engine.  Gas pressure is constantly monitored by a gas pressure sensor which sends data to the Adjustable Gated Pulse Frequency Generator (fig. 6) through the Gas Feedback Control Circuit (fig.11)  by way of COM K.



Figure 11. -  Gas Feedback Control

Figure 11. -  Gas Feedback Control


In general, a phase lock loop (PLL) is a control system that tries to generate an output signal whose phase is related to the phase of the input “reference” signal.


It is an electronic circuit consisting of a variable frequency oscillator and a phase detector.


This circuit compares the phase of the input signal (COM A  from the Adjustable Gated Pulse Frequency Generator, fig. 6) with the phase of the signal derived from its output oscillator (Cell Driver Circuit, fig. 5).  Note that the system can monitor the PLL output oscillator by way of COM H received from the Pulse Indicator Circuit (fig. 9).


Figure 7. - Phase Lock Loop

Figure 7. - Phase Lock Loop


The circuits in figures 7 and 8 interchange through COMs E, F and L.


Figure 7. - Resonant Frequency Scanning Circuit

Figure 7. - Resonant Frequency Scanning Circuit



The circuit then adjusts the frequency of its output oscillator to keep the phases matched.


The signal from the phase detector is used to control the oscillator in a feedback loop.


Figure 9. - Pulse Indicator Circuit

Figure 9. - Pulse Indicator Circuit


Frequency is the derivative of phase. Keeping the input and output phase in lock step implies keeping the input and output frequencies in lock step. Consequently, a phase-locked loop can track an input frequency, or it can generate a frequency that is a multiple of the input frequency. This latter property is used by Meyer’s GMS computer for resonant frequency synthesis.


The tuned resonant frequency output of this sub-system is then sent to the Cell Driver Circuit.


Figure 5. - Cell Driver Circuit

Figure 5. - Cell Driver Circuit


This resulting energization is applied to the VIC to create the physical gas production effects in the resonant cavity enclosure.


Figure 10. - Voltage Intensifier Circuit

Figure 10. - Voltage Intensifier Circuit



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I have reproduced the full text of this patent below as it is very instructive.


Control and Driver Circuits for a Hydrogen Gas Fuel Producing Cell


The invention relates to electrical circuit systems useful in the operation of a water fuel cell including a water capacitor/resonant cavity for the production of a hydrogen containing fuel gas, such as that described in my United States Letter Patent No. 4,936,961, “Method for the production of a Fuel Gas”, issued on June 26, 1990.


In my aforesaid Letters Patent for a method for the production of a fuel gas, voltage pulses applied to the plates of a water capacitor tune into the dielectric properties  of the water and attenuate the electrical forces between the hydrogen and oxygen atoms of the molecule. The attenuation of the electrical forces results in a change in the molecular electrical forces results in a change in the molecular forces of the hydrogen and oxygen atoms. When resonance is achieved, the atomic bond of the molecule is broken, and the atoms of the molecule disassociate. At resonance, the current (amp) draw from a power source to the water is minimized and the voltage across the water capacitor increases. Electron flow is not permitted (except at the minimum, corresponding to leakage resulting from the residual conductive properties of water). For the process to continue, however, a resonant condition must be maintained.


Because of the electrical polarity of the water molecule, the fields produced in the water capacitor respectively attract and repel the opposite and like charges in the molecule, and the forces eventually achieved at resonance are such that the strength of the covalent bonding forces in the water molecule (which are normally in an electron sharing mode) disassociate. Upon disassociation, the formerly shared bonding electrons migrate to the hydrogen nuclei, and both the hydrogen and oxygen revert to the net zero electrical charge. The atoms are released from the water as a gas mixture.


In the invention herein, a control circuit for a resonant cavity water capacitor cell utilized for the production of a hydrogen containing fuel gas is provided.


The circuit includes an isolation means such as a transformer having a ferromagnetic, ceramic or other electromagnetic material core and having one side of a secondary coil connected in series with a high speed switching diode to one plate of the water capacitor of the resonant cavity and the other side of the water capacitor to form a closed loop electronic circuit utilizing the dielectric properties of water as part of the electronic resonant circuit. The primary coil of the isolation transformer is connected to a pulse generation means. The secondary coil of the transformer may include segments that form resonant charging choke circuits in series with the water capacitor plates.



In the pulse generation means, an adjustable first, resonant frequency generator and a second gated pulse pulse frequency generator are provided. A gate pulse controls the number of of pulses produced by the resonant frequency generator sent to the primary coil during a period determined by the gate frequency of the second pulse generator.


The invention also includes a means for sensing the occurrence of a resonant condition in the water capacitor/resonant cavity, which when a ferromagnetic or electromagnetic core is used, may be a pickup coil on the transformer coil. The sensing means is interconnected to a scanning circuit and phase lock loop circuit, whereby the pulsing frequency to the primary coil of the transformer is maintained at a sensed frequency corresponding to the resonant condition in the water capacitor.


Control means are provided in the circuit for adjusting the amplitude of a pulsing cycle sent to the primary coil and for maintaining the frequency of the pulsing cycle at a constant frequency regardless of pulse amplitude. In addition, the gated pulse frequency generator may be operatively interconnected with a sensor that monitors the rate of gas production from the cell and controls the number of pulses from the resonant frequency generator sent to the cell in a gated frequency in a correspondence with the rate of gas production. The sensor may be a gas pressure sensor in an enclosed water capacitor resonant cavity which also includes a gas outlet. The gas pressure sensor is operatively connected to the circuit to determine the rate of gas production with respect to ambient gas pressure in the water capacitor enclosure.


Thus, an omnibus control circuit and its discrete elements for maintaining and controlling the resonance and other aspects of the release of gas from a resonant cavity water cell is described herein and illustrated in the drawings which depict the following:


Figure 1 is a block diagram of an overall control circuit showing the interrelationship of sub-circuits, the pulsing core/resonant circuit and the water capacitor resonant cavity.


Figure 2 shows a type of digital control means for regulating the ultimate rate of gas production as determined by an external input. (Such a control means would correspond, for example, to the accelerator in an automobile or a building thermostat control.)


Figure 3 shows an analog voltage generator.



Figure 4 is a voltage amplitude control circuit interconnected with the voltage generator and one side of the primary coil of the pulsing core.


Figure 5 is the cell driver circuit that is connected with the opposite side of the primary coil of the pulsing core.


Figure 6, 7, 8 and 9 relate to the pulsing control means including a gated pulse frequency generator.


(Figure 6); a phase lock circuit


(Figure 7); a resonant scanning circuit


(Figure 8); and the pulse indicator circuit



(Figure 9) that control pulses transmitted to the resonant cavity/water fuel cell capacitor


Figure 10 shows the pulsing core and the voltage intensifier circuit that is the interface between the control circuit and the resonant cavity.


Figure 11 is a gas feedback control circuit.


Figure 12 is an adjustable frequency generator circuit.


The circuits are operatively interconnected as shown in Figure 1 and to the pulsing core voltage intensifier circuit of Figure 10, which, inter alia, electrically isolates the water capacitor so that it becomes an electrically isolated cavity for the processing of water in accordance with its dielectric resonance properties. By reason of the isolation, power consumption in the control and driving circuits is minimized when resonance occurs; and current demand is minimized as voltage is maximized in the gas production mode of the water capacitor/fuel cell.



The reference letters appearing in the Figures, A, B, C, D, E, etc., to M and M1 show, with respect to each separate circuit depicted, the point at which a connection in that circuit is made to a companion or interrelated circuit.


In the invention, the water capacitor is subjected to a duty pulse which builds up in the resonant changing choke coils and then collapses. This occurrence permits a unipolar pulse to be applied to the fuel capacitor. When a resonant condition of the circuit is locked-in by the circuit, amp leakage is held to a minimum as the voltage which creates the dielectric field tends to infinity. Thus, when high voltage is detected upon resonance, the phase lock loop circuit that controls the cell driver circuit maintains the resonance at the detected (or sensed) frequency.


