What if we think of the fuel cell as a lake? What if we inject photons thru a light guide (fiber optic?) thru the top of the cell and onto the lake? (see solar patent) What if we form a cloud in the top section of the cell and call it a voltage zone? What if we can use some of the contacts on the side of the fuel cell to discharge the clouds and call it lightning? What if we collect the lightning into a giant transformer core and call it the EPG?
What if?
What if we think of the fuel cell as a lake? What if we inject photons thru a light guide (fiber optic?) thru the top of the cell and onto the lake? (see solar patent) What if we form a cloud in the top section of the cell and call it a voltage zone? What if we can use some of the contacts on the side of the fuel cell to discharge the clouds and call it lightning? What if we collect the lightning into a giant transformer core and call it the EPG?
The only other device I have ever seen the seems to have produced eletrical output that may be similar to what we are wanting to do with the EPG is a man named Daniel Dingle from the Phillipines. He too had a car that ran on water. He claimed to have been running on vehicles on water since the 60's. His reactor seems to produce fairly large bubbles with the flick of a switch. I had wondered if he used soap to create the large bubbles and wondered if the larger bubbles would be the hydrogen and the smaller the oxygen? I had wondered if he was popping the larger bubbles somehow? Stan said the tech would come out in a time of trouble and I now wonder if the water in the Phillipines may contain elevated fallout particles? Dutch from St Louis just measured some elevated levels in the snow at his home. Probably from Fucashima. Others on this forum discuss mixing the contents in the Epg maybe to recreate bubbles? One of the guys that worked with Mr Dingle also claims he used a bismith honeycomb material. From what I understand bismuth is an effective magnetic field block. It may be a good idea to collect some snow for testing? Mr Dingle also had a device he used to test the gas that I thought was clever. He filled a siringe with the gas and had an ignition spark device then I guess he could measure the height of the plunger to determine the strengh of the gas. Kind of like a mini potato gun. Just a couple of thoughts
The only other device I have ever seen the seems to have produced eletrical output that may be similar to what we are wanting to do with the EPG is a man named Daniel Dingle from the Phillipines. He too had a car that ran on water. He claimed to have been running on vehicles on water since the 60's. His reactor seems to produce fairly large bubbles with the flick of a switch. I had wondered if he used soap to create the large bubbles and wondered if the larger bubbles would be the hydrogen and the smaller the oxygen? I had wondered if he was popping the larger bubbles somehow? Stan said the tech would come out in a time of trouble and I now wonder if the water in the Phillipines may contain elevated fallout particles? Dutch from St Louis just measured some elevated levels in the snow at his home. Probably from Fucashima. Others on this forum discuss mixing the contents in the Epg maybe to recreate bubbles? One of the guys that worked with Mr Dingle also claims he used a bismith honeycomb material. From what I understand bismuth is an effective magnetic field block. It may be a good idea to collect some snow for testing? Mr Dingle also had a device he used to test the gas that I thought was clever. He filled a siringe with the gas and had an ignition spark device then I guess he could measure the height of the plunger to determine the strengh of the gas. Kind of like a mini potato gun. Just a couple of thoughts
What if you had a pipe and wrapped a coil around the outside insulated from contact to the pipe. You then put a neg. charge on the pipe. You fed neg charged soap bubbles in one end then fed a positive charged soap bubble in the other end? Then started to compress? I see the neg. bubbles attracted to the neg pipe and the pos. bubbles going down the center of the pipe? As the bubbles pass in traverse directions would they spin? Would the interaction create a magnetic field? Borax is Sodium tetraborate. Arm and hammer washing soda is Sodium Carbonate. I also see an off brand Arcoiis with Sodium Sulfate and Sodium Silicate? If sodium is dried up sea water would some photon energy be stored in it? I recall Stan saying if a horse would not drink give him a little salt. Any thoughts?
