Cooperation heads to Water Fuel Technology

Matt Watts

Re: Cooperation heads to Water Fuel Technology
« Reply #1, on January 10th, 2017, 10:56 AM »
Quote from Gunther Rattay on January 10th, 2017, 03:30 AM
Stepping in to water fuel technology needs open-mindness for supportive cooperation.

Look, how cooperation and fruitful cooperation now works for Ronnie´s WFC concept and VIC circuit exploration in this forum.
Cooperation is achieved when all participants recognize and realize no one single person has all the answers.  This will be true even when a fully functional unit is shown in operation on this forum.  If we are lucky, more than one of us will be able to replicate the effects, but it is very unlikely anyone will completely understand why it works and how it works.  This basic fact is what opens the door for cooperation.  It stems from humility--knowing your own limitations.

I'm going to say something here, tongue-in-cheek and it's not meant to criticize or ridicule anyone.  It's just my impression.

I find it odd those two fellows in the video that came to the 2013 GBEM conference in Boulder were so sure they had it all figured out and yet three and a half years later they still have not demonstrated a fully operational prototype.  My ol' man referred to that approach as pearls before swine.  From an outsider's perspective it appears everything was hype, which at the end of the day helps no one.


Russ and I have committed to following through until we die or succeed.  There will be no fancy presentation boards and talk of having Stan Meyer's technology solved, because we already know it will never be solved.  It might be reproduced, but never solved.  We will do our best to cobble together prototypes and seek Ronnie's guidance; people can say whatever they want about OpenSource along the way.  We will share what we discover in a form anyone interested can participate in.  It's not our goal to fix the world with water fuel cell technology; that can be assessed by future generations.  My hope is they have everything they need to take things to the next level.  We have accepted the challenge and hope to make serious progress; beyond that it is up to society in general to do something worthwhile with our efforts, even if it ends up being a long list of things not to do.  I think there are others having the same discipline and mindset which I won't mention specifically.

This is the key to cooperation.  A common goal, a common desire, the scope of which is small enough it may be attainable.  Open-source-energy.org is laboratory where we participate and share what we have found.  There are no expectations of making money or mass producing a product.  That is well beyond our scope or our intent.  It's unfortunate some do not see things the same way, which is their prerogative.  Nature has a plan with many paths to follow, some of those paths may lead to a dead end, others may go in circles.  Somewhere in the maze of decisions there will be a path that moves forward and progresses without hindrance.  Lets just hope we are on that path.

Ris

Re: Cooperation heads to Water Fuel Technology
« Reply #2, on January 10th, 2017, 12:35 PM »
Nature has a plan with many paths to follow, some of those paths may lead to a dead end, others may go in circles.  Somewhere in the maze of decisions there will be a path that moves forward and progresses without hindrance.  Lets just hope we are on that path.
Every path is a good path
yes we are on that path but Technology will not give us what we strive for
You want to bet

~Russ

Re: Cooperation heads to Water Fuel Technology
« Reply #3, on January 10th, 2017, 12:47 PM »Last edited on January 10th, 2017, 12:50 PM
I have spent Manny years trying to teach others about why Cooperation seems to never work.

I even have spend Manny times presenting them in conferences and speaking about it in my videos..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvLb-_6z0Mk

if you take the time to actually watch that you can see what i was thinking WAY back then. and not much has changed to now.

we each have a part to play. it can be destructive or helpful. its that persons choice.

~Russ

haxar

Re: Cooperation heads to Water Fuel Technology
« Reply #4, on January 10th, 2017, 01:31 PM »
It's the hype or controversy surrounding your unverified claim that is damaging.

You have to provide proof for your claim(s) to be valid.

This primarily exists in the legal system.

Matt Watts

Re: Cooperation heads to Water Fuel Technology
« Reply #5, on January 10th, 2017, 03:10 PM »Last edited on January 10th, 2017, 03:17 PM
Quote from Ris on January 10th, 2017, 12:35 PM
Every path is a good path
In some cosmic way you are probably correct.  Though I think killing each other on a day-to-day basis is a path I'd rather jump off of.
Quote from Ris on January 10th, 2017, 12:35 PM
yes we are on that path but Technology will not give us what we strive for
That depends on what "we" are striving for.  In my case, seeing a result I was told ever since I was born is impossible, is a good enough reason to keep on striving.  You all are welcome to join up with me if you so desire.  I'll continue searching until the clock runs out or I find what I am looking for.  I simply refuse to believe the universe was put here to be nothing more than an open-air prison for us nutty humans.  There has to be more and it must have a reason.
Quote from Ris on January 10th, 2017, 12:35 PM
You want to bet
No Ris.  I may very likely lose that bet and it would be a shame you wouldn't be able to collect since I would no longer be here for you to collect that lost bet from.  Such a bet would be a promise I couldn't keep.



Matt Watts

Re: Cooperation heads to Water Fuel Technology
« Reply #7, on January 10th, 2017, 05:54 PM »Last edited on January 10th, 2017, 05:59 PM
Brilliant Light Power now.
http://brilliantlightpower.com/

I did not know they were the ones to end up with all of Stan's stuff.  Figures.  We can count on them doing absolutely zip for mankind.  A big clue is the story showing up on CNN--probably the most agenda driven media outlet in existence.

Some interesting things stated here:
http://brilliantlightpower.wikia.com/wiki/BrilliantLightPower_Wiki

haxar

Re: Cooperation heads to Water Fuel Technology
« Reply #8, on January 10th, 2017, 07:35 PM »
I guess, unfortunately, there was no will to protect his estate from being sold. It could have been destroyed upon death. Luckily, we're left with all the keys.