power from out of phase resonant coils

evostars

power from out of phase resonant coils
« on July 9th, 2017, 06:26 AM »
in this video950v dc from 12v dc i create the voltage by adding up 2 out of phase resonant coil.

I can also create a out of phase signal without reversing on of the coils. I never tried this. its pretty simpel to do and it might give some insight in what ia going on.

so... 3 stacked bifilar coils. center one is pulsed. top and bottom coils ar series connected so the open terminals give an 180 degrees out of phase signal.
then its again rectified with a avramenko plug (2 diodes) into a capacitor bank.

evostars

Re: power from out of phase resonant coils
« Reply #1, on July 9th, 2017, 06:41 AM »Last edited on July 9th, 2017, 06:45 AM
a very quick test that was.
easy when all the pieces are already there.

Yes. it works. 925V dc in a 9.3uF capacitor
almost 4 joules in, around 4 seconds fully charged.

that is basicly the same as with the reversed coil in the experiment (only a larger capacitor)

so the key is 180 degrees out of phase resonant signals. a resonant coil shows opposite phase at its ends.

another detail, i didnt connect the series connection to ground.

evostars

Re: power from out of phase resonant coils
« Reply #2, on July 9th, 2017, 06:48 AM »
now lets make this even more interesting...

lets feed the igbt with a 12V battery, and charge the battery from the capacitors.
I would think this would fail to work, but lets see. could it charge the battery while at the same time running the igbt?

evostars

Re: power from out of phase resonant coils
« Reply #3, on July 9th, 2017, 07:08 AM »
it works.
goddamn
strange thing is, the signals now arent out of phase. also not clipped sine waves. but highly deformed.
the voltage in the battery is slowly rising.
also the signal generator is still power from the wall socket. so power might come in there via the shared ground.
lets tweak this a little further


evostars

Re: power from out of phase resonant coils
« Reply #5, on July 9th, 2017, 07:40 AM »

made a slight variation in the setup.

now I cant tune into the resonant sine wave, because then the pulse generator resets. probably due to the common ground that is fed by the resonant sine wave after it is rectified.

the sine now is all over the place. when i measure the ground of the pulse generator
there it is. 500v pp.

cant say if the voltage is rising...

maybe also try without those caps.




Matt Watts

Re: power from out of phase resonant coils
« Reply #6, on July 9th, 2017, 07:51 AM »Last edited on July 9th, 2017, 08:03 AM
Erfinder explained and demonstrated to me one time a concept I haven't forgotten.  It had to do with coil shorting, but I think it tells us something.  Keep in mind Erfinder's research has been primarily in electromechanical machines, where he has learned a lot about how electricity, rotation, impedance, resonance, etc. all come together in its purest form.


If you pass a permanent magnet by a coil, then take the output from the coil rectify it and charge a capacitor, the capacitor will charge to a particular voltage.  That's your baseline.

Now you introduce coil shorting into the exact same system.  You short the coil at the peak of its voltage.  You will now see the capacitor voltage climb quite a bit higher than it did without the coil shorting.

What Erfinder proved to me is that this excess voltage in the capacitor above the baseline you first found is all for free.  As long as you do not discharge the capacitor below that baseline voltage, it's pure free energy.  The machine will never see an increase in load as long as you keep that capacitor charged above the baseline.

Okay, so you might say then, well, you have it all solved, you have free energy.  Not quite, because it still takes work to move the magnet past the coil, but there are things you can do to minimize this amount of work.  One way is to remove any core from the coil.  That reduces the drag considerably.  The other thing is the timing of the coil short.  If you do it at the correct timing, the shorted coil actually assists the movement between the magnet and the coil.

I haven't seen the final numbers, but from all indications, these "tricks" are things that should help us understand what we need to do with this Radiant Box device.  Erfinder told me in a Skype chat the other day that he burned up his last good motor/generator.  He said that we need to understand the three types of energy storage and manage them properly or the machine will always end up tearing itself apart.  He also said that Jim Murray is the only other person he knows that understands this concept.

evostars

Re: power from out of phase resonant coils
« Reply #7, on July 9th, 2017, 08:19 AM »
no further results.

but maybe it would be better to use 2 batteries.
as nelson also did.

I can charge the capacitors, but there need to be a middle connection to the opposite phase.
a single battery short cuts the 2 capacitors and it stops working.

If I had a few super caps, i could charge them to 12V (2x6v) and forget about the battery.

still I believe the charge coming out  of the opposite phases isnt enough to run the whole thing.



evostars

Re: power from out of phase resonant coils
« Reply #10, on July 9th, 2017, 09:43 AM »
I tried charging the battery without load.
just charged from the diode of the avramenko plug. that was fed by the resonant sine wave of about 300V pp

worked like a charm.

I also realised the battery didnt drain when i was running the igbt and at the same time charging it. not bad... but need more power.