Stanley A Meyer Water Resonance waveform Bifilar Inductor

Earl

Re: Stanley A Meyer Water Resonance waveform Bifilar Inductor
« Reply #1, on April 15th, 2019, 02:50 PM »
I was reading Patent 4,394,230 today and he shows the spike that was in video figure 6A in stage discussion.  It occurred when open circuit condition was created by removing water from between plates.  In the stages he talks about the conditioning step that Stanley also references.where water conditioning step.  Interesting he states there are very little bubbles even though gas is being generated and that process stops (Stanley was interested in the ionized gas!)  He also states that increasing power did not cause gas generation to restart. Reversing plate voltage did and also vibration did but that caused voltage spikes.   I also wondered if relaxing time (t3) would allow cycle to be restarted?  It this works it might explain the 11 cells in the car so always one or more cells are outputting gas while other are recycling.  Note: In patent he states not all stages he lists are required.



Nice to see items discussed in patent being recreated

securesupplies

Re: Stanley A Meyer Water Resonance waveform Bifilar Inductor
« Reply #2, on April 16th, 2019, 01:35 PM »Last edited on April 21st, 2019, 07:02 AM
yes I think this is very true and important


BE SURE NOT TO MIX MEYER qith Henry K Puharich AS 2 DIFFERENT THINGS
VERY SIMILAR BUT
HARD DIFFERENT


we have
1 gas fuel
2 nano bubble water fuel ( dissolved h2)

Both are important to understand and not ground or give back electrons to,  as + charge build in the water the surface tension goes up
with ph and saturated h2 as the dissolved nano bubbles replace other gases in the water, if no ambient - charged air or - charged surface touch water  fuel or gas fuel
gas stays in there and is GTNT quality

if you reverse polarity well that is ground back electrons  and breaking surface tension and undissolving gases
these are fact to understand master and teach

Dan



Gunther Rattay

Re: Stanley A Meyer Water Resonance waveform Bifilar Inductor
« Reply #5, on April 21st, 2019, 12:54 AM »
Quote from Earl on April 15th, 2019, 02:50 PM
I was reading Patent 4,394,230 today and he shows the spike that was in video figure 6A in stage discussion.  It occurred when open circuit condition was created by removing water from between plates.  In the stages he talks about the conditioning step that Stanley also references.where water conditioning step.  Interesting he states there are very little bubbles even though gas is being generated and that process stops (Stanley was interested in the ionized gas!)  He also states that increasing power did not cause gas generation to restart. Reversing plate voltage did and also vibration did but that caused voltage spikes.   I also wondered if relaxing time (t3) would allow cycle to be restarted?  It this works it might explain the 11 cells in the car so always one or more cells are outputting gas while other are recycling.  Note: In patent he states not all stages he lists are required.



Nice to see items discussed in patent being recreated
That statement shows that AC voltage is applied over the cell system. That makes total sense taking into account that that is no electrolysis but an electron timing influencing voltage driven pulsed process.

Earl

Re: Stanley A Meyer Water Resonance waveform Bifilar Inductor
« Reply #6, on April 22nd, 2019, 12:09 PM »
Gunter just started reading on this process a couple of weeks ago looking for something to do. So I read a lot in last couple of weeks.  Some of Stanley's Patent and his Birth of New Technology, Puharich's Patent 4,394,230 and both of Ronnie long threads and several of the other threads.  Having done that in a very short period of time I see a lot of similarities between Puharich's Patent and what Stanley is doing. To me it appears Puharich discovery process in his medical work and patented it.  He even states this in one of his documents.  He approached it from a science point of view and had tools most experimenters do not microscopes, spectrums analyzers, and access people to looks at the physic of process. In his 7 phases he describes what is going on in each phase and it appears he has no problem repeating things and even points out where process hangs up. As this is not much use in medical field I think we just moved on to other things as states only 70 to 80 percent effective.  I guessing this is where Stanley started is experiments because he had a problem he wanted to solve.

One of things I got out watch his video's and his documents Stanley is more of engineer (so am I) we take a different view we state a problem then try to figure out solve it.  In doing so we do not start from scratch we use what we know and also use what others have done. In found it strange in some of Ronnie's thread that some people could not except that Stanley applied the knowledge he new form his own work and other fields to the TV tube circuits. Modifying exciting things is much easier that starting form scratch.

Puharich  in patent provide several key things.  1) Process to split H2O into gas by his method works 2) show steps to do that (AM and FM modulations in certain frequencies ranges) 3) Event talks how to combine and frequency ranges to use 4) showed a cell design that works (reminds of Stan's injector) 5) documented problems with his system working i.e. gas cells stick to walls 6) process as described is only 70-80 % efficient

I guessing Stanley looked at this process as he was looking for another source of energy.  Why? Because the energy picture was not very good I old enough to have lived though that period.  So, if you see a process that works what do you do.  It, is 70-80 percent efficient can I make it better. Now don't get me wrong I am not putting down Stanley I think what he did is amazing  he had the rare talent to take information from multiple fields and apply to problem he was working. Today we would call him a System Engineer who integrates multiple sub systems into a working system i.e. his Birth of New Technology document.

Did he leave out a lot of information on how it works yes he did and that is nothing new a is a common industry practice to protect you investment.

Having read the about documents and trying to figure what I needed to do to get involved I decides I need to know a couple of things. 
1) How to solve the  impedance of the VIC system (not my favor things even when I studied this in college) even started my own spread sheet in excel to help solve equations (stop when I realized I needed to know more). 20 More about coils etc. (good coverage in threads (lot of good people) 3) The timing of they "system" I wanted to know how AM and FM signal were put together and phased and how the voltage steps where created but also WHEN the voltage steps were applied as both Puharich and Stanley state their is a conditioning step that "must" be satisfied before moving to next steps.

In the two threads WATER FUEL CELL Technical Brief and Understanding How Stan Meyers Fuel Cell Works, Ronnie and others have
provided a wealth of information.  The work that Ronnie has done just amazes me he duplicated in lot a whys what Stanley did approach it from a systems approach and answer the question what do I need to do to make it work.

Why all this I was frustrated, reading through the treads as the were several years old and I could not help or ask questions.  Some of the things in the two threads above Ronnie answered.   Other still remain open I still think timing is one the big ones when and how to you make the required changes to this dynamic systems.

Place where I am currently at is trying to figure if I can help and how.  I have some equipment but not enough same with some skills I have wound coils but only to do some simple tests. I do have BSEE and MSEE both very dated but both help me understand things and I was a project engineer for 30 years.  What I do have is time I am retired have a great interest in alternate energy and looking for something to do. I have started talking to Matt Watts as I am not too far from him.

Earl



securesupplies

Re: Stanley A Meyer Water Resonance waveform Bifilar Inductor
« Reply #7, on April 26th, 2019, 11:15 PM »Last edited on April 26th, 2019, 11:33 PM
We need to have this Board Drawn up accurate  dip trace or other software so we get more people learning
  it will  help if you do that on your path as you will learn the fundamentals of stans circuit
with a over layed gate etc  in process. Dan

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learning how to control pair and advance the staged applications

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