What if you had a pipe and wrapped a coil around the outside insulated from contact to the pipe. You then put a neg. charge on the pipe. You fed neg charged soap bubbles in one end then fed a positive charged soap bubble in the other end? Then started to compress? I see the neg. bubbles attracted to the neg pipe and the pos. bubbles going down the center of the pipe? As the bubbles pass in traverse directions would they spin? Would the interaction create a magnetic field? Borax is Sodium tetraborate. Arm and hammer washing soda is Sodium Carbonate. I also see an off brand Arcoiis with Sodium Sulfate and Sodium Silicate? If sodium is dried up sea water would some photon energy be stored in it? I recall Stan saying if a horse would not drink give him a little salt. Any thoughts?
Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmtzVITUWgk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=ULQuote from Blazer on February 8th, 2012, 07:43 AM What if we think of the fuel cell as a lake? What if we inject photons thru a light guide (fiber optic?) thru the top of the cell and onto the lake? (see solar patent) What if we form a cloud in the top section of the cell and call it a voltage zone? What if we can use some of the contacts on the side of the fuel cell to discharge the clouds and call it lightning? What if we collect the lightning into a giant transformer core and call it the EPG?
Thanks for sharing that Utube. I recommend everyone watch all seven or so of his videos. I Hope others have studied Leedskin. Fascinating stuff.
Just a side obsrvation Pooles videos and his insight is to:
When Testing an EPG:
Take note of the orientation of the centre section:
Which way is it pointing NORTH, SOUTH, EAST And WEST.
I think your on to something with your thinking. The Light and correlation to magnetism and electric charge. I am interested in more on where your going with it.
Cheers Martin
Thanks Martin. This thread is about brainstorming. I feel between all of us we hold pieces to make it happen. Hopefully what someone post will resonate with someone else to which progress is made. I would encourage others to put the puzzle pieces on the table for all to see. To remain "in the box" is what we have all been programed to do since childhood. As we study Tesla, Leedskalion, Russel to name a few we have a lot to learn and new concepts to grasp. Yesterday I watched a vid with a guy working on Meyers stuff and he had burnt out his power supply from what he thought to be a back EMF spikes. So my question is was Stan rechargeing the battery with back spikes. Thats how Bendini charges his batteries. Could a battery be an "Amp consuming device"? Just some thoughts.
Thanks Martin. This thread is about brainstorming. I feel between all of us we hold pieces to make it happen. Hopefully what someone post will resonate with someone else to which progress is made. I would encourage others to put the puzzle pieces on the table for all to see. To remain "in the box" is what we have all been programed to do since childhood. As we study Tesla, Leedskalion, Russel to name a few we have a lot to learn and new concepts to grasp. Yesterday I watched a vid with a guy working on Meyers stuff and he had burnt out his power supply from what he thought to be a back EMF spikes. So my question is was Stan rechargeing the battery with back spikes. Thats how Bendini charges his batteries. Could a battery be an "Amp consuming device"? Just some thoughts.
What if the gas processor was allowed to build up gas pressure then lower the water level to below the top of the tubes and then a corona is created at the top of the tube and converts much of the oxyen into ozone. Since the ozone decreases the volume of the oxygen the water table rises as pressure reduces. I was always under the impression Stans process would sterilize the water put thru and one of the only ways I know is ozone. If we look at ozone as a compressed oxygen I think will expand in atmospheric oxygen. see patent 1096991 Is it possible for the ozone to be reabsorbed in the water or converted as the oxygen componant? Would said water dissacociate at a very rapid rate due to its unstable nature?
What if the gas processor was allowed to build up gas pressure then lower the water level to below the top of the tubes and then a corona is created at the top of the tube and converts much of the oxyen into ozone. Since the ozone decreases the volume of the oxygen the water table rises as pressure reduces. I was always under the impression Stans process would sterilize the water put thru and one of the only ways I know is ozone. If we look at ozone as a compressed oxygen I think will expand in atmospheric oxygen. see patent 1096991 Is it possible for the ozone to be reabsorbed in the water or converted as the oxygen componant? Would said water dissacociate at a very rapid rate due to its unstable nature?