The resonance of the water capacitor cell is affected by the volume of water in the cell. The resonance of any given volume of water maintained in the water capacitor cell is also affected by “contaminants” in the water which act as a damper. For example, at an applied potential difference of 2000 to 5000 volts to the cell, an amp spike or surge may be caused by in consistencies in water characteristics that cause an out-of-resonance condition which is remedied instantaneously by the control circuits.


In the invention, the adjustable frequency generator (Figure 12) tunes into the resonant condition of the circuit including the water cell and the water therein. The generator has a frequency capability of 0 to 10 KHz and tunes into resonance typically at a frequency of 5 KHz in a typical 3.0 inch water capacitor formed of a 0.5 inch rod enclosed within a 0.75 inch inside diameter cylinder. At start up, in this example, current draw through the water cell will measure about 25 milliamp; however, when the circuit finds a tuned resonant condition, current drops to a 1 – 2 milliamp minimum leakage condition.


The voltage to the capacitor water cell increases according to the turns of the winding and size of the coils, as in a typical transformer circuit. For example, if 12 volts are sent to the primary coil of the pulsing core and the secondary coil resonant charging choke ratio is 30 to 1, then 360 volts are sent to the capacitor water cell. Turns are a design variable that control the voltage of the unipolar pulses sent to the capacitor.



The high speed switching diode shown in Figure 10 prevents charge leakage from the charged water in the water capacitor cavity, and the water capacitor as an overall capacitor circuit element, i.e., the pulse and charge status of the water/capacitor never pass through an arbitrary ground. The pulse to the water capacitor is always unipolar. The water capacitor is electrically isolated from the control, input and driver circuits by the electromagnetic coupling through the core. The switching diode in the VIC circuit (Figure 10) performs several functions in the pulsing. The diode is an electronic switch that determines the generation and collapse of an electromagnetic field to permit the resonant charging choke(s) to double the applied frequency and also allows the pulse to be sent to the resonant cavity without discharging the “capacitor” therein. The diode, of course, is selected in accordance with the maximum voltage encountered in the pulsing circuit. A 600 PIV fast switching diode, such as an NVR 1550 high speed switching diode, has been found to be useful in the circuit herein.


The VIC circuit of Figure 10 also includes a ferromagnetic or ceramic ferromagnetic pulsing core capable of producing electromagnetic flux lines in response to an electrical pulse input. The flux lines equally affect the secondary coil and the resonant charging choke windings. Preferably, the core is a closed loop construction. The effect of the core is to isolate the water capacitor and to prevent the pulsing signal from going below an arbitrary ground and to maintain the charge of the already charged water and water capacitor.


In the pulsing core, the coils are preferably wound in the same direction to maximize the additive effect of the electromagnetic field therein.


The magnetic field of the pulsing core is in synchronization with the pulse input to the primary coil. The potential from the secondary coil is introduced to the resonant charging choke(s) series circuit elements which are subjected to the same synchronous applied electromagnetic field, simultaneously with the primary pulse.


When resonance occurs, control of the gas output is achieved by varying voltage amplitude or varying the time of duty gate cycle. The transformer core is a pulse frequency doubler. In a figurative explanation of the workings of the fuel gas generator water capacitor cell, when a water molecule is “hit” by a pulse, electron time share is affected, and the molecule is charged. When the time of the duty cycle is changed, the number of pulses that “hit” the molecules in the fuel cell is correspondingly modified. More “hits” results in a greater rate of molecular disassociation.



With references to the overall circuit of Figure 1, Figure 3 receives a digital input signal, and Figure 4 depicts the control means that directs 0-12 volts across the primary coil of the pulsing core. Depending upon designs parameters of primary coil voltage and other factors relevant to core design, the secondary coil of the pulsing core can be set up for a predetermined maximum, such as 2000 volts.


Figure 5, the cell driver circuit, allows a gated pulse to be varied in a direct relation to voltage amplitude.


As noted above, the circuit of Figure 6 produces a gate pulse frequency. The gate pulse is superimposed over the resonant frequency pulse to create a duty cycle that determines the number of discrete pulses sent to the primary coil. For example, assuming a resonant pulse of 5 KHz, a 0.5 Hz gate pulse may be superimposed over the 5 KHz pulse to provide 2500 discrete pulses in a 50% duty cycle per Hz. The relationship of resonant pulse to the gate pulse is determined by conventional signal addition/subtraction techniques.


Figure 7, a phase lock loop, allows pulse frequency to be maintained at a predetermined resonant condition sensed by the circuit. Together, the circuits of Figures 7 and 8 determine an output signal to the pulsing core until the peak voltage signal sensed at resonance is achieved.


A resonant condition occurs when the pulse frequency and the voltage input attenuates the covalent bonding forces of the hydrogen and oxygen atoms of the water molecule. When this occurs, amp leakage through the water capacitor is minimized. The tendency of voltage to maximize at resonance increases the force of the electric potential applied to the water molecules, which ultimately disassociate into atoms.


Because resonances of different waters, water volumes, and capacitor cells vary, the resonant scanning circuit of Figure 8 is useful. The scanning circuit of Figure 8 scans frequency from high to low to low to high repeating until a signal lock is determined. The ferromagnetic core of the voltage intensifier circuit transformer suppresses electron surge in an out-of-resonance condition of the fuel cell. In an example, the circuit scans at frequencies from 0 Hz to 10 KHz to 0 Hz. In water having contaminants in the range of of 1 ppm to 20 ppm, a 20% variance in resonant frequency is encountered. Depending on water flow rate into fuel cell, the nominal variance range is about 8 to 10%. For example, iron in well water affects the status of molecular disassociation. Also, at a resonant condition harmonic effects occur. In a typical operation of the cell with a representative water capacitor described below, at a frequency of about 5 KHz at unipolar pulses from 0 to 650 volts at a sensed resonant condition into the resonant cavity, conversion of about 5 gallons of water per hour into a fuel gas will occur on average. To increase the rate, multiple resonant cavities can be used and/or the surfaces of the water capacitor can be increased, however, the water capacitor cell is preferable small in scale. A typical water capacitor may be formed from a 0.5 inch in diameter stainless steel rod and a 0.75 inch inside diameter cylinder that together extend concentrically about 3.0 inches with respect to each other.


Shape and size of the resonant cavity may vary. Larger resonant cavities and higher rates of consumption of water in the conversion process require higher frequencies such as up to 50 KHz and above. The pulsing rate, to sustain such high rates of conversion must be correspondingly increased.


From the foregoing description of the preferred embodiment, other variations and modifications of the system disclosed will be evident to those of skill in the art.


WHAT IS CLAIMED IS:



1. A control circuit for a resonant cavity water capacitor cell utilized for the production of hydrogen containing fuel gas including an isolation transformer including a ferromagnetic core and having one side of a secondary coil connected in series with a high speed switching diode to one plate of the water capacitor of the resonant cavity and the other side of the secondary coil connected to the other plate of the water capacitor to form a closed loop electronic loop circuit utilizing the dielectric properties of water as part of the electronic circuit and a primary coil connected to a pulse generation means.


2. The circuit of Claim 1 in which the secondary coil includes segments that form a resonant charging choke circuit in series with the water capacitor.


3. The circuit of Claim 1 in which the pulse generation means includes an adjustable first frequency generator and a second gated pulse frequency generator which controls the number of pulses produced by the first frequency generator sent to the primary coil during a period determined by the gate frequency of the second pulse generator.


4. The circuit of Claim 1 further including a means for sensing the occurrence of a resonant condition in the water capacitor of the resonant cavity.


5. The circuit of Claim 4 in which the means for sensing is a pickup coil on the ferromagnetic core of the transformer.


6.  The circuit of Claim 4 of Claim 5 in which the sensing means is interconnected to a scanning circuit and a phase lock loop circuit, whereby the pulsing frequency to the primary coil of the transformer is maintained at a sensed frequency corresponding to a resonant condition in the water capacitor.


7. The circuit of Claim 1 including means for adjusting the amplitude of a pulsing cycle sent to the primary coil.


8. The circuit of Claim 6 including further means for maintaining the frequency of the pulsing cycle at a constant frequency regardless of pulse amplitude.


