Ignition coil driven by ZK-PP2K

Belfior

Ignition coil driven by ZK-PP2K
« on July 2nd, 2020, 12:26 PM »
Did not post a link to ZK-PP2K, since the first hit will suffice from google. Trying to drive an ignition coil with that.

Now the PP2K unit looks very simple, so I am just wondering what kinda extra protection do I need for hooking the unit to drive an ignition coil? I guess I will solder a snubber diode over the primary of the ignition coil?

Now the ignition coil secondary will have something like 30kV in it. Can I run the secondary HV terminal to a spark plug and then back to the ignition coil negative? PP2K is also hooked into that negate. Can it get zapped?

Do I have other options? Like from HV terminal to air core transformer primary and from the other end of the primary to earth ground?



Belfior

Re: Ignition coil driven by ZK-PP2K
« Reply #2, on July 5th, 2020, 04:50 AM »
ok burned the first unit... Was driving a primary coil just with the module and I think I had too few windings... Even melted the wire insuation... oh well. ordered 3 more

Belfior

Re: Ignition coil driven by ZK-PP2K
« Reply #3, on July 27th, 2020, 01:03 AM »
Quote from Belfior on July 5th, 2020, 04:50 AM
ok burned the first unit... Was driving a primary coil just with the module and I think I had too few windings... Even melted the wire insuation... oh well. ordered 3 more
Got 3 more of those ZK-PP2K drivers. This time I will have a snubber cross the ignition coil primary

--Oz--

Re: Ignition coil driven by ZK-PP2K
« Reply #4, on September 16th, 2020, 02:07 PM »Last edited on September 16th, 2020, 02:10 PM
Instead of risking the nice module, why not add a 50 cent drive fet? This way you save your controller. I have a bag of IRFZ48N that would be a good starter.

Also, you could use a $1.5 module from Aliexpress and the fet to do the same thing.
https://aliexpress.ru/item/32867909072.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.264d33edveyZWm&_ga=2.109787973.1911610665.1600290508-1583380981.1579731149


--Oz--

Re: Ignition coil driven by ZK-PP2K
« Reply #6, on September 21st, 2020, 04:42 PM »Last edited on December 6th, 2020, 07:04 PM
Pretty simple, most car coils are 9v, so when starting the car they bypass the resistor to get full voltage, that is why i wrote 9v. Heatsink the fet and watch your temp on the coil, let us know how it goes.
Well cant upload a image, whats wrong with this site?
simply, output of freq gen to gate, source to ground, drain to coil (-), coil + to 9v.



Lynx

Re: Ignition coil driven by ZK-PP2K
« Reply #9, on September 22nd, 2020, 11:47 AM »
I think I see what you mean.
If you hit "Preview" then you get the option to attach say a file or an image, but first you have to hit preview.
I really don't know if there's a quick fix to that, I'll see if someone else has a clue ;-)

--Oz--

Re: Ignition coil driven by ZK-PP2K
« Reply #10, on September 22nd, 2020, 12:30 PM »Last edited on September 22nd, 2020, 12:38 PM
Some car coils have a common to both coils on the plus terminal (as in my schematic), some on the negative terminal, but they still work the same.

Remember, the HV output needs a load, the voltage needs to go somewhere, like a sparkgap, the closer the spark gap the better for your coil, if you run it open circuit, over time it can destroy your coil, basically, the secondary insulation will breakdown and then the spark will be inside and useless.

Check out my 3 million rpm video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQE05T-3680&t.


Belfior

Re: Ignition coil driven by ZK-PP2K
« Reply #12,  »
Thx to all you guys for assistance! My lab is currently still in moving boxes in storage, so my experiments are done mostly inside my head. No burned equipment yet ;)

I got interested again when Master Ivo finally stumbled into my field of interest which is pumping charge from the earth ground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbHDHiAQrrs

I went through all my Don Smith material again and tried to decipher his speach and devices. He kinda points people at the right direction, but very often he out right lies and shows devices and schematics that just don't make any sense. He was in the business of making money, so why give the secrets away?

I was bashed hard in overunity forum for suggesting that you can charge caps from the earth ground and use that energy to power loads. Now Ivo showed that it can be actually done. This made me pick up my notebook after 3 years and start working on the device and principle again

Belfior

Re: Ignition coil driven by ZK-PP2K
« Reply #13,  »
Do I need to implement a gate resistor, pulldown resitor and maybe a diode over the primary coil? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UJkHL-6mn8s/maxresdefault.jpg

Can I use one power source for the control circuit and the primary coil? Maybe with some protective diodes so the collapsing field in the coil does not zap the battery or the control circuit?

securesupplies

Re: Ignition coil driven by ZK-PP2K
« Reply #14,  »

Hi All

Any Ideas on circuit diagram on
How Stan Triggered his Round bobbin to the spark plug ?

Belfior

Re: Ignition coil driven by ZK-PP2K
« Reply #15,  »
Please do not highjack my thread!

It seems my PWM (ZK-PP2K) already has a MOSFET inside it, so I don't need to get an extra one.

Maybe I need to use a ZVS and not the ignition coil



--Oz--

Re: Ignition coil driven by ZK-PP2K
« Reply #17,  »
Quote from Belfior on August 4th, 2023, 03:14 AM
Do I need to implement a gate resistor, pulldown resitor and maybe a diode over the primary coil? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/UJkHL-6mn8s/maxresdefault.jpg

Can I use one power source for the control circuit and the primary coil? Maybe with some protective diodes so the collapsing field in the coil does not zap the battery or the control circuit?
You do not want a diode across the primary, this will kill the energy that is going to the secondary.