What if the gas processor was allowed to build up gas pressure then lower the water level to below the top of the tubes and then a corona is created at the top of the tube and converts much of the oxyen into ozone. Since the ozone decreases the volume of the oxygen the water table rises as pressure reduces. I was always under the impression Stans process would sterilize the water put thru and one of the only ways I know is ozone. If we look at ozone as a compressed oxygen I think will expand in atmospheric oxygen. see patent 1096991 Is it possible for the ozone to be reabsorbed in the water or converted as the oxygen componant? Would said water dissacociate at a very rapid rate due to its unstable nature?
What if we look at the gas processer also as a vortex generator? Ever thought why 10 tubes hooked and 1 not? To even get a vortex to start would it be more efficient to have a void? I am not sure of what kind of fields would be emmitted from the tubes be it repulsive or attraction but surely something? Would not the heavier be forced to the outside thus only the lighter water to be recyled thru? Now if you hit the center with a laser or photons from a light guide What would be the effect? If gases in the water were continued to be recycled until they overcome the inertia they could be exposed to the light energy multiple times? May even be the best way to harvest the most unstable without haveing to build pressure in the cell? It seems the processer would self regulate. To much spin or to much pressure it pushes air out the bottom of the vortex? Any thoughts?
Blazer
RE: What if?
« Reply #13, on March 2nd, 2012, 06:34 AM »Last edited on March 3rd, 2012, 07:49 AM by Blazer
What if we look at the Water fuel cell also as a vortex generator? Ever thought why 10 tubes hooked and 1 not? To even get a vortex to start would it be more efficient to have a void? I am not sure of what kind of fields would be emmitted from the tubes be it repulsive or attraction but surely something? Would not the heavier be forced to the outside thus only the lighter water to be recyled thru? Now if you hit the center with a laser or photons from a light guide What would be the effect? If gases in the water were continued to be recycled until they overcome the inertia they could be exposed to the light energy multiple times? May even be the best way to harvest the most unstable without haveing to build pressure in the cell? It seems the processer would self regulate. To much spin or to much pressure it pushes air out the bottom of the vortex? Any thoughts?
What if we look at the Water fuel cell also as a vortex generator? Ever thought why 10 tubes hooked and 1 not? To even get a vortex to start would it be more efficient to have a void? I am not sure of what kind of fields would be emmitted from the tubes be it repulsive or attraction but surely something? Would not the heavier be forced to the outside thus only the lighter water to be recyled thru? Now if you hit the center with a laser or photons from a light guide What would be the effect? If gases in the water were continued to be recycled until they overcome the inertia they could be exposed to the light energy multiple times? May even be the best way to harvest the most unstable without haveing to build pressure in the cell? It seems the processer would self regulate. To much spin or to much pressure it pushes air out the bottom of the vortex? Any thoughts?
In one of Stans talks he refers to the engine as also an air pump? I find that wording may be a clue, notice pump and not air compresser? Will an engine be required to compress the gases to ignite them? The VW is about 7 to 1 compression ratio. If the engine is not required to compress the gas that would allow added efficiency. I have heard of some aircraft engines as low as 5 1/2 to 1. What if we remove the exhaust valve and replace it with a fixed quenching disk? Exhaust valves are the hottest part on an engine. The quenching disk would have to probably allow for lots of flow. So if we allow say 75% of the exaust gas to flow thru and out to the mufler then allowed 25% of the exhaust to be sucked back into the engine during the intake stroke. Any water trying to exhaust would turn to steam as it hit the disk, then returned to be burned again. My thought on the one way valve would be a one way flapper or spring loaded or possiblty timed. For all we know Stan may have exhausted one cylinder into another. The intake valve could also probably be set up as a one way valve thus eliminating the resistance of the valve springs all together.
