I have a really simple idea that uses already existing technology, I just don't have the means to build it at the moment. This is a box that will generate electricity for a house.
First you will need an invertor. You can buy one,  or make it from old electronic equipment. Second,  take old car batteries and convert them to lead crystal salt batteries. There are YouTube videos on how to if you need. Third,  you need a small monopole magnetic flywheel,  with a power control module,  so you don't overcharge your batteries.  All that's left is making sure you have the right connectors to hook it up to your house,  and away you go!
I have not included size,  dimensions,  or calculations because those are going to be according to what your personal needs are,  this is scalable,  and will work anywhere in the world.
Thoughts, ideas,  anyone want to build one and tell me about it?

Quote from Jason069 on December 31st, 2016, 07:22 AM

I have a really simple idea that uses already existing technology, I just don't have the means to build it at the moment. This is a box that will generate electricity for a house.
First you will need an invertor. You can buy one,  or make it from old electronic equipment. Second,  take old car batteries and convert them to lead crystal salt batteries. There are YouTube videos on how to if you need. Third,  you need a small monopole magnetic flywheel,  with a power control module,  so you don't overcharge your batteries.  All that's left is making sure you have the right connectors to hook it up to your house,  and away you go!
I have not included size,  dimensions,  or calculations because those are going to be according to what your personal needs are,  this is scalable,  and will work anywhere in the world.
Thoughts, ideas,  anyone want to build one and tell me about it?

Feel free to elaborate on your simple idea :)
For example, do you mean that the box itself contains the inverter, batteries and flywheel or that it contains your simple idea in some way, shape or form which completes the build?

The full in idea is to make as much of it as possible from recycled parts. "Box" is a loose term; the idea is to have a self contained system producing electricity. The box can be an old refrigerator,  or something made out of palettes, it doesn't matter.  The invertor can be purchased,  or made from old repurposed electronics if you have the skill. The batteries are made from recycled car batteries, and the monopole magnetic flywheel again can be made from an old motor and recycled parts. The only new things I would recommend is the PCM and the connectors to hook up to a house.
It's all existing tech,  it just needs to be put together.

So how would you spin the mono-pole fly wheel?

Quote from Enrg4life on January 2nd, 2017, 04:08 PM

So how would you spin the mono-pole fly wheel?

With monopole magnets of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4A6VJodow

Here is a simple version:

https://youtu.be/CjvulAuktHs

Here is a more complex setup using the same principle

https://youtu.be/M8VdsWn-Q9Y

what in the name of all hell is going on in this thread?! come on people.....at least from the smoke in the last thumbnail it appears someone finally lit the Q-mogen on fire! (or whatever its being called now) is that how it creates extra energy, by burning?
i like magnets, and pulse motors are fun, but these guys have been given enough slack and its time to pull it in a bit. small time get-rich quick energy scams are embarrassing and counter-productive. its first thing in the morning and im still being nice, so thats all i will say.
please stop.

I'm not looking to get rich. Most of my idea is made from recycled parts, and i'm purposely starting this discussion on an open source site because its not about money for me; its about taking away the need for a huge electrical grid. I am not any sort of math or electrical genius, the technology I am referring to is nothing new. I know that these three separate pieces of technology work, I pose the challenge of putting them together. In putting them together, and making them work together, the idea is that someone could build a box fairly cheap themselves, and get themselves off the electrical grid.
How does that get me rich?
If somewhere I am wrong, please explain how and why, rather than being accusatory about my motivation.

Quote from Jason069 on January 11th, 2017, 07:57 AM

I know that these three separate pieces of technology work, ...

How is it you know this?

Do you have verifiable proof?

From what I see in those videos, you have partial proof those technologies do not work.  So I don't honestly comprehend how one would take them altogether and have something that does work.  IMHO you are putting the cart before the horse.

Quote from Jason069 on January 11th, 2017, 07:57 AM

... and i'm purposely starting this discussion on an open source site because ...

You wish to enlighten us correct?

Quote from Jason069 on January 11th, 2017, 07:57 AM

If somewhere I am wrong, please explain how and why, rather than being accusatory about my motivation.

