Hi everyone,

This is a reflexion i had after watching a video of Max Miller explaining the WFC on Youtube.

 Outer tube            Inner tube
                   Gaz
   ++++|         O        |----
   ++++|         O        |----
   ++++|         O        |----
   ++++|         O        |----
   ++++|         O        |----
   ++++|         O        |----
   ++++|+++++x-------|----
   ++++|                    |----
   ++++|                    |----
   ++++|                    |----
   ++++|                    |----
   ++++|                    |----

    GOOD (minimum amperage)
You have the same potential in the two tubes.



   ++++|                   O|-
   ++++|                   O|-
   ++++|                   O|-
   ++++|                   O|-
   ++++|                   O|-
   ++++|                   O|-
   ++++|++++++++++x|-
   ++++|                      |-
   ++++|                      |-
   ++++|                      |-
   ++++|                      |-
   ++++|                      |-

    BAD (Short circuit, raise of amperage)
The positive is much larger than the negative.

The surface of the outer tube is bigger than the surface the inner tube.
This is why Stan Meyer did the cuts on his (see videos).

Is this make any sense to you ?

Marco

Not about surfaces, something else.
Due to too small cuts on the outer tubes.
Keep searching.

interesting to consider the there may be a charge or magnetic reason at top of cell
to direct gas flow

Dan

From what I understand, there has to be an fairly exact electron charge balance in order to pull the water molecule apart--two hydrogen atoms; only one oxygen.  Supposedly you want the tube surface area as close as possible to achieving this balance, then you fine tune with the VIC.  You can't be exactly spot-on though.  You must offset slightly to maintain some amount of leakage current.  Without this leakage current, the monotomic hydrogen and oxygen will recombine back into a water molecule instead of as H₂ and O₂ which is a stable gas form.  If you notice in the patent drawings the polarity of the tube cells and why they would be connected in series, it all makes a little more sense.

Essentially you are trying to manufacture a precisely tuned asymmetric capacitor.

Now the thing that I haven't heard anyone talk about is the charge developed on the outside of the outer tube.  Recall all these tubes sit in a common water bath, so there would certainly be charge there as well with the tube cells wired in series.

You don't suppose the outside of the tubes may need to be insulated do you...?

Heard a lot of talk about insulating the inside between the tubes, but never the outside.  If you look carefully at the newer design, the tube cells sit in a delrin carrier, which would certainly insulate the outer tubes from each other.

stablizing the voltage on outer tube was shown to help in one of petlov videos on the inner surface we most leakage happens
opposite the negative ,

if there is surrounding water and it is ddh220 double distilled it becomes positive its self as nano bubbles of h2 distribute in it

Dan