I continue studying QM and trying to figure out how the universe operates. Today, I learned that quarks, held together by gluons into hadrons (the most prominent of which are protons and neutrons) don't just bind together into groups of two or three... the gluon has sufficient energy such that E > mc². IOW, the strong force is strong enough to make virtual particles that are persistent in the physical plane... they cluster together into giant clusters until their energy level breaches the energy barrier which concretizes matter.

Gluons are analogous to virtual photons... gluons mediate the strong force, just as virtual photons mediate the electromagnetic force.

This means that for every single particle of matter you see, there is a giant cluster of virtual quarks (and anti-quarks) bonded together by gluons, and the particle of matter you see is just the 'tip of the iceberg', poking above below the energy level necessary to concretize matter.

{EDIT: That should be "poking below the free energy level necessary to concretize mass". Apparently, while the QVZPE field is fairly highly entropic, it is also fairly highly energetic (it is, after all, QVZPE field radiation pressure which is driving universal expansion, which obviously requires a lot of energy... that the higher-frequency modes of the QVZPE field are above the plasma frequency and thus experience a negative index of refraction, allowing that electromagnetic energy to exceed c (the speed of light which is set by that universe-permeating paramagnetic plasmic medium called the QVZPE field), thus causing universal expansion faster than c obviously means the QVZPE field contains a lot of energy). Thus, we're the "bottom layer", the fairly low-energy component of the universe. That free energy is bound up in mass.}

This is why massive particles have mass (because in poking above below that energy level necessary to concretize matter, they interact with the Higgs field, which slows the gluon interaction of the strong force, imparting inertia that is sensed as mass), and why matter has so much energy bound up in it... 25 terrawatt-hours per kilogram.

It also happens to explain why the Quantum Vacuum Zero Point Energy Field underpins the stability of all matter... without the ZPE field, there would be no gluons holding the quarks together, they would break apart and the energy holding them together would be released.

This is why artificially suppressing the QVZPE field radiation pressure (as happens in a Casimir cavity) would be a good means of forcing matter to dissociate back into energy. For a mere 7 pounds of matter per day, we could provide all the energy necessary to power the entire planet.

All human hopes are in vain
I'll explain later

Tell me one legitimate reason Why would anyone burn matter

Quote from Ris on January 29th, 2017, 03:02 AM

All human hopes are in vain
I'll explain later

No need.  It's already been written:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pessimism

Well I'll tell you why it's not a good idea
first  if you can not reverse the process to repair possible damage caused by the same process then this is a very bad idea-Burning oil is a good example of our knowledge
another example of our knowledge is fusion reactor it is clean energy but still creates unusable waste and filling our atmosfere with these gases is probably not a good idea.
the bottom line is do not experiment with our planet If you can not repair the damage, this is my home too
now is enough  whining.
whether we have any solutions,Of course we have
Take two types of power plants ,steam power plant and hydro power plant -First you need the primary power source and that can be our sun thus you make steam and electricity ,condensing of steam you make at high mountain and gravity will do the rest thus you have efficiency greater than 100%
This is better than any Tokamak and easier to make and thus you get the famous saying of Mr. Tesla I can amplify power 5000 times and we do not need coal gas oil or Nuclear.thus the destruction of matter is a very bad idea since matter serves as an amplifier and since the universe is on the move thus our source of energy is almost infinite and absolutely free !!!!!!!!!!!
top model of getting power is rough and simplified example for easier understanding and also we can make simpler and portable models using similar principles.
so am I smart ----- definitely not because I have limited time learning due to the death meeting and I do not plan to spend time on stupidity
whether is our scientists smart, I do not know but you can judge bay your self and they have the same meeting as we all
so As you can see we do not have energy problems but we have a serious problem of the mind
whether there is a solution Yes, of course if you believe in God
I'm not a preacher or priest just taking out the important true facts,There are two interesting sayings from the Bible First, many smart will read but will not understand , you're with me or you're with them there is no between
If anyone smart can not understand simple truth and message from the Bible How can he do anything good
so Unified Field Theory from it, it is thrown out the most important infinite God equation and that and destruction of matter and all the other stupidity so far will not bring what we all seek.
so on this planet there is no man made problem whom God has not already solved for the benefit of all
message is we all need to look for the truth with the truth we can make almost everything and will last forever
with other things depending how bad is We can expect the same degree that bad
Pessimism or optimism  ,  red or blue pill  , Battle or comfort(work or laziness)  You tell me which more leads to a progress and what is better

Yes Ris there is a point you show but not all see. Some will chose one side or another by their works.  Yes the majority of the population is so busy just surviving day to day they do not have the time to think in depth as an individual and question the world that is spinning so fast around them. It is very much like the premise a con man works with. The con person will sidetrack you so you don't notice they are stealing from you.  So too many people are so busy just day to day they do not notice things changing around them until it is too late. Yes oil was something that was a bad idea because of the byproduct. Many factors all introduced through greed has destroyed much of the original planet. As caretakers of this planet we have done a piss poor job.

imagine what would happen if people didn't have to work to make their livings ... some of them would expand their minds as some here in the forum already do.

IMO that is the only way for mankind to become a long-lasting civilization as thousands other out there in space already are ...