9. The circuit of Claim 3 in which the gated pulse frequency generator is operatively interconnected with a sensor that monitors the rate of gas production from the cell and controls the number of pulses to the cell in a gated frequency in a correspondence with the rate of gas production.



10. The circuit of Claim 7 or Claim 8 or Claim 9 further including a gas pressure sensor in an enclosed water capacitor resonant cavity which also includes a gas outlet, which gas pressure sensor is operatively connected to the circuit to determine the rate of gas production with respect to ambient gas pressure in the water capacitor enclosure.


11. The methods and apparatus as substantially described herein.



            

Stan Meyer Tour of Water Powered Dune Buggy from May 1992


            June 17th, 2011

            

               

The present video was recorded in May of 1992 and contains an interview with Stan Meyer in which he candidly discusses the various components of his water-powered dune buggy.



In the first portion of the video Meyers covers his technology implemented in the vehicle step by step. In the second part, he talks about his religious inspiration that brought the technology into being.



I have transcribed the entire video below.


I suggest you open the player in one browser and read the illustrated transcript in another, pausing the player audio from time to time to carefully study the illustrations or to think about the concepts.


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[02:16] (To the camera man) Can you zoom in back in here?


[02:24] Are we on?


[02:25] Ok, now this is the Hydrogen Computer System which was designed in order to be able to process the fuel to produce the hydrogen gas from water and do it economically and be able to control its firing allowing the Volkswagen engine to run off of hydrogen. There’s a lot of engineering design that went into this even though this is our systezms engineering approach. The Hydrogen Computer System you see here will be miniaturized down to several IC chips which will allow us to give the economics to apply to a conventional car.


Figure 1. - Hydrogen computer system aka. the GMS

Figure 1. - Hydrogen computer system aka. the GMS



[03:08] Over here there’s very unique design features that had to be developed in order to develop the water fuel cell as a retrofit energy systems to conventional cars. We had to go ahead and develop what we call the laser distributor as you see right here,


Figure 2. - Laser distributor system

Figure 2. - Laser distributor system


Figure 3. - Laser distributor system, closer view

Figure 3. - Laser distributor system, closer view


[03:25] which is put between conventional rotor cap and that of the rotor assembly. And primarily what this does is this sets up the electronic signals that goes back and triggers the computer system (Meyer points at the GMS) in order to allow the car to run successfully on hydrogen.


[03:42] In order to run this engine off of water, we’ve also had to learn the ability to adjust the burn rate of hydrogen to co-equal the fossil fuels. We did this by simply now pulling off a portion of the exhaust gases as you can see through this tube here


Figure 4. - Electronic meter mixing the exhaust gases

Figure 4. - Electronic meter mixing the exhaust gases


[03:59] going to this electronic regulator that’s hooked up to the hydrogen computer. And basically, what’s happening is that the ambient air is going into the engine and going through the burning process it produces the non-combustible gases that retards the speed by which the oxygen atom unites to hydrogen to bring on gas ignition. So by simply using the non combustible gases  coming from the exhaust of the engine, we now modulate and control the speed by which that oxygen unites with the hydrogen and therefore we are adjusting the burn rate of hydrogen to co-equal that of gasoline or fossil fuels or even diesel fuel. And that gave us the number one retrofit capabilities of retrofitting the water fuel cell technology to an existing engine and we do this electronically.



Figure 5. - Gas processor unit

Figure 5. - Gas processor unit


[04:46] The unit that you see right here, we call this a gas processor. And basically, what we are doing is we are ionizing the ambient air gases that are now going into the process and this allows us to trigger and use the hydrogen fracturing technology and tapping into a higher energy yield coming from the hydrogen.


Figure 6. - Resonant cavity unit

Figure 6. - Resonant cavity unit


[05:05] The unit that you see right here (see figure 6) , this is referred to as the resonant cavity.


Figure 7. - Water tank that feeds the resonant cavity unit

Figure 7. - Water tank that feeds the resonant cavity unit


[05:10] Water is now fed into the resonant cavity through this water tank (see figure 7) and as such we now expose the water to a very high intense pulse voltage field and restrict the amps and therefore the electrical polarization process now allows us to release the hydrogen economically from water. And by attenuating the amplitude of the voltage field, we now can control the rate of the production of the hydrogen gas on demand. So this is whats referred to as a constant demand generator. We also now extend or allow the voltage amplitude to increase even to a higher level and allow the water atoms to go into an ionization state which gives us an ability even to produce a higher energy yield by producing more hydrogen gas on demand.


[05:58] So the fuel now, coming from the water through the electrical polarization process going into resonance, resonance meaning that we are actually tuning into the dielectric properties of water. And allows us to reduce amp flow down to a minimum and allows voltage to take over to disassociate the water molecule on demand.


Figure 8. - Regulator unit that meter mixes combustible and non-combustible gases to provide burn rate control

Figure 8. - Electronic Injector system regulator unit that meter mixes combustible and non-combustible gases to provide burn rate control


[06:16] And those fuel gases are now coming through this electronic injector system as you see here. So basically, we are now feeding the ionized air from the gas processor. We are now also taking the water fuel gases that are now coming from ordinary water. We are now mixing it with a non-combustible gases, the ambient air gases, and regulating this control of the fluid medium and as a result now we can tune in and allow this engine to run off of natural water.



Figure 9. - Voltage Intesifier Circuit (VIC) unit

Figure 9. - Voltage Intesifier Circuit (VIC) unit


[06:50] This systems approach, this particular unit here (see Figure 9) is referred to as the VIC or the Voltage Intensified Circuit technology. This is being miniaturized down to very small light weight system. This is demonstrating our systems engineering approach on a technology that we can apply it to other applications not only in the transportation but also in the industrial applications. So it was paramount that we would demonstrate and have the technologies solve for design engineering retrofitting to existing energy consuming devices whether it was being running an internal combustion engine or a diesel engine or hook it to an industrial process. So all of these design interfacing technologies are now being solved. We are now in the latter stages of what we call the pre-engineering system which will now allow us to miniaturize the technology. Once we are completed on the design applications, we can take it into mass production.


[07:48] I’ll give you a classical example of this, we’ve also developed from this technology which we’ve called the water fuel cell injector


Figure 10. - Water-fuel injector

Figure 10. - Water-fuel injector


[07:57] and basically this injector now is a miniaturized water fuel cell, or miniaturized resonant cavity. And this technology now allows us to simply replace – we can by pass this part of the system’s approach and now simply replace the spark plug with the water fuel cell injector


Figure 11. - Water-fuel injector installation point

Figure 11. - Water-fuel injector installation point



[08:18] and as a result now we can run water up to the injector which is now being processed and being exposed to a very high pulse voltage frequency and as a result as the water fuel is going into the system then the explosion takes place inside the cylinder therefore makes this an extremely fail-safe operable system.


[08:39] The cord that you see here is strictly hooks up to a very high intensity voltage pulse and we restrict the amps to cause the electrical polarization process which in turn turns the voltage amplitude now takes it and goes in the ionization state and performs the hydrogen fracturing technology and then in turn the high pulse voltage frequency now allows the ignition of the gases. So therefore we do this electronically and so this technology is taken us down to the water fuel injector as you see here today which gives us a very economical way of simply converting and running a conventional car on ordinary natural water.


[09:24] So basically, what we do is we feed ordinary, natural water in here - non processed natural water, we now feed the ambient air gases, being ionized, its being mixed with the water, and then we mix the non combustible gases going into the system that regulates the control that allows us now to release the thermal explosive energy from hydrogen and do it on a controlled means.


Figure 12. - Laser accelerator control unit

Figure 12. - Laser accelerator control unit


Figure 12.5 - Laser accelerator control unit, close up

Figure 12.5 - Laser accelerator control unit, close up


[09:56] Further development on the technology centered around also the development, what we call the laser accelerator control (see figures 12 and 12.5). And this had to be developed in order to translate from a mechanical displacement to an electronic displacement in order to allow the hydrogen computer system to produce the gas on demand based on acceleration control. So what you are really seeing with the water fuel cell as it is today is that we have a full system engineering approach allowing us now to use water as a main fuel source to able to run a conventional engine and run it on water and do it in equal or supersede the performance of a car running on gasoline or diesel fuel.