In one of Stans talks he refers to the engine as also an air pump? I find that wording may be a clue, notice pump and not air compresser? Will an engine be required to compress the gases to ignite them? The VW is about 7 to 1 compression ratio. If the engine is not required to compress the gas that would allow added efficiency. I have heard of some aircraft engines as low as 5 1/2 to 1. What if we remove the exhaust valve and replace it with a fixed quenching disk? Exhaust valves are the hottest part on an engine. The quenching disk would have to probably allow for lots of flow. So if we allow say 75% of the exaust gas to flow thru and out to the mufler then allowed 25% of the exhaust to be sucked back into the engine during the intake stroke. Any water trying to exhaust would turn to steam as it hit the disk, then returned to be burned again. My thought on the one way valve would be a one way flapper or spring loaded or possiblty timed. For all we know Stan may have exhausted one cylinder into another. The intake valve could also probably be set up as a one way valve thus eliminating the resistance of the valve springs all together.
I just read the thread on ossilation and had a what if? Ever notice the cb radio in stans buggy? Ever notice that he moved the location of the anttenea? Ever notice the close up shot in Stans vid of what appear to be 2 broadcasting anteneas (on a decal). He shows that decal not once but twice. Ever notice one of tubes as shown in a top down photo different than the rest (cleaner or different metal) In Stans first start video have you ever noticed his helper always keeps a firm grip on the frame of the buggy. Is he acting as an antennea? What if Stan had put some chryistals inside the inside tube? You know I can not help but think there has got to be some vortex forces inside that inside tube but that is a whole new What If.
Blazer
RE: What if?
« Reply #18, on March 10th, 2012, 09:14 AM »Last edited on March 10th, 2012, 09:50 AM by Blazer
I just read the thread on ossilation and had a what if? Ever notice the cb radio in stans buggy? Ever notice that he moved the location of the anttenea? Ever notice the close up shot in Stans vid of what appear to be 2 broadcasting anteneas (on a decal). He shows that decal not once but twice. Ever notice one of tubes as shown in a top down photo different than the rest (cleaner or different metal) In Stans first start video have you ever noticed his helper always keeps a firm grip on the frame of the buggy. Is he acting as an antennea? What if Stan had put some chryistals inside the inside tube? You know I can not help but think there has got to be some vortex forces inside that inside tube but that is a whole new What If.
Quote from Blazer on March 10th, 2012, 09:14 AM He always said we had to "tune in to the properties of water". Ever notice that flat plate with the very small hole on top of his cell? Is that for a magnetic base and the hole for a coaxial center of an antennea?
I just read the thread on ossilation and had a what if? Ever notice the cb radio in stans buggy? Ever notice that he moved the location of the anttenea? Ever notice the close up shot in Stans vid of what appear to be 2 broadcasting anteneas (on a decal). He shows that decal not once but twice. Ever notice one of tubes as shown in a top down photo different than the rest (cleaner or different metal) In Stans first start video have you ever noticed his helper always keeps a firm grip on the frame of the buggy. Is he acting as an antennea? What if Stan had put some chryistals inside the inside tube? You know I can not help but think there has got to be some vortex forces inside that inside tube but that is a whole new What If.
I just read the thread on ossilation and had a what if? Ever notice the cb radio in stans buggy? Ever notice that he moved the location of the anttenea? Ever notice the close up shot in Stans vid of what appear to be 2 broadcasting anteneas (on a decal). He shows that decal not once but twice. Ever notice one of tubes as shown in a top down photo different than the rest (cleaner or different metal) In Stans first start video have you ever noticed his helper always keeps a firm grip on the frame of the buggy. Is he acting as an antennea? What if Stan had put some chryistals inside the inside tube? You know I can not help but think there has got to be some vortex forces inside that inside tube but that is a whole new What If.He always said we had to "tune in to the properties of water". Ever notice that flat plate with the very small hole on top of his cell? Is that for a magnetic base and the hole for a coaxial center of an antennea?Quote from Blazer on March 10th, 2012, 09:14 AM I just read the thread on ossilation and had a what if? Ever notice the cb radio in stans buggy? Ever notice that he moved the location of the anttenea? Ever notice the close up shot in Stans vid of what appear to be 2 broadcasting anteneas (on a decal). He shows that decal not once but twice. Ever notice one of tubes as shown in a top down photo different than the rest (cleaner or different metal) In Stans first start video have you ever noticed his helper always keeps a firm grip on the frame of the buggy. Is he acting as an antennea? What if Stan had put some chryistals inside the inside tube? You know I can not help but think there has got to be some vortex forces inside that inside tube but that is a whole new What If.