We truly have a long way to go Gunther.  My instincts tell me we may likely perish and have to recycle again and again, many times until we finally get it right.  I see ourselves stuck in some resonant cycle, a circular loop if you will.  Until we finally manage to get ourselves on a spiral track where each revolution brings us closer to a new awareness, we will orbit in this abyss for many years to come, playing the same old game of survival instead of living.

We need a helping hand from the "boys topside".

Stuck in cycles - that´s my experience from remote viewing sessions showing that
mankind exists for more than 95  million years now - same time as dinosaurs. some geological results confirm that showing human footprint in dinosaur footprint. poor scientific establishment tries to dump that knowledge.

that would make homo sapiens sapiens ridicule and darwin look like a fool ...

so boring ... up and down and up and down and ...

maybe we are the only civilization that goes in cycles and that is our specific experiment running in our genetic code ...

if so there is no help from outside until we overcome our genetic pre-determination.

mind over matter will work!

Quote from Ris on January 29th, 2017, 06:37 AM

Tell me one legitimate reason Why would anyone burn matter

Because it would require a mere 7 pounds of matter per day to power the entire planet... we receive much, much more than that every single day from infall.

And it doesn't matter which matter... radioactive waste, anyone? Or, rather than taking up valuable land in burial plots, or valuable fuel to incinerate bodies, how about everyone who dies gets a chance to power the planet? Even if one had lived an entirely worthless life, the fact that they could power the entire planet for a couple weeks is a pretty good thing.

since you do not understand what I'm talking about
You should build a glass room also should make some kind of curtain for protection from the sun
Now get in that room and put the room into space on the same orbit around the sun as Earth
Now you have the right to use all the human knowledge acquired through history +all matter from the earth +your source of power which we assume is working
Now what do you think how long you would survive

I'm having difficulty parsing your meaning, but I assume you're worried about the greenhouse effect? Don't be... the planet cools off at a rate that is proportional to the 4th power of temperature differential. The planet is chucking heat out to an infinite heat sink which is at 2.725K, and any doubling of temperature means a 16x increase in heat transfer... so it nips any temperature increase in the bud pretty quickly (remember, we saw as much as 160 F temperature differential during a single day in some places during the 1940s... a couple degrees difference? Negligible. And we've seen an increase in diurnal temperature differential, in direct contradiction to the AGW camp's model predictions).

If we can power the planet directly from matter dissociation, we no longer put out as much CO2, which a lot of people mistakenly blame for global warming (not understanding that at the end of the 20th century, we were seeing higher solar activity than we'd seen in the last ~11,000 years, which has now ended... solar activity is now lower than the Dalton minimum (F10.7 now at ~75 vs. the late-20th-century average of 128) and predicted to go even lower... "off the bottom of the charts" is how NASA put it for solar cycle 25... the bottom of the chart being the magnetic minimum of 64). Below F10.7 ~100 indicates global cooling. We're now below the F10.7 level of the 1970s "impending ice age" alarmism.

Or are you worried that we'd run out of matter? Seems a lot of people can't comprehend the scale of the universe... it's huge, with a lot of matter. Are you worried that the sun is imminently going to run out of matter to convert to energy? No? Well, the sun can only work via fusion, and only by fusing hydrogen to helium... matter dissociation to energy can work with any matter, of which there is a lot more than just hydrogen. IOW, we'd have power on the planet long after the sun had run out of fuel... if the sun wouldn't have expanded and enveloped the planet by then, snuffing us out anyway.

I'm not sure that planet Earth can withstand two sources of energy sun and any other
too much heat would likely expand our atmosphere and probably would vanish
really do not know what is the thermal conductivity of the planet earth but you have to be aware of 12 hours we receiving energy from the sun but we also 12 hours release energy in the universe that's roughly the process
each additional heat source creates a problem maybe not a problem for the matter but definitely for all alive
Planet Earth is quite well balanced machine which may endure changes to a certain extent thus glass box as an example Here you can see the changes quite quickly but carry out such experiments on the planet because it is big it is madness

Quote from Ris on February 3rd, 2017, 06:41 AM

Planet Earth is quite well balanced machine which may endure changes to a certain extent thus glass box as an example Here you can see the changes quite quickly but carry out such experiments on the planet because it is big it is madness

As for life on planet Earth, the best thing would be if humanity wiped itself out, through war or whatever our imagination could come to think of.
After that then Earth would recover from mankind's raving insanity in round about 100000 years or so and hopefully a new more sensible species would emerge and take over as the new rulers of this small planet.

You absolutely do not have any justification for this statement
you've got legs hands and brain now fix what's wrong
because human life is worth more than Earth

Quote from Ris on February 3rd, 2017, 08:40 AM

... human life is worth more than Earth

Are you certain of that statement Ris?

Do you know something I don't about the evolution of the human species?

Did we already evolve to the point where we went back in time and corrected the mistakes of the past?

Does the Earth exist because of this correction?

Earth without people is just a bunch of rocks thus creating a computer without intelligence is just interesting thing to do nothing more
you're not going back in time in order to fix current problems that would be cheating also would not be good because in the end you would judge God because he created you

You're assuming intelligence can only express itself in human form.  I tend to disagree.  The Earth itself is alive, intelligent and only desires a symbiotic relationship with its inhabitants.  If humans cannot live up to that expectation, then I'm sure there are other species that can.