Bi-Toroid Generator

Cycle

Bi-Toroid Generator
« on July 30th, 2017, 06:21 PM »Last edited on July 30th, 2017, 06:25 PM by Cycle
We all know about Thane Heins' bi-toroid transformer, it consumes reactive power in the primary, and outputs real power on the two secondary windings. It has no magnetic coupling from the secondary flux path back to the primary flux path at magnetic flux saturation of the primary flux path, so the primary coil sees no bEMF.

What if, rather than a primary winding inputting the magnetic flux to the bi-toroid core, there was a rotor with magnets?

And what if, rather than two secondary magnetic flux paths of equal length (and thus equal travel time for the magnetic flux within each side of the secondary flux paths), one of the secondary flux paths was sufficiently long such that the bEMF from that secondary coil was reflected into the secondary flux path such that it arrived at the other secondary coil at the same exact time as the magnetic flux from the primary flux path?

You'd have a generator which would consume the same amount of input power regardless of output power (you'd have no bEMF on the rotor's motive driver)... the rotor would merely be there to set the magnetic flux in motion.

You'd also have a generator which constructively reinforced the secondary flux with the primary flux... and given the powerful nature of today's magnets, one can set up quite a powerful magnetic flux.

We're essentially creating a magnetic relay, using a small input energy to trigger a much larger cascade of energy in the system.

Matt Watts

Re: Bi-Toroid Generator
« Reply #1, on July 30th, 2017, 08:55 PM »
I like it Cycle, but...

What if, nature finds a path out of this system to equalize the field forces, which by practical application of the above concept, it most assuredly will.

I still contend there are three primary field forces--you have to master and control all of them or they will find a way to balance themselves out.

Mother Nature is kind of funny that way, she doesn't like being pushed around and will push back if she has to.

Cycle

Re: Bi-Toroid Generator
« Reply #2, on July 31st, 2017, 06:30 PM »Last edited on July 31st, 2017, 06:33 PM by Cycle
Yeah, but I'll be darned if I can figure out how it'd do that... I've been wracking my brains trying to think of how, but no joy.

My original thinking was "why use electricity to develop the magnetic flux in the first place, when permanent magnets can do the same without input power (and it'd be a much stronger flux than one could hope to develop with a coil), especially given that the rotor would have no bEMF to slow it down?".

You'd essentially be using a tiny motor to spin the rotor. It needn't be large, just enough to spin it, since it won't have bEMF. The real work is done by the magnets... they'd transfer their flux to the primary flux path and to the secondary coils, whereupon that flux gets shuttled back and forth in the secondary flux path, where it's used to generate electricity.

That'd mean the magnets would experience an energy deficit and need to pick up more energy from somewhere, and we all know where they get that energy, the QVZPE field. It's a mechanical analog to what Haisch and Moddel did with noble gas and a Casimir cavity.

Matt Watts

Re: Bi-Toroid Generator
« Reply #3, on July 31st, 2017, 10:00 PM »
While tossing and turning ideas, consider the concept of parametric oscillation.  If it's possible to take some output from an oscillating system and add that output back with the original input, then the next oscillation should theoretically be of higher intensity.  If this continues unabated, at some point the feedback will dwarf the original input.  Doing this inevitably broaches a Catch-22.  Can "the effect" ever be summed with "the cause" ?

To know this answer, one has to determine with some certainty the concept of time, since it is the whole basis for cause and effect.  If time itself is actually a manifestation of the primordial fields, then space becomes its mediator--more distance, more delay, time is stretched.  If time as a field (Tempic) can be stretched by space, then a parametric oscillation is not only possible, but inevitable.

However, fields are interesting phenomena as well as mental concepts.  In order for a field to exists, it must have a beginning and an end, or at least two boundaries for it to interact with.  Translation?  In respect to a parametric oscillation?

A field knows its source and destination.  In other words, you cannot fool it.  It knows where it came from and where it's headed.  It knows its boundaries well before you do.  Therefore, a time (Tempic) field will act/react with both the cause and the effect simultaneously.  It simply will not allow itself to be manipulated on only one side.  This is Newton's Law at the most primitive level.

Resolution to this problem?

We need inertia.  We need something that once it's moving will tend to stay moving.  This will minimize the dilution of "the effect" and allow us to get a greater sum at "the cause".

Where oh where can we find a Tempic field that exhibits the behavior of inertia?

Look no further than the concept of the aether.

Once the clock starts, no one can stop it.   :blink2:

haxar

Re: Bi-Toroid Generator
« Reply #4, on August 1st, 2017, 04:01 AM »
Quote from Matt Watts on July 31st, 2017, 10:00 PM
While tossing and turning ideas, consider the concept of parametric oscillation.  If it's possible to take some output from an oscillating system and add that output back with the original input, then the next oscillation should theoretically be of higher intensity.  If this continues unabated, at some point the feedback will dwarf the original input.  Doing this inevitably broaches a Catch-22.  Can "the effect" ever be summed with "the cause" ?
Microphone feedback.

What you hear then is the sound system's resonant frequency at the speed of sound, between speaker and microphone.

Like L.M.D. waves up to the speed of light.