radiant dielectric magnetodielectric longitudinal

evostars

radiant dielectric magnetodielectric longitudinal
« on April 30th, 2017, 03:42 PM »
Hi,
I've been interested in how a magnetic field works, and Ken wheeler inspired be to investigate the dielectric field.

Tesla's patent 512340 bifilar coils has my big interest. I've been playing with these bifilar pancake coils. Mostly because I was so surprised to see the resonant voltage rise. even more so, when I started pulsing them.

I donit believe in particles. I believe in fields. So, to me a electron is not a particle, but a field. atoms, also. all fields. ether fields. I think the way a field is setup, defines its properties, but it still is a ether field. So a electric field is a ether field (linear), and a magnetic field is a ether field (non linear).
If we take a look at water, we can see moving waves (water moves up and down). standing waves (water moves fast around a obstacle), vortex (water drain), and vortex tubes (dolphins blowing underwater rings). These are comparable to the ether field forms.

I really like music, and meditation. I believe to open my mind, I need to open my heart.

I work together with the Arcturians. simply by asking them questions, and following the intuition that follows.

I think there is much to explore in the ether fields. We are programmed to think AC DC. but what about pulsed DC, and spiked (very short pulse) voltage?

I do believe that conductors, are reflectors. like mirrors (shiny metals)
So the energy fields wrap around the conductors.

I'm a soloist, but I like sharing viewpoints.

so far for me.
I hope we can reinvent electricity, and understand it on a deeper level, so we can be free from the grid.
We've been lied to for to long.


chuff1

Re: radiant dielectric magnetodielectric longitudinal
« Reply #2, on May 16th, 2017, 06:33 PM »Last edited on May 16th, 2017, 06:40 PM
     I would like to give you a better understanding about Tesla's spiral coil and how it really works.
After reading through every piece of material written by and about Tesla i could find, I have a
good understanding about some, but not all of his inventions.
 
    His Coil for electro-magnets is missunderstood by most people because you need all of the information available to make the coil work as Tesla wanted.  I will show various sources that back up what I say. 

     First off is the patent itself.  If you read in the patent starting in section 55 on page 1 to section 10
on the second page.  He writes about the coil being designed specifically as a capacitive device
capable of storing voltages and that each winding next to the adjacent one is in fact a capacitor, the
definition being any two conductors separated by a dielectric.  This being so then to increase capacity
in the system you need to separate the conductors with the least amount of space and the dielectric
must have a High-κ dielectric.  In addition it would seem that to achieve greater results would be to wind a flat ribbon coil with a dielectric separation to give a higher capacity.

     Second is the fact that Tesla states in This book on page 132-133 his transmission is through
conduction not electromagnetic waves.  He also states on page 140 that All EM radiation is
hopelessly lost, non recoverable,  but like a balloon you must push the energy in just to the
point that it starts leaking out as EM radiation and stop then let the coils energy that you put
into it oscillate back and forth from end to end which means you need two capacities capable
of storing the energy on each end of the coil and if you want to put more energy into the coil
then the only thing you can do to decrease the amount of EM radiation is to increase the surface
area of the wire in the coil, which is why he used big wire in his circuits.  Welcome to the forums.

thx1138v2

Re: radiant dielectric magnetodielectric longitudinal
« Reply #3, on May 18th, 2017, 08:09 AM »Last edited on May 18th, 2017, 08:14 AM
@chuff1: Your analysis of the coil is right on. But what was the purpose of this capacitive device? It enabled him to create high capacitance at very high voltages where other methods would cause dielectric breakdown under the voltages he needed. Why the high voltages were needed will become apparent in a moment.

Now ask yourself, How did Tesla plan to transmit industrial scale power through the air via conduction? What is the "conductor"? There is no conductor. His plan was to transmit charged particles - the particles carrying the charge rather than a conductor, just as is done in a vacuum tube. See his papers on Roetgen Rays, more commonly called X-rays. That's why he needed the high voltages. And he needed the high capacitance so he would be transmitting power, not just signals.

His initial patent states the transmission would occur between tethered balloons maintained at 30,000 feet. Remember, there were no airplanes at the time. He considered 15 miles (79,200 feet) to be the best way to do it but realized the problem of maintaining balloons at such a high altitude so opted for the 30,000 feet in his patent. Page 125 in the document you referenced shows a simulator he built in his Houston Street laboratory for the patent examiner. Note the tube at top has the pressure lowered to "120 to 130 mm Hg" or about 5 inches mercury rather than the ~30 inches of mercury at sea level. The benefit of the altitude is twofold: less dense air (semi-vacuum) and cold temperatures (~40C/F). Both aid conduction. In fact, Tesla has a patent for submersing a coil in liquid nitrogen to aid conduction. That's interesting in relation to today's superconducting materials that have to be maintained at low temperatures to be super conductors.
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-685012-means-increasing-intensity-electrical-oscillations

Tesla never did, however, attempt transmission between balloons at altitude. There would surely be photos if he had and there are no such photos. That's probably a good thing because the jet stream with its 250 MPH winds was unknown at the time except for one fellow in Japan who was studying it. Tesla's balloons would have been in the jet stream, depending on the location he selected.
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-645576-system-transmission-electrical-energy?pq=NjQ1LDU3Ng%3D%3D

So why did Tesla never attempt the transmission between balloons at altitude? In Colorado Springs he discovered another way. There are entries in the Colorado Springs notes about electrically extracting hydrogen from the atmosphere to maintain the balloons at altitude so he was still thinking of using that method. But on July 4, 1899 he observed thunderstorms moving across the plains east of Colorado Springs and actually tracked them with an "electrical coherer". That note ends with "(This is of immense importance)". He did not immediately realize what he was seeing at the time because the July 5, 1899 notes talk once again about extracting hydrogen for the balloons.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/coloradonotes.htm

BTW, he also observed ground to cloud lightning that night but didn't realize what it was at the time. Interestingly, the first high speed slow motion video of ground to cloud lightning was captured at a site around Colorado Springs.

It's not clear when he realized how to implement transmission through the crust but that is what Wardenclyffe was designed to do IMO. The tower was a huge capacitor connected to the ground by pipes that ran 200 feet below surface level. Keeping in mind the July 4, 1899 notes, consider Wardenclyffe to be a man made thunderstorm, the cupola being the cloud containing the separated charges and pipe being the conduction path for the lightning and with its lightning striking the ground at the same point every time and with controlled frequency and duty cycle.