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##### Calculating the Caloric BTU Value of Water Fuel Gas Nano Bubble GTNT Water Fuel
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Calculating the Caloric BTU Value of Water Fuel Gas Nano Bubble GTNT Water Fuel

Thermal Heat of Combustion

Water / gallon ........... 57,000 BTU'S approx.

Gasoline / gallon ....... 22,800 BTU'S approx.

#### warj1990

##### Re: Calculating the Caloric BTU Value of Water Fuel Gas Nano Bubble GTNT Water Fuel
Not trying to be negative here, but if I see Gasoline as 22,800 BTU again as a standard I'm going to throw up.

We now have google and can quickly solve this.

(Gasoline is many strands of H-C chains, not just one)

W.

#### warj1990

##### Re: Calculating the Caloric BTU Value of Water Fuel Gas Nano Bubble GTNT Water Fuel
Ok,

I see the above link and will attempt this on time:

See this link for how much hydrogen is in a Gallon of water:

So we have about 1 pound of hydrogen per GALLON of water.
So the above link shows 51,591 BTU/LB for Hydrogen.  (Using the LHV as it would be in a car)

Now the above link shows the LHV of GASOLINE as 18,659 BTU/LB

To make this apples to apples:  One gallon of gasoline is about 6 LB.

Gasoline: 1 gallon = 6 lbs  = 111,954 BTU/ gallon (a little off due to rounding)
Water:      1 gallon = 1 lb hydrogen.  51,591 BTU/ gallon.

So Gallon VS. Gallon Gasoline is 2x water.

In the first post:

" Thermal Heat of Combustion "
" Water / gallon ........... 57,000 BTU'S approx. "     - Correct
" Gasoline / gallon ....... 22,800 BTU'S approx. "    - Wrong.  This is Gasoline / LB,  Not GALLON !

Gasoline / gallon = about 122,000 BTU

Hope this clarifies

W.

#### securesupplies

##### Re: Calculating the Caloric BTU Value of Water Fuel Gas Nano Bubble GTNT Water Fuel

We are talking about the working yield

Thermal Heat of Combustion

DOCUMENT NUMBERS ARE  RIGHT and conservative Hydrogen is Better FACT

GASOLINE IS OVER

Like always people get shocked when they realize they have be lied too
the whole time this is why I released the document.
##### Re: Calculating the Caloric BTU Value of Water Fuel Gas Nano Bubble GTNT Water Fuel
Atomic Mass Unit:
I Electron = 1 Proton - 1 Mu Hydrogen
Atom: 1E = 1P - 1 Mu Carbon Atom:
6E = 6P - 6 Mu Atomic Mass Ratio
(Mur) of Gasoline:
(8 H X 1Mu) plus (1 Oxy 6Mu) = 68 Mu's
** See Appendix (B) Note (2)
Whereby,
8H (Mu) divided by 68 (Mu's) = 11.7 %
Hydrogen Atoms
Thus,
One gallon of Gasoline equals
5.61Ibs/gal. 5.61Ibs/gal. times .117 =
0.6561bs of Hydrogen / Gasoline gal.
Chromatogram of typical Gasoline:
degree C = (degree F - 32) /1.8 @ 437 degrees F. ..... 10% / Volume impurities (Vi)
Therefore
.656 Ibs of Hydrogen / Gasoline - .065 (Vi) = .5911bs of Hydrogen Atoms available for Gas
Combustion per gallon of Gasoline approximately.
Thermal Heat of Combustion
Water / gallon ........... 57,000 BTU'S approx.
Gasoline / gallon ....... 22,800 BTU'S approx.
Thereby
Water Energy-yield (By ) is 2.5 times greater than Gasoline since the hydrogen content of water is
more than twice that of fossil fuel of gasoline. (See U.S. National Bureau of Standards Monograph 168
(523 pages )(Feb.198 I ) Engineering Design Data Manual titled "Selected Properties of Hydrogen",
CODEN NBSM A6 Library of Congress Catalog Card Number: 80-6(0195).
##### Re: Calculating the Caloric BTU Value of Water Fuel Gas Nano Bubble GTNT Water Fuel
Gasoline vs. "Water as Fuel": 50 hp Internal Combustion Engine

Gasoline Injection Cycle
(Tab 36)
111 ml/min. gasoline consumption rate (on-road tested) @ 65 mph + 2.5 hydrogen-fuel of
water = 44.4 mil min. water flow rate + 60 sec. =
.740 mI/sec water-fuel consumption rate @ 65 m.p.h.