[10:44] Many people do not realize that when you run a car or truck on gasoline of diesel fuel, you are actually running it on hydrogen. And all we are doing is using the hydrogen from water. And under the National Bureau of Standards figures shows that when you use water, the energy release is roughly two and a half times more powerful then that of gasoline. So water is a very powerful fuel. And all you needed to do was solve the answers;  number one producing the hydrogen economically, controlling it on demand, being able to adjust the burn rate of the hydrogen gas to co-equal the fossil fuels and the third one was to be able to transport it without spark ignition. And we’ve solved all of these problems on the design engineering, and of course the water fuel injector as I’ve shown you, now gives us the abilities to transport the water directly to the fuel injector which is now going into the voltage zone which is now performing the electrical polarization process that goes and triggers the hydrogen fracturing technology. But its doing it inside the engine.  So we all know that natural water is very stable and therefore it becomes a very fail-safe operable system as we pointed out earlier.


[11:58] (Meyer’s assistant) And do you want to say something about how we constrict amp flow?



[12:02] Yeah, we talked about that.


[12:02] (Meyer’s assistant) Did you mention something about that?


[12:03] Yeah. So in a system engineering approach, in mass production it looks like we can translate and reduce the systems approach down to a unit that costs roughly 1500 dollars per vehicle. For trucks it will be slightly larger then that, below 5000 dollars – it looks like we will be able to reach the economics to it and using ordinary natural water. You add nothing to the water, you don’t process the water in any way.


Figure 13 - Steam resonator unit

Figure 13 - Steam resonator unit



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RE: Don's Experience With Stan's GMS and VIC Card Unit
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[12:32] Now here is another feature to the system that everybody asks me about (See figure 13). They say, “What happens to the water in the winter time? Does it freeze up?”. Well part of our technology was in the areas of development of what we call the steam resonator. Now since the unlike atoms take on opposite electrical charges, we simply use another part of our technology to restrict the amps and let voltage to take over and therefore we agitate the water molecules which in turn generates kinetic energy which in turn heats the water. Now this is phenomenal in the fact that we consume very little electrical energy in order to heat the water. So there are very far ranging advantages and features to this technology, arranging even in the areas that we now have a way of using voltage by switching off amp flow and dealing with the environmental control areas we are developing the technology in the areas of desalination of salt water. When ever you have a free or abundant energy source like water, its only limited to the imagination to put it to work. This technology is very applicable to desalination of the salt water, the handling of toxic waste chemicals by high pulse voltage frequency and restrict the amps, we now can separate the molecular structure of toxic chemicals and render them useless and safe.


[13:49] It also takes us to the technology of combining unlike atoms that heretofore was not possible under the natural state of covalent link-up. This led us to the development of the EPG electrical generator technology where we are able to manufacture a magnetized gas that exists at room temperature and enhance the electromagnetic field without increasing mass. So our technology since the time of the Arab embargo has been very far reaching to give us a comprehensive energy source that would literally be used anywhere in the economies and do a bi-lateral movement throughout the economies of the world to bring an energy source in. And as I pointed out earlier, the pinion of energy prices that will confront us very quickly, we literally have the ability now of engineering systems that systems engineering mass production systems very very quickly. And hopefully be able to stem off the imminent energy crisis that is now occurring. A lot of people are not aware of that Kuwait produces or manufactures the majority of aviation fuel for the world and its anticipated, as pointed out earlier, that its possible that as much as 20% drop in aviation fuel may occur within 6 to 8 months. If that happens then the dominos effect will occur and will start to trigger and energy shortage throughout the world.



[15:10] The same conditions that happened in the United States is also happening in the Arab fields where the natural pressure in the existing oik fields are dropping. The only difference between the U.S. and the Arab fields is their pressure is dropping 3 times faster then occurred in the United states. You just cant keep pulling the oil out of the ground and expect that its going to be there forever. The hour glass effect is occurring at a more faster rate then now in nuclear power plants. China has opened the doors to Western technology, 25% of the population of the world wants the same goods and services that you and I have been enjoying and that industrial base can not be maintained or expanded without the supply and utilization of energy of which we have very little fossil fuel left. So its imperative that we developed a technology that we can move very quickly and of course, water was the answer to it – because water is a very free and abundant energy source. And so this technology has led us to the abilities of harnessing and using the water in this particular way which we call the water fuel cell technology.


[16:12] (Interviewer) Do you have an indication of the amount of energy stored in a gallon of water compared to a barrel of oil for instance?


[16:21] Yes. As I pointed out earlier, when you separate the hydrogen and oxygen gases and go into the gas ignition process, its energy releases roughly two and a half times that of gasoline. Now note the reference is not two and a half times that of finger nail polish, its two and a half times that of gasoline.


[16:39] But in the hydrogen fracturing technology, we have developed a technology – as the Lord has shown me – that by igniting the hydrogen and oxygen gases, and setting up an condition by which the water molecule is prevented to form, then we now can tap into a very higher energy yield, and as  a result of this, the hydrogen fracturing technology shows that we can release energy up to and beyond 2.5 million barrels of oil per gallon of water and do it safely.


[17:07] And as I shown you earlier, we are now preparing this technology to be retro-fitted directly to a jet commander which we plan not only to fly around the world non-stop around the equator,  but turn 90 degrees and go from the north and south pole. So its a tremendous amount of energy source. And what we have done is found a triggering process to allow us to release a tremendous amount of energy and do it safely.  So it gives us an ability to not only sustain and maintain the economies of the world,  but also give us the abilities to handle the environmental pollution problems at the same time.


[17:42] We can’t keep putting CO2 in the air and expect that the energy levels are going to be there even for our plants. And we all talk about the Greenhouse Effect but very few people come up with a viable answer to it. And the water fuel cell technology gives us the ability.



Figure 14. - Stan Meyer and looking at his work

Figure 14. - Stan Meyer and looking at his work


[17:57] (Interviewer) Stanley can you explain your driving force behind spending all this money and energy developing something like this. It’s cost you about ten years of your life. Can you explain why you are doing all this and what really drives you to keep going.


[18:14] Well I did an analysis during the Arab embargo as to what actually occurred, and I realized that without a new and abundant energy source that was to come into the world economy very quickly, then the world economy could collapse. So as a scientist, I have a very diversified background, from research development to product development engineering and corporate entrepreneuring. And when I realized the problem that was confronting us, I went into my office laboratory and as a scientists I had always believed in the existence of God.  I thought it was mathematically impossible that we had derived ourselves from swamp gas. If you have to have a lot faith you have to have a lot of faith to believe in evolution. And so I went into my office laboratory and I said, “God, I love my country. It’s the greatest country in the world. If you’ll help me put a power supply in the country I’ll do anything that you want me to do.” And subsequently I was like Paul on the road to Damascus. I didn’t know the Lord, but once he revealed himself to me, subsequently I was filled with the Holy Spirit and I have been exercising the power, the authority and the word of God bringing this technology in. And many people ask me about do I fear for my life, I have learned the power of angels and I have been protected in trying to bring this technology in.


[19:28] The ultimate objective is not only to stabilize the economies of the world, but, if we realize any funds from the technology it will go into world evangelization. You see, as a scientist, once truth is shown to me, truth is truth, of course I got what I wanted – a ticket to going to heaven – and I got filled with the Holy Spirit, and so as a scientist, truth is truth and I have a responsibility just as I have a responsibility to the water fuel cell technology, to try to bring it out in the world, I also have the responsibility really to take the word and the truth of God, not only to the guy who next door neighbor, or the guy down the block, but also relate that truth of that knowledge to every person in the world if I possibly can do it. So the ultimate objective of the water fuel cell technology really is to help set the financial base capable of evangelizing the world.



