Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy

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Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy
« on June 23rd, 2017, 09:34 AM »
Stan Meyers  Lives again

Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy

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https://youtu.be/eaO4RH5hmzg

Matt Watts

Re: Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy
« Reply #1, on June 23rd, 2017, 02:51 PM »
"Have to prime the water again before you use it."

Wonder what that means exactly...?

chuff1

Re: Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy
« Reply #2, on June 23rd, 2017, 07:04 PM »Last edited on June 24th, 2017, 06:22 AM
    If I am hearing him correctly around 10 min in, he is saying that you charge the water bath for 4
seconds then resonate the cavity for 94 seconds and that produces gas.  He states that it is a
resonate cavity,from that statement he is stating 1 of two things.  Either its ultrasonic waves that
he is using in addition to the voltage field or radio waves.  There would be no other reason to use
a resonate cavity except to concentrate waves into the water.  I want to relink to  two patents I posted
a few weeks ago about using this type energy to create more gas production. Here is the link to my
previous post:http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2957.0.  After reading that first patent again
I found a term worth researching, its called Radiolysis, in a nutshell its the disassociation of water using radio waves.  Here is a pdf showing a laser excited water bath electrolysis and charts the extra efficiency.

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Re: Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy
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Quote from Matt Watts on June 23rd, 2017, 02:51 PM
"Have to prime the water again before you use it."

Wonder what that means exactly...?

https://youtu.be/41GPsscO_ls

Cycle

Re: Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy
« Reply #4,  »
That's a really complicated way of doing things.

Easier (and along the same lines as Meyer does) to segregate the water into its hydroxide and hydronium components using voltage (but very little current flow), the hydroxide and hydronium will be denser than water, so they'll sink down into separate storage tanks from the segregation tank. Draw from each storage tank and direct-inject them separately, hit it with a spark in a space-constrained injector assembly like Meyer's, and you get a BLEVE (Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion) to drive the piston.

The advantage is you can store the hydroxide and hydronium safely (as long as you don't mix them external to the engine; and they're stored in electrically insulated, non-conducting tanks), so if your segregation tank circuitry breaks down or you run short of water, you've still got fuel in the hydronium and hydroxide storage tanks below the segregation tank. It also means you can get the engine running immediately, rather than waiting for the circuitry to build up enough water-fuel (at least for short to moderate term engine shutdowns... over long-term engine shutdowns, the hydroxide and hydronium would slowly migrate out of their storage tanks, across the segregation tank and recombine, necessitating re-segregating the water and building up to the necessary concentration of hydroxide and hydronium in the storage tanks to run the engine).

http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2431.msg33797#msg33797

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Re: Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy
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   The Explanations are getting Clearer
   We are Pretty much there now with the culture

    We try

   https://youtu.be/-gLmoWHmBJE

warj1990

Re: Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy
« Reply #6,  »
I know this topic has been at rest for a little while.  I just wanted to ask and see the thoughts of others. 

This seems to be a sales pitch being presented in the video.
We all know this cell was the origional tube design feeding the field coil of an alternator.  The field taken 5 volts at 2 amps...
The output power from that is undetermined in this video and much of Meyers work.

Stan states "if we raised the voltage to 5000 volts and 50 khz we can convert 1 gallon of water a second."

It's just concerning as to what "technology" he was taking about at this point.  Was this field input, or direct cell input?
What current would be seen at this voltage?

Also in this video it is mentioned "you will need about 3 gallons to fill this up"  With the amount of water I don't think this was a "cold" process at all.
Just the amount of water vs power being applied it didn't heat the water (much).

5,000 volts at 4.4 amps would be 22,000 watts of power.

Just alot to think on with this video and where Stan was with the technology at this point.

W.



Matt Watts

Re: Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy
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Terms:
    HV/LC --  High-Voltage/Low-Current
    LV/HC --  Low-Voltage/High-Current
    HV/HC -- High-Voltage/High-Current
    LV/LC --  Low-Voltage/Low-Current

My gut feeling (and Russ is working on it at this very moment) is that using impulses, there is a way to multiply LV/HC with HV/LC in such a fashion as to get a result that is (as seen by the load) HV/HC in-phase.  If this somehow goes beyond theory to a practical experiment or demonstration, we're in business.  Maybe this is what Stan stumbled into without actually knowing it, hence he never described the process this way.  If Stan could use this process to split water, it seems likely we might be able to go direct and achieve electrical energy amplification in the same manner--EPG maybe?.  Supposedly the Edwin Gray tube system did this as I would think other OU type systems.

The idea here is to take HV/LC that is phase lagging and combine it with LV/HC that is phase leading.  If you do it backwards you will get LV/LC, but if you do it correctly, you should get HV/HC.  The method that I think is likely to show the most promise it to use a LV/HC DC source and combine it with a HV/LC unipolar impulse.  Seems to me this is the most straight forward method.  I think Russ is using a cap-to-cap transfer method with an inductor in between (CLC) to phase shift.  From what I know so far about this method, he has successfully moved the energy stored in one cap to an empty cap without any losses.  That's a good start for sure.  What I'm waiting to see is something where the energy in the destination cap is actually higher than the energy in the source cap.  That's a huge leap of faith if he can do it.  Something he did show me that has my attention is a situation where the energy ends up in the destination cap as desired, but the source cap is now reverse polarity, so there's "negative energy" there.  Flipping this polarity and adding it to the destination cap might just put all his hard work and dedication on the map.  Time will tell...

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Re: Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy
« Reply #8,  »
or we can be talking about rf frequencies  not pwm but by Rf like cell 5g controllers

patrick1

Re: Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy
« Reply #10,  »
wow thats epic,  i wonder how much power he was actaully using.

12 kilowatts is about 20hp, and his buggy might have only had 20hp,  - and 2x 12v 100a batteries could supply this

although  i dont believe it.   and keep trying too proove his the bomb .. GG STAN

warj1990

Re: Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy
« Reply #11,  »
It's just some observations of the video.  I always thought Stanley come up with the high voltage and low amps with the VIC network and magical frequency.... This video he talks of the high frequency and low amps (BUT this seems to be pulled from his butt talking to this guy while showing the 11 tube design).

It just raises the question of where Stanley was with his technology during this demonstration. 
(11 tube design we know was pulsing the field of an alternator)
(we all understand the output current from an alternator is much more than field winding)


I'm hopeful the later VIC network could do what we all want to see and bring hydrogen on demand into existence...
...so far no one has been able to repeat this and get gas production.

I'm still diligently experimenting,

W.

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Re: Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy
« Reply #12,  »
very interesting

patrick1

Re: Stan Meyers Lives again Environmental Tape Full Version Posted by Max Enjoy
« Reply #13,  »
interesting indeed, although frustrating too decide what direction too attack this thing from.