Water Injection Cycle
(Tab 37)
3,000 rpm + 60 sec = 50 engine revolutions I see + 2 (Distributor Turn Ratio) = 25 Rotor
revolutions I see x 4 Water-Fuel Injectors = 100 Injection cycle I sec. Therefore,
.740 mil see water-fuel rate + 100 injection cycles I see = .0074
mI or 7.4 J.1l Water Droplet I injection cycle
##### Re: Calculating the Caloric BTU Value of Water Fuel Gas Nano Bubble GTNT Water Fuel
Here is the very very best Heat Combustion rate case for Gasoline
and this is a exaggeration at best

Water Wins as Zero Carbon zero pollution

Hydrogen Thermal Heat of Combustion 2.5 x the power of gasoline FACT

Dan
##### Re: Calculating the Caloric BTU Value of Water Fuel Gas Nano Bubble GTNT Water Fuel
REMEMBER IT IS THERMAL HEAT ON COMBUSTION

HENCE the WATER FUEL RESULT IS BETTER
( not smart ass plays on words or weights Facts on both in liquid form aka nano bubble water on combustion)

If Gasoline was better they would use it in atom b and rockets to space but they do not as Hydrogen is the winner

Nano Bubbles Water Fuel and Water in general wins Sorry boys Gasoline is out.

This is how it feels when numbers are Shown Correctly and not lied about ?

Water is the ideal container for that high yield combustion heat btu gas to be saturated
into by nano bubble suspensions until now this has been hidden very well by mis informing engineers.
##### Re: Calculating the Caloric BTU Value of Water Fuel Gas Nano Bubble GTNT Water Fuel
H2 Nano Bubble Saturated Water Fuel

Must be turned to a fog to ignite
several ways to do it here is one way

another is a ultra sonic pond fogger

the complimenting skills of the art and techniques
are rather valuable commodities at this time.

#### warj1990

##### Re: Calculating the Caloric BTU Value of Water Fuel Gas Nano Bubble GTNT Water Fuel
I'm just stating what I find.

I'm not trying to upset you or make you search and defend the figures.

The post from world-nuclear....   KG  vs KG.   - not gallon vs gallon.

I agree with the figure they have.  How much volume is 1 Kg of Hydrogen?
One Kg is about 2.2 lbs. (Roughly 2.2 gallons of water)

Attached is Page 15 from your document.  I agree with it and I already showed that in my above post.
However, this shows both units in Btu/lb ...... not Gallon for Gallon. See above post again.

Page 5 of the document is incorrect.  Gasoline is NOT 2 Carbon and 8 Hydrogen.

The main component of gasoline is C8H16.   That is 8 Carbon and 16 Hydrogen.

Moving to page 8, refering to Natural gas at 5 Carbon and 12 Hydrogen.... read the paragraph after "Thereby"

...natural gas contains more Hydrogen (pound vs pound)  than water, which is true.

When performing the correct C8H16 process for gasoline...it has more hydrogen content than natural gas (fact, proven!).

Moving on... I am all for turning water into fuel.

So I think we both made our points clear and it's time to get back to building

W.

#### securesupplies

##### Re: Calculating the Caloric BTU Value of Water Fuel Gas Nano Bubble GTNT Water Fuel
Talk all you like it is Fact

it is the BTU of yield Heat On Combustion it is Fact water is 2.5 times gasoline

( not pre combustion chains of molecules)

and it is a known trick as I have stated
to compare gas to liquid

when you compare liquid to liquid there is no debate particularly if it is   h2 nano bubble saturated water