[20:19] Now there is a difference between spiritual knowledge and worldly knowledge. And you cant go to the world system and ask them to help evangelize the world and spread the gospel but you can go to the world’s system and give them a cheap power supply that’s so economically and then those funds will go into the world evangelization. So the water fuel cell technology really, the ultimate objective is to accomplish the task of evangelizing the world by giving the financial abilities to do so. And that’s my ultimate and prime objective. The water fuel cell will give us the abilities to do this.


[20:55] (Interviewer) Can you explain – you mentioned one Bible text – what do you mean by that?


Figure 15. - Stan Meyer's logo

Figure 15. - Stan Meyer's logo


[21:03] Well, you notice on my logo, you’ll see Job 38 verse 22 and 23 and this is where the Lord is talking to job and he asks Job this question, he say, “Have you considered the treasures of snow? Or have you considered the treasures of hell which I have reserved against the time of trouble against battle and war.” The interpretation of the scriptures are as follows. Is not snow the most beautiful part about water? That no one snow flake looks exactly the same as that of another. The treasures of snow is the characteristic knowledge of water. The Lord knew that in fact that we would have and reach a very critical point in our history that since we went on our path that we reach a limit in the flow of fossil fuels and that the flow of fossil fuels may be disrupted and as a result the lord specified that the knowledge of water would come at a time of great trouble. But he also specified that the knowledge would come out prior to two events.



[film was edited and a portion of the interview is missing]


[21:56] (Interviewer) Now that we’ve heard how the thing functions, and you’ve explained background – why you are working on this thing – what do you think are possible applications and where do you think this device can be applied and what scale? What is the amount of energy we can get out of it? You talked before about converting cars, commercial airplanes. Is there any other application you can think of?


[22:20] Oh yes! Not only is this technology applicable to all modes of transportation but it also has application in industrial processes. During the Arab embargo, I was called into a meeting in Columbus, Ohio with the industrial leaders and the Columbia Gas system informed us that our gas was being cut off 100%. What they actually were telling us is that we were going out of business. And I saw some of the richest and most powerful industrial leaders of the state popping pills and I thought they were going to have a heart attacks because basically without energy you can’t make a product, and you cant make a product you cant make profit, and if you cant make a profit you can not pay your bills. The result is that the bigger you are, the faster you would go into economic bankruptcy. So, it was imperative that this technology not only be developed for the transportation areas but also to applied to industrial applications to be able to give energy.


[23:12] The technology in the hydrogen fracturing technology gave us the abilities to go in and protect the military integrity of the western world. So this technology is applicable not only in those areas but – for an example, during the Arab embargo, our Navy task force did not have the fuel and so as we have the ability now to go into maritime applications and literally run the ships off of water as a main fuel source and at the using the application is cleaning up our environment and preventing from the COT and the catastrophe contaminants that go in the air.



[23:45] So, we can move this technology bi-lateral in every aspect of the economy and do it very, very quickly. And so that leads us now into the fact that we have been developing this technology for mass production. And so, once we finalize the debugging of the pre-engineering unit, then we are going to translate it into a very cost effective system by taking the technology in the microchip technology and plastic mold injection technology allows us now to move this type of technology very very quickly. As a matter of fact, one master mold can produce over 11,000 units every 24 hours. That gives us the abilities now to move in a bilateral movement  to get the energy source throughout the entire world quickly if the oil is shut off to us either by way or by some other methods. A lot of people do not realize Saddam has the bio-germ through genetic restructuring. That if he uses it, it lives off the bacteria of air and water and even of oil. If he uses this its possible that the oil could be contaminated very quickly and if that is so then every country in the world would be faced with shutting off the flow of oil to each of there countries. Now without the supply of  fossil fuel, within 180 to 240 days thereafter, about 1.5 billion people would be facing starvation very, very quickly because we need that flow of energy in order to maintain the industrial bases of the world.


[25:15] So, we’ve designed a technology to be very flexible, to be used in every segment of the economy and do it very quickly. So we are all in the same boat and what we are doing is illustrating that yes, the technology is viable, here we do have  a viable technology that we now can use water as a fuel source because water is a very free and abundant fuel source. But its going to take you and I and the guy down the street and the people in each country to bring this technology into the marketplace to stabilize their countries. And so as a result, we developed it under the KISS method, “Keep It Simple Stupid”, to comply with the law of economics, that the guy who comes up with the cheapest way is going to win out. So by decentralizing the mass production of this system and the fabrication of the system, and decentralize the installation of the system, then we should be able to move in a bi-lateral movement through out all the countries of the world to get this type of technology into their countries to stabilize their economic base. If the oil is cut off by these means, or is simply being cut off by a lack of oil that is now showing. Its the same natural pressure that dropped in the Arab fields as I pointed out a little earlier is also occurring in the North Sea. The North Sea pressure has dropped by one third. So we all need the energy and therefore I feel that its going to take the people of the world to come together, and the leaders of each country to come together in one accord in order to allow this type of technology to go into the stabilized economic basis in each respective country.


[26:46] (Interviewer) Do you have any time scale for mass production set up yet? And second, do you have any organization or are you planning an organization, international or..?


[26:56] Yes, I am negotiating with many leaders in different countries of the world. But the ultimate objective is to mobilize the masses of the people in order to bring it in. This is the only way that it can come in. And so as we finalize a debugging of the system, and take it into mass production areas, we can do this by turning the technology over to many many fabricators and people who have certain skills in the machining areas or the mass production areas that will allow this type of technology to be produced very quickly.


[27:29] (Interviewer) Thanks very much for this interview.


[27:31] My pleasure.



[27:33] (Interviewer) We appreciate it very much, thank you.


[27:34] Your welcome.


[film was edited and loops back to a different point in the tape]


[27:45] (Interviewer) Stanley, can you give us some idea about the size of a conversion kit for a car for instance? We see all of these electronics sitting there (the interviewer points to the dune buggy)


Figure 16. - Stan Meyer's dune buggy and its many electronics

Figure 16. - Stan Meyer's dune buggy and its many electronics


[27:53]  (Interviewer continues) but I guess this is not going to be part of a future upgrade kit for a car, is it?


 


[28:00] No. This is the pre-engineering unit in order to satisfy the U.S. code of operability on section 35 section 101, and it was developed as pre-engineering to show to operability of all the different operational parameters of the water fuel cell. But in actuality, the entire technology that you see here, is really reduced down to the water fuel cell injectors you see right here.


 



Figure 17. - Stan Meyer's water fuel cell injector

Figure 17. - Stan Meyer's water fuel cell injector


[28:25]  (Interviewer) This is the only thing needed in upgrading a car? Or is there anything else involved?


[28:29] No, the water fuel cell injector, which replaces the conventional spark plug in an internal combustion engine, this is hooked up to a water tank. Basically, if you have a plastic fuel tank in your car, you simply drain out the gasoline, flush it out, fill it up with fresh water. Then, the water fuel cell injector now allows the water to be transferred. The systems approach allows the water to go into the injector which is now being processed to release the thermo explosive energy from hydrogen.


[29:02] The second part is hooked up, again, is what we refer to as the gas processor.


Figure 18. - Gas processor unit

Figure 18. - Gas processor unit


[29:07] that’s ionizing the gas to allow it to come in. So basically, in retrofit all we are doing is simply tapping off the exhaust gases


Figure 19. - Tapping off of the exhaust gases

Figure 19. - Tapping off of the exhaust gases


[29:13] from the conventional engine, we’re now using the gas processor to utilize the ambient air to ionize the gases which is now mixing with the water which now converts to water fuel. We are allowing the water fuel to go into the injector that’s now plugged into our replacement spark plug and allows the engine now to run off the thermo-explosive energy from hydrogen. So basically, all we are doing is taking the gasoline out of the tank, filling it up with water. We now replace the spark plugs with the water fuel cell injector, and we now hook a small little miniaturized computer which controls and meter mixes the gases going into the engine to allow the engine to accelerate and decelerate. So the installation is a very small, lightweight, compact electronic control system.



 


[30:05]  (Interviewer) Ok, the distributor, is that going to be the same distributor? Or do you have a modified version? Or is there anything additional to it?


