Has anyone seen this journal paper from India?

http://www.ijee.ieefoundation.org/vol3/issue1/IJEE_13_v3n1.pdf

It has some vague similarities to Meyer but nowhere near as sophisticated. Still, they are claiming approx. 30 times greater efficiency with pulsed signal compared to plain DC.

There is a thread at overunityresearch.com that goes into great detail about this subject.  I can't recall the old fellow from Australia's name that started the topic, but I recall that exact publication you linked as a reference.

Mirrored here.

Found it.  The guy's name is Les Banki:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2578.0

Thanks for that Haxar. That's a very interesting thread over on the other forum.

I see Les Banki has a Dropbox folder with all his projects available, including a "Water Fueled Generator Project (WFGP)". Does anyone have a link for this? I tried google but didn't see anything useful. If nobody here knows of it then I'll try contacting Banki for details.

Russ, Firepinto, MaxMiller, myself, and many others have experimented with pulsed DC electrolysis. I cannot find the citation for it anymore on what Tesla had to say about turning DC on and off, and how it killed line men due to the dielectric breakdown of the air medium around the conductive paths. It is a very interesting phenomenon though, that should not be overlooked as worthless history. Here is my contribution though there are a few variables in the way like the cells wave guide configuration, the indifferent metals of NiTi and unknown SS alloy. It is still something I have learned from and I hope it may help anybody on this journey to understand how to unlock waters atomic structure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGuSLJDqjuY

It would be nice to see someone revisit these experiments openly, but I had to move onto greener pastures. The amount of production is not practical in distilled water, but the idea is that if you can produce gas in decent quantities in Distilled water, then when an electrolyte is added, you will be making extraordinary gains.  In the future I would love to add some type of PLL circuit to experiment with harmonic oscillations of the water.

Happy Experimenting to you all :)

You don't want to be producing T.E.M. waves while DC pulsing at _any_ frequency. That consumes electrons, generating a magnetic field, and therefore heat. Maybe a bucking coil would help filter these well-known T.E.M. waves, leaving only L.M.D. waves.

Nano-burst DC pulsing would make sense. You would produce L.M.D. waves that are not time/frequency/period dependent and have no magnetic component. Tesla's hairpin circuit is a great example that needs investigating in how it produces these L.M.D. waves.

It throws Ohm's Law right out of the water.

:cleaning:

Thanks for the nice image Haxar, I think that should make it clearer for those not familiar with scalar/longitudinal waves.

I've found links to Les Banki's Dropbox downloads, so here they are for anyone who is interested:

http://goo.gl/ZgF7aS (points to https://www.dropbox.com/s/dt746yfbhvdaw9z/LB_WFGP-Feb%202014.zip)

http://goo.gl/8zY8Um (points to https://www.dropbox.com/s/9zaz5rlqzeq4lm9/WFGPsch.zip)

I don't know if there's anything else he published. I've been reading the huge (and excellent) Ronnie threads here on how to replicate and tune Meyer's device, but after reading Banki's comments in forums I'm thinking it would be educational and productive to start the other way around, buy a generator and get it working on DC electrolysis, from there I can make refinements such as pulsed DC and test ideas from Meyer etc.

I noticed Banki saying that most of his circuitry is to do with engine management, not gas production. I wonder if the same is true of Meyer's devices. Perhaps it is simpler than Meyer was letting on.

Quote from basil_brush on March 28th, 2017, 02:43 AM

... buy a generator and get it working on DC electrolysis, from there I can make refinements such as pulsed DC and test ideas from Meyer etc.

Russ had a similar method working with minimal hydrogen from a compressed tank:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1jdxxaqp-E

I can only suggest from purely my experience, brute force electrolysis fueling a generator is a battle I couldn't win.  The volume of HHO needed to even get the engine to crank was much higher than I could have predicted when I first attempted this experiment.  Les insists you can mix copious amounts of air with the HHO to reduce the fuel demand.  I simply could not verify that claim on my workbench.  I did solemnly try.  I tried everything I could think of.  My conclusion is "you need an edge".  You need some way to drastically reduce the energy input required to produce the gas.  But unless the gas contains much higher "explosive energy" than normal brute force HHO, you still need a lot of fuel production, about 10 LpM for every 100cc of engine displacement minimum.  Trust me, that's a lot of gas.

http://stomp.space/?portfolio=run-on-water

This led me to the Stan Meyer method, which I think can be made to work, but it will take a different mindset on some common principals of physics and how the universe is wired together.  At my age, it's a little hard to push these new concepts into my head.