Blazer
RE: What if?
« Reply #20, on March 10th, 2012, 04:58 PM »Last edited on March 10th, 2012, 05:22 PM by Blazer
Blazer do you have a link to that?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va9lXU62m9EQuote from Blazer on March 10th, 2012, 09:14 AM I just read the thread on ossilation and had a what if? Ever notice the cb radio in stans buggy? Ever notice that he moved the location of the anttenea? Ever notice the close up shot in Stans vid of what appear to be 2 broadcasting anteneas (on a decal). He shows that decal not once but twice. Ever notice one of tubes as shown in a top down photo different than the rest (cleaner or different metal) In Stans first start video have you ever noticed his helper always keeps a firm grip on the frame of the buggy. Is he acting as an antennea? What if Stan had put some chryistals inside the inside tube? You know I can not help but think there has got to be some vortex forces inside that inside tube but that is a whole new What If.He always said we had to "tune in to the properties of water". Ever notice that flat plate with the very small hole on top of his cell? Is that for a magnetic base and the hole for a coaxial center of an antennea?Quote from Blazer on March 10th, 2012, 09:14 AM I just read the thread on ossilation and had a what if? Ever notice the cb radio in stans buggy? Ever notice that he moved the location of the anttenea? Ever notice the close up shot in Stans vid of what appear to be 2 broadcasting anteneas (on a decal). He shows that decal not once but twice. Ever notice one of tubes as shown in a top down photo different than the rest (cleaner or different metal) In Stans first start video have you ever noticed his helper always keeps a firm grip on the frame of the buggy. Is he acting as an antennea? What if Stan had put some chryistals inside the inside tube? You know I can not help but think there has got to be some vortex forces inside that inside tube but that is a whole new What If.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va9lXU62m9E
Blazer do you have a link to that?Quote from Blazer on March 10th, 2012, 09:14 AM I just read the thread on ossilation and had a what if? Ever notice the cb radio in stans buggy? Ever notice that he moved the location of the anttenea? Ever notice the close up shot in Stans vid of what appear to be 2 broadcasting anteneas (on a decal). He shows that decal not once but twice. Ever notice one of tubes as shown in a top down photo different than the rest (cleaner or different metal) In Stans first start video have you ever noticed his helper always keeps a firm grip on the frame of the buggy. Is he acting as an antennea? What if Stan had put some chryistals inside the inside tube? You know I can not help but think there has got to be some vortex forces inside that inside tube but that is a whole new What If.He always said we had to "tune in to the properties of water". Ever notice that flat plate with the very small hole on top of his cell? Is that for a magnetic base and the hole for a coaxial center of an antennea?Quote from Blazer on March 10th, 2012, 09:14 AM I just read the thread on ossilation and had a what if? Ever notice the cb radio in stans buggy? Ever notice that he moved the location of the anttenea? Ever notice the close up shot in Stans vid of what appear to be 2 broadcasting anteneas (on a decal). He shows that decal not once but twice. Ever notice one of tubes as shown in a top down photo different than the rest (cleaner or different metal) In Stans first start video have you ever noticed his helper always keeps a firm grip on the frame of the buggy. Is he acting as an antennea? What if Stan had put some chryistals inside the inside tube? You know I can not help but think there has got to be some vortex forces inside that inside tube but that is a whole new What If.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Y-p1BbwUA
Here is the link for the 2 antenea decal also look at the code number inbetween. It comes up the first time at 8:30 and the second at 8:50. I posted the first run link a couple of minutes ago but it dissappearded? Any way if you type first run stan meyer it comes up on Utube.
Hey Jeff I am having a problem posting so I will try a new message here. Here is the link for the anntenea decal 8:30 and 8:50 If you type " Stan Meyer first run" the other comes up on Utube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Y-p1BbwUA.