[30:11] Yes, we do modify the distributor as is shown over here


 


Figure 20. - Modifications to insert Meyer's Laser Distributor between the distributor cap and distributor assembly

Figure 20. - Modifications to insert Meyer's Laser Distributor between the distributor cap and distributor assembly


[30:17] We simply take of the conventional rotor cap off a conventional engine, and we put the laser distributor in between the distributor assembly and the cap and this (referring to the laser distributor) now sends signals to the computer system which will really be a composite of several integrated circuit chips that miniaturizes the hydrogen computer system.


[30:45] (Interviewer) This whole hydrogen stuff, isn’t it extremely explosive in the car? Is there any danger involved in the safety aspect of it all?


[30:51] No. We’ve actually solved the problem. There is no storage of hydrogen whatsoever. The water goes into the injector, which now allows it to go into a high pulse voltage zone, which performs electrical polarization process – so the water is only being converted into the thermo explosive energy as it enters the injector so the thermo explosive energy is now only occurring inside the engine. So the electronic system is designed to regulate and control the explosion of the energy so now it co-equals that of gasoline so there’s a tremendously fail-safe operable system.



[31:22] (Interviewer) Ok. So its a safe, its a small system


[31:25] Yes.


[31:26] (Interviewer) What about maintenance of the car engine itself? Do we need more maintenance? Is it different? Do we have to modify anything on the maintenance schedule?


[31:36] No. Just keep the same maintenance as you have it. Since your releasing thermal explosive energy into the engine and your co-equaling the burn rate of gasoline, there is very little maintenance. If there is any maintenance at all, we developed the technology years ago that we could really impregnate the cylindrical walls of the engine with Teflon and we can even impregnate treat the bearings and literally run an engine on off of the Teflon and eliminate the oil. If that occurs then, you can use a product something like Slick50 in the engine and if you would need it. But the wear factor, since its a very clean burning fuel, hydrogen is a very clean burning fuel, then the engine oil is not contaminated under the old method of running a gasoline engine or diesel fuel. So its an extremely clean burning fuel.


[film was edited and loops back to a different point in the tape]


[32:35] (Interviewer) Stanley, what about the valves in the engine? Don’t the piston’s burn out because there is no lubrication of the lead or any other additives to the usual gas engine?


[32:44] No. The valves have been designed very recently to operate off of non-leaded gasoline. And since we use the exhaust gases to cycle back in and to modulate the burn rate of hydrogen gas, as we now control the burn rate to co-equal gasoline engine temperature and operations are duplicating the same thing on gasoline or diesel fuels. So you don’t change the engine in anyway. This allows us now to retrofit the water fuel cell technology to any existing engine. And thats very important because it now gives us the ability that we can stabilize transportation as we talked about before if the energy is cut off.



[33:26] (Interviewer) Ok. Now the accelerator. Can I still keep the same mechanical accelerator? Or do you have  a new device for that as well?


[33:31] Yes. We have developed what we call the laser accelerator as you see right here here


Figure 21. - Laser acceleration assembly

Figure 21. - Laser acceleration assembly


 


Figure 21.5 - Mechanics of the laser acceleration assembly

Figure 21.5 - Mechanics of the laser acceleration assembly


[33:45] that simply is attached to the accelerator pedal and as you press the gas pedal down, it displaces the mechanical displacement into electrical impulses which now is fed into the micro miniaturized computer electronics. So, this gives us  the abilities now to control the acceleration. This type of technology has given us the abilities to equal or supersede the performance of acceleration or deceleration of conventional cars running on gasoline or diesel fuel. So the hydrogen being two and half times more powerful then gasoline gives us a tremendous amount of performance over the prior state of the art.


[34:32] It runs very smoothly and it has a very unusual sensation. Generally when your running a car on gasoline, you have this kind of a pause. But when you are running on hydrogen in the way that we’re doing it, its a tremendous, its a constant acceleration. So its an extremely very fast responding fuel source that’s coming from water, from hydrogen.


[34:55] (Interviewer) So your claiming that the performance is equal or better as a normal gasoline car.



[34:59] Oh yes. Definitely. It’ll even start up quicker. In the winter time you are dealing with a liquid gasoline or liquid diesel fuel and you have problems with starting. In cold weather, you don’t freeze gas atoms and so by converting the water into instant energy, it gives us the ability to start the engine very very quickly.


[35:23] (Interviewer) So when you start an engine in the morning for instance, how long does it take before you can drive away?


[35:30] Oh, its an instantaneous start-up. Immediately when the pulse voltage frequency hits the water, it converts it to the gas which now produces the thermo explosive energy so its an instantaneous type of start. The electronic circuit interfacing gives us the abilities to control and meter the amount of water that’s going in on the start condition as opposed on a run condition. So the computer automatically adjusts between the start condition and the run condition. So electronically we have the abilities to adjust for these parameters. And the same as a conventional car, we also have the abilities to adjust for different ambient air conditions going from sea level up into the mountain ranges so automatically the electronic circuitry design gives us the abilities to adjust each parameter and give us a very smooth operational performance.


[36:23] (Interviewer) What about air pressure? I mean when you go up high in the mountains you don’t reduce ambient air there is no improvement on the performance of the car.


[36:36] No, because here we have a device, a metal bellows, which now allows to control the amount of ambient air going into the engine of the car.


Figure 22. - Metal bellows device allowing control over the amount of ambient air going into the engine

Figure 22. - Metal bellows device allowing control over the amount of ambient air going into the engine


[36:51] this automatically allows us to regulate the ambient air pressures going from sea level up into the mountain areas. So electronically these solenoids you see here



Figure 23. - Solenoids with pressure sensors that allows the computer to perform air pressure compensation as needed

Figure 23. - Solenoids with pressure sensors that allows the computer to perform air pressure compensation as needed


[37:02] have sensors that automatically senses the amount of ambient pressures and they are automatically electronically adjusted to compensate for difference of air pressure. So this allows us now to give tremendous good performance going from sea level right on up into the higher mountain regions.


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This blog entry is a follow up to some of my earlier writings about Meyer’s technology including:


http://www.alexpetty.com/2010/09/17/water-as-fuel-with-puharich-and-meyer/


http://www.alexpetty.com/2010/11/17/meyers-gas-core-transformer/


http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/16/overview-of-meyer-wfc-gas-management-unit-electronics/


http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/16/simple-wfc-energization-circuit-by-alex-petty/


http://www.alexpetty.com/2011/06/13/stan-meyer-water-as-fuel-lecture-in-denver-on-may-1997/



For real time discussion about this research, please join my Yahoo group:


http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/meyer_wfc_replication/


So also the web site of my main collaborator and researcher partner Russ Gries:


http://rwgresearch.com/












            


            

         


      
         

            

Overview of Meyer WFC Gas Management Unit Electronics


            June 16th, 2011

            

               

During the next few weeks, I will be working to reverse engineer all of Meyer’s circuits based on the huge amount of photographic evidence which has come into my possession (thanks to my friend and colleague in this research Russ Gries). I now have highly resolved photographs of the front and back sides of all the electronic circuits that made up Meyer’s work. It will therefore now be possible to reverse engineer everything!



For starters:


The rack below is Meyer’s Gas Management Unit (GMS).


Figure 1. - Gas management system

Figure 1. - Meyer's Gas management system


This was the control unit mounted in Meyer’s water powered dune buggy:


Gas Management Unit (GMS) installed in Meyer's water powered dune buggy

Gas Management Unit (GMS) installed in Meyer's water powered dune buggy


Closer shot of the GMS in Meyer's water powered dune buggy

Closer shot of the GMS in Meyer's water powered dune buggy



This rack contains 18 module cards and a cable connection bay with 8 ports.


The card modules are (from left to right):


1) Card Extender


2) Exh Gate


3) Air Gate 1


4) Exhaust


5) Air Gate 2


6) Speed Limit


7) Alarm



8 ) Freq Gen


9) Water Cell


10) Accel


11) Injector 1


12) Injector 2


13) Injector 3


14) Injector 4


15) Dist


16) Dist



17) 10V Power


18 ) 5V Power


 


The cable connection bay contains the ports:


1) Alarm (7 pins)


2) Dist (7 pins)


3) Gate (2 pins)


4) Accel (32 pins)


5) Exhaust Gate (2 pins)



6) TOR (8 pins)


7) DC Power (2 pins)


8 ) VIC Circuit (6 pins)


 


Below are larger view  images of these sections:


1) Card Extender


Figure 2. - Card extender

Figure 2. - Meyer's GMS card extender module


2) Exh Gate


Figure 3. - Exhaust gate

Figure 3. - Meyer's GMS exhaust gate module



3) Air Gate 1


Figure 4. - Air gate card

Figure 4. - Meyer's GMS air gate 1 module


4) Exhaust


Figure5. - Exhaust module

Figure5. - Meyer's GMS exhaust module


5) Air Gate 2


Figure 6. - Air gate 2 module

Figure 6. - Meyer's GMS air gate 2 module


6) Speed Limit



Figure 7. - Speed limit module

Figure 7. - Meyer's speed GMS limit module


7) Alarm


Figure 7. - Meyer's alarm module

Figure 8. - Meyer's GMS alarm module


8 ) Freq Gen


Figure 8. - Meyer's freq generator module

Figure 9. - Meyer's GMS freq generator module


9) Water Cell


Figure 9. - Meyer's GMS water cell module

Figure 10. - Meyer's GMS water cell module



10) Accel


 


Figure 11. - Meyer's GMS accel module

Figure 11. - Meyer's GMS accel module


11) Injector 1


Figure 12. - Meyer's GMS injector 1 module

Figure 12. - Meyer's GMS injector 1 module


12) Injector 2


Figure 13. - Meyer's GMS injector 2 module

Figure 13. - Meyer's GMS injector 2 module


13) Injector 3



Figure 14. - Meyer's GMS injector 3 module

Figure 14. - Meyer's GMS injector 3 module


4) Injector 4


Figure 15. - Meyer's GMS injector 4 module

Figure 15. - Meyer's GMS injector 4 module


15) Dist


Figure 16. - Meyer's GMS dist 1 module

Figure 16. - Meyer's GMS dist 1 module


16) Dist


Figure 17. - Meyer's GMS dist 2 module

Figure 17. - Meyer's GMS dist 2 module



17) 10V Power


Figure 18. - Meyer's GMS 10V power module

Figure 18. - Meyer's GMS 10V power module


18 ) 5V Power


Figure 19. - Meyer's GMS 5V power module

Figure 19. - Meyer's GMS 5V power module


All 8 elements of the cable connection bay can be seen below:


Figure 20. - Meyer's GMS cable connection bay

Figure 20. - Meyer's GMS cable connection bay


1) Alarm (7 pins)



2) Dist (7 pins)


3) Gate (2 pins)


4) Accel (32 pins)


5) Exhaust Gate (2 pins)


6) TOR (8 pins)


7) DC Power (2 pins)


8 ) VIC Circuit (6 pins)


 


The GMS Unit connected to the Voltage Intensifier Unit.



Figure 21. - Meyer's VIC control unit

Figure 21. - Meyer's VIC control unit


This unit was mounted on the back of the water powered dune buggy as shown below.


Figure 22. - Meyer's VIC control unit installed in the rear of the dune buggy

Figure 22. - Meyer's VIC control unit installed in the rear of the dune buggy


This rack contains 11 module cards and a cable connection bay with 12VDC rail terminals,  2 cable connection ports and a power switch.


The card modules are (from left to right):


1) Steam Resonator


2) Resonant Cavity 10


3) Resonant Cavity 9



4) Resonant Cavity 8


5) Resonant Cavity 7


6) Resonant Cavity 6


7) Resonant Cavity 5


8 ) Resonant Cavity 4


9) Resonant Cavity 3


10) Resonant Cavity 2


11) Gas Processor


Each of these cards have identical user interfaces.



ok, that's it from Alex's site.

now, this is one date in time... thus when don got it it may have changed...

also please read over this:

http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/Patents/S.Meyer-The%20Birth%20of%20New%20Technology.pdf

mainly PDF pages 44-96  as it has a lot of good flow charts of the WFC GMS system...

as well as as well as 96-116 for the injector.

The HGG is not in this system ... see, the gas possessor is... ambient air ionizer...

also read this:

http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=283

now, when you get done with all this (should take you a week or 2 to go threw this in detail) let me know and ill gladly answer any more questions... but this should answer most all of them.

good luck! see you back in some weeks :)

God Speed my friend!
~Russ

adys15

RE: Don's Experience With Stan's GMS and VIC Card Unit
« Reply #15, on February 14th, 2012, 12:48 PM »
Thank you verry much Russ,I know Alex's blog i read a lot of cool stuff,including meyers gms,i already began to read gms from SM book,my only problem is why the 2 ''boxes''are conected together because every one of them has his own controls and circuits,and secound the gas output of the cell is enough to run the buggy? or  the gasses(h+o)are mixed with ionized gases from the gas gun...
Russ the gass gun is part of the gms see photo attached...if you want/can ...can you correct my pics..just a quick edit in paint :d
Thanks again for your time and help Russ...P.S:what is going on with the rest of the circuits on ''complecte vic skematic and pcb(work in progress)'' thread.PS2:in 3days i will finish the reading(not 2weeks):)) ...i'm not that slow::P:P:P..ok...Good luck on your work Russ...waiting reply:rolleyes:

~Russ

RE: Don's Experience With Stan's GMS and VIC Card Unit
« Reply #16, on February 15th, 2012, 12:38 AM »
Quote from adys15 on February 14th, 2012, 12:48 PM
Thank you verry much Russ,I know Alex's blog i read a lot of cool stuff,including meyers gms,i already began to read gms from SM book,my only problem is why the 2 ''boxes''are conected together because every one of them has his own controls and circuits,and secound the gas output of the cell is enough to run the buggy? or  the gasses(h+o)are mixed with ionized gases from the gas gun...
Russ the gass gun is part of the gms see photo attached...if you want/can ...can you correct my pics..just a quick edit in paint :d
Thanks again for your time and help Russ...P.S:what is going on with the rest of the circuits on ''complecte vic skematic and pcb(work in progress)'' thread.PS2:in 3days i will finish the reading(not 2weeks):)) ...i'm not that slow::P:P:P..ok...Good luck on your work Russ...waiting reply:rolleyes:
the "hydrogen gas gun" is just that.
 it is a resonant cavity, it uses the same electronics at the resonant cavity WFC.
 the  "hydrogen gas gun" was used to process the H and O...
 the "gas processor" is used to processor (or ionize) ambient air. not H and O, but just ambient air.
the " "hydrogen gas gun" is used for rockets and such...

look at the attached photo... hats a freekin rocket nozzle!!! yeah... what the crap!!!

the more you ionize the gasses the more violent the reaction... in my opinion this is what i think...

using Stans method or "voltrolises" the gasses are already slightly ionized... and also if you read the water injector WFC memo you will also see he stated this again and again.

now. you may be able to read this in 2 days... but its going to take you 2 weeks or longer to grasp it all. you may be 10X smarter than me ( and im really not that smart, just got gods gifts) but i promise you will need to study this for weeks to understand it all. its complicated, yet its not...  this took years to develop. you can not learn it all in 2 days. :) so! read it 10 times, that will take 2 weeks lol  kindly put, if you have questions you need to read it again. its all there! all of it!! :) its crazy how much is there... its all there... you just got to read between the lines some times. and you will see. its all there! :)

questions are good, and its cool to ask!!!

when you understand it all you will see that the 2 units work together... there is things in the GMS that need to be in place for the VIC cards to work... don even told me that one of the frequency cards was missing??? not sure what he meant on that one...

any how i hope this helps.

and also sharky is working on the Circuit now... it all takes time and its all worked in around the family and life events as you can see i have been having a nice time with that one... lol

thanks!! god bless! ~Russ

adys15

RE: Don's Experience With Stan's GMS and VIC Card Unit
« Reply #17, on February 15th, 2012, 07:34 AM »Last edited on February 15th, 2012, 07:38 AM by adys15
Manny manny thanks Russ,today i finished reading GMS too(i am not smarter then no one especially you,if you refering on fully understand all systems then yes..you are right about the time spend)and before i read it i was confusing gas gun with gas processor LOL...thanks that you clarify that thing for me....i was thinking that the gas gun was hidden in that enclosure on top of wfc....anyway is clear now ...!!!Ah!!!and one more thing in the folder gas procesor that i down from your site is shows the gas procesor and hgg and that confused me also...!!.thanks ..you helped me a lot!!!