Hi Jeff here is the first run vid I will look for the other one. Watch how they are keeping a grip on the frame. Not sure if he is wearing rubber overshoes?Quote from Jeff Nading on March 10th, 2012, 01:02 PM Blazer do you have a link to that?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va9lXU62m9EQuote from Blazer on March 10th, 2012, 09:14 AM I just read the thread on ossilation and had a what if? Ever notice the cb radio in stans buggy? Ever notice that he moved the location of the anttenea? Ever notice the close up shot in Stans vid of what appear to be 2 broadcasting anteneas (on a decal). He shows that decal not once but twice. Ever notice one of tubes as shown in a top down photo different than the rest (cleaner or different metal) In Stans first start video have you ever noticed his helper always keeps a firm grip on the frame of the buggy. Is he acting as an antennea? What if Stan had put some chryistals inside the inside tube? You know I can not help but think there has got to be some vortex forces inside that inside tube but that is a whole new What If.He always said we had to "tune in to the properties of water". Ever notice that flat plate with the very small hole on top of his cell? Is that for a magnetic base and the hole for a coaxial center of an antennea?Quote from Blazer on March 10th, 2012, 09:14 AM I just read the thread on ossilation and had a what if? Ever notice the cb radio in stans buggy? Ever notice that he moved the location of the anttenea? Ever notice the close up shot in Stans vid of what appear to be 2 broadcasting anteneas (on a decal). He shows that decal not once but twice. Ever notice one of tubes as shown in a top down photo different than the rest (cleaner or different metal) In Stans first start video have you ever noticed his helper always keeps a firm grip on the frame of the buggy. Is he acting as an antennea? What if Stan had put some chryistals inside the inside tube? You know I can not help but think there has got to be some vortex forces inside that inside tube but that is a whole new What If.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va9lXU62m9EQuote from Jeff Nading on March 10th, 2012, 01:02 PM Blazer do you have a link to that?Quote from Blazer on March 10th, 2012, 09:14 AM I just read the thread on ossilation and had a what if? Ever notice the cb radio in stans buggy? Ever notice that he moved the location of the anttenea? Ever notice the close up shot in Stans vid of what appear to be 2 broadcasting anteneas (on a decal). He shows that decal not once but twice. Ever notice one of tubes as shown in a top down photo different than the rest (cleaner or different metal) In Stans first start video have you ever noticed his helper always keeps a firm grip on the frame of the buggy. Is he acting as an antennea? What if Stan had put some chryistals inside the inside tube? You know I can not help but think there has got to be some vortex forces inside that inside tube but that is a whole new What If.He always said we had to "tune in to the properties of water". Ever notice that flat plate with the very small hole on top of his cell? Is that for a magnetic base and the hole for a coaxial center of an antennea?Quote from Blazer on March 10th, 2012, 09:14 AM I just read the thread on ossilation and had a what if? Ever notice the cb radio in stans buggy? Ever notice that he moved the location of the anttenea? Ever notice the close up shot in Stans vid of what appear to be 2 broadcasting anteneas (on a decal). He shows that decal not once but twice. Ever notice one of tubes as shown in a top down photo different than the rest (cleaner or different metal) In Stans first start video have you ever noticed his helper always keeps a firm grip on the frame of the buggy. Is he acting as an antennea? What if Stan had put some chryistals inside the inside tube? You know I can not help but think there has got to be some vortex forces inside that inside tube but that is a whole new What If.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Y-p1BbwUA
Here is the link for the 2 antenea decal also look at the code number inbetween. It comes up the first time at 8:30 and the second at 8:50. I posted the first run link a couple of minutes ago but it dissappearded? Any way if you type first run stan meyer it comes up on Utube.
Hey Jeff I am having a problem posting so I will try a new message here. Here is the link for the anntenea decal 8:30 and 8:50 If you type " Stan Meyer first run" the other comes up on Utube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Y-p1BbwUA.