Dwiman89

RE: Don's Experience With Stan's GMS and VIC Card Unit
« Reply #18, on February 17th, 2012, 07:55 AM »
Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on February 15th, 2012, 12:38 AM
Quote from adys15 on February 14th, 2012, 12:48 PM
Thank you verry much Russ,I know Alex's blog i read a lot of cool stuff,including meyers gms,i already began to read gms from SM book,my only problem is why the 2 ''boxes''are conected together because every one of them has his own controls and circuits,and secound the gas output of the cell is enough to run the buggy? or  the gasses(h+o)are mixed with ionized gases from the gas gun...
Russ the gass gun is part of the gms see photo attached...if you want/can ...can you correct my pics..just a quick edit in paint :d
Thanks again for your time and help Russ...P.S:what is going on with the rest of the circuits on ''complecte vic skematic and pcb(work in progress)'' thread.PS2:in 3days i will finish the reading(not 2weeks):)) ...i'm not that slow::P:P:P..ok...Good luck on your work Russ...waiting reply:rolleyes:
the "hydrogen gas gun" is just that.
 it is a resonant cavity, it uses the same electronics at the resonant cavity WFC.
 the  "hydrogen gas gun" was used to process the H and O...
 the "gas processor" is used to processor (or ionize) ambient air. not H and O, but just ambient air.
the " "hydrogen gas gun" is used for rockets and such...

look at the attached photo... hats a freekin rocket nozzle!!! yeah... what the crap!!!

the more you ionize the gasses the more violent the reaction... in my opinion this is what i think...

using Stans method or "voltrolises" the gasses are already slightly ionized... and also if you read the water injector WFC memo you will also see he stated this again and again.

now. you may be able to read this in 2 days... but its going to take you 2 weeks or longer to grasp it all. you may be 10X smarter than me ( and im really not that smart, just got gods gifts) but i promise you will need to study this for weeks to understand it all. its complicated, yet its not...  this took years to develop. you can not learn it all in 2 days. :) so! read it 10 times, that will take 2 weeks lol  kindly put, if you have questions you need to read it again. its all there! all of it!! :) its crazy how much is there... its all there... you just got to read between the lines some times. and you will see. its all there! :)

questions are good, and its cool to ask!!!

when you understand it all you will see that the 2 units work together... there is things in the GMS that need to be in place for the VIC cards to work... don even told me that one of the frequency cards was missing??? not sure what he meant on that one...

any how i hope this helps.

and also sharky is working on the Circuit now... it all takes time and its all worked in around the family and life events as you can see i have been having a nice time with that one... lol

thanks!! god bless! ~Russ
Hey Russ,

Its nice to see your dedication to this project in this tread. It shows in your words.  I was reading the above reply and it raised a question for me. I saw several of your videos where you where testing the "quencher" and producing hydrogen. I wasnt clear on this or not...
 
   Did you get any conclusive evidence of the reaction being stronger using ionization?

Also, exactly how much HHO is speculated to be required to run an average engine? I havent been able to find any numbers on that, weather ionized or not.  

Also, this tread got me thinking of an idea. What if we start a thread to strictly and objectively catalog all facts and conclusions that supports the technology.  Im not talking about possibly feasible ideas  that are drawn from stans documentation. But any known facts and figures that are conclusive in some way, either through experimentation, or third party, non-biased research. Black and white, concrete data.

Just an idea. I think it would be encouraging to read and keep up with, and also be a good way to answer things for skeptics.

Thanks,
Derrick  


HMS-776

RE: Don's Experience With Stan's GMS and VIC Card Unit
« Reply #19, on February 18th, 2012, 06:24 PM »
I have spoke to many who have replicated Meyer and achieved resonance. It seems everyone is getting an AC waveform across their cell. Now, Puharich used AC in his cell but his claimed efficiencies were less than 100%. There is something that is not working right here....

Some interesting facts which effect the VIC circuit:
Square waves are full of harmonics.
The water capacitor is a non-linear load which will generate harmonics.
The diode also is a non linear load which can generate harmonics.
RE: Don's Experience With Stan's GMS and VIC Card Unit
« Reply #20, on February 18th, 2012, 06:24 PM »Last edited on February 22nd, 2012, 05:40 PM by HMS-776
I have spoke to many who have replicated Meyer and achieved resonance. It seems everyone is getting an AC waveform across their cell but producing no gas. Now, Puharich used AC in his cell but his claimed efficiencies were less than 100%. There is something that is not working right here....

Some interesting facts which effect the VIC circuit:
Square waves are full of harmonics.
The water capacitor is a non-linear load which will generate harmonics.
The diode also is a non linear load which can generate harmonics.

waterfreak

RE: Don's Experience With Stan's GMS and VIC Card Unit
« Reply #21, on February 21st, 2012, 12:33 AM »
Quote from HMS-776 on February 18th, 2012, 06:24 PM
I have spoke to many who have replicated Meyer and achieved resonance. It seems everyone is getting an AC waveform across their cell. Now, Puharich used AC in his cell but his claimed efficiencies were less than 100%. There is something that is not working right here....

Some interesting facts which effect the VIC circuit:
Square waves are full of harmonics.
The water capacitor is a non-linear load which will generate harmonics.
The diode also is a non linear load which can generate harmonics.
Another individual who seems to know a lot more than they discuss is Artinvegas. He claims to have almost the entire system operational. It would be most helpful if he could give points into the right direction...

~Russ

RE: Don's Experience With Stan's GMS and VIC Card Unit
« Reply #22, on February 21st, 2012, 04:18 AM »
Quote from waterfreak on February 21st, 2012, 12:33 AM
Quote from HMS-776 on February 18th, 2012, 06:24 PM
I have spoke to many who have replicated Meyer and achieved resonance. It seems everyone is getting an AC waveform across their cell. Now, Puharich used AC in his cell but his claimed efficiencies were less than 100%. There is something that is not working right here....

Some interesting facts which effect the VIC circuit:
Square waves are full of harmonics.
The water capacitor is a non-linear load which will generate harmonics.
The diode also is a non linear load which can generate harmonics.
Another individual who seems to know a lot more than they discuss is Artinvegas. He claims to have almost the entire system operational. It would be most helpful if he could give points into the right direction...
he is here, but i think he is working on the water spark plug injector...

??

~Russ

HMS-776

RE: Don's Experience With Stan's GMS and VIC Card Unit
« Reply #23, on February 22nd, 2012, 05:38 PM »Last edited on February 22nd, 2012, 05:46 PM by HMS-776
Artinvegas posted a bit on the yahoo WFC group. He said a while back is that the VIC actually uses AC to split the water....Puharich's circuit is very similiar and he states in his video lecture that it is a form of AC electrolysis....However, IMO all of Meyer's documents point in the direction of DC resonant charging.

Applying HV to water while limiting current will generate ions in the cell.  The ions are polarized by the applied voltage....If allowed (by limiting current) the voltage generated by the ions in the water becomes high enough to generate more ions and the voltage (and ion production) in the cell goes into a runaway condition. When the cell is switched off the electrons are actually pulled out of the SS. As the electrons neutralize the ions the voltage drops. The neutral atoms then join to form H2 and O2 which leaves the water as a gas.

Just my opinion....

Heuristicobfuscation

RE: Don's Experience With Stan's GMS and VIC Card Unit
« Reply #24, on September 5th, 2013, 04:57 PM »
this is excellent post ....  

does anybody know the microchips numbers?
Stan has very good electronic diagrams but does not show the chips he used...

Example in the PLL circuit he shows numbers sequence for the chips like A28---A29----or A30.. but this is like general diagram it shows no real value ...
maybe these numbers are a reference for more detailed paper?