We're not your parents or your teacher and to be completely honest, we're not sure about your motivation.

What would be good at this stage is to go to the Introduction Thread and introduce yourself so we have a better understanding of your background and how you might be able to assist this OpenSource community.

ok jason, let me start off by clarifying that my intention is not to be 'accusatory of your motivation', unless you are the producer of the second video you posted. these types of magnet-motor videos are incredibly misleading and are reliably coupled with some kind of service or product offered for sale.
if your intention is to create a generator from cheap, accessible parts which you intend to turn with a wind turbine, bicycle, or some other form of engine then you have indeed come to the right place. if you want to look at experimental ways to build the generator, different ways to wind coils....find formulas to match magnet strength with coil dimensions (or help investigate any of these things), there are tons of people around here that can and will help you with your questions.
if your intention is to build a box that you simply plug in to your house and walk away, never paying for power again....well, good luck.
another short-cut is to hop on to the years of research that have already been assembled in the field, and just find yourself a nice 3-phase permanent magnet motor (or pretty much any DC motor) and start playing with some power generation stuff.
i fully support energy independence, and will do anything i can to help you achieve this realistically.
jeremy

Thank you Jeremy,  your above and support is appreciated.  Let me break the components (as I see them down, and perhaps we can get a dialogue going about what will and won't work with it.

First component is an invertor. As these are commercially available,  this part is really in question.

Second are the converted car batteries. Take old lead acid batteries and convert them to lead crystal salt batteries,  and use them as your power for the invertor.  (How much you need will depend on your electrical needs) converting the batteries is simple,  but a little dangerous,  unless you go this route:

https://youtu.be/6KS-Qw690yA

The third,  and perhaps the part that I think is making people question my idea is the monopole magnetic flywheel. I've seen videos of it working,  and I've seen videos of people trying to debunk it.  Usually the people I've seen trying to debunk it don't build it quite right,  either by not going full monopole,  or by not spacing their wheel right,  or building the monopole flip magnet right.  I realize it is quite possible it doesn't work,  but I have yet to see a fully logical and plausible explanation as to why it doesn't.

Each of these simple things (as long as they all work) could be combined to create an "electric box", something to take the average house off the power grid,  with minimal maintenance and upkeep. At least that's the theory even if it's the size of a fridge or two.

Your input would be appreciated,  maybe I can refine my idea,  or just decide to scrap it.

By the way,  the first flywheel motor video I posted was not the one I was looking for,  this is the one that shows what I am speaking of in monopole design.

https://youtu.be/vBRDvwrFwVo

Okay, so I see one weak link in your idea.  The inverter, check, those work fine.  The lead crystal salt battery, check again, those can be made to work too.  My preference in that type of battery is a lead calcium battery however.  The last piece, the monopole flywheel...

First of all, you do know magnets "always" have two opposite poles right?  I quoted always because to my knowledge, a magnetic monopole only exists as a theoretical concept, not a real, hold it in your hand device.  So if a monopole flywheel requires monopole magnets, then one would have to get very creative to actually build it.  So that approach will likely be a dead end.

Having said that, I have heard of a special arrangement of magnets that may lead to the desired effect.  I can't remember the exact term used for it, but it is something like "Siberian Coliu".  YouTube and Google have become useless these days so I can't find a good reference to this.  The basic idea goes something like this:

You take two ring magnets and break or cut them in half.  With each broken ring magnet, you take a piece and flip it over from its original position so the poles are reversed and glue it back together.  Same for the other ring magnet.  Now with the two glued ring magnets that each have a North and South pole facing each direction, you force together this arrangement where they try repel from each other.  You can glue them in a vice so they stay this way.

I have never tried this experiment but as I understand it, the magnet assembly in this configuration will act much like what you are referring to as a monopole magnet.  Somewhere on youtube there are several Russian videos demonstrating the capability of this magnet arrangement.  A fellow by the handle of Enjoykin posted quite a bit about this magnet configuration at overunity.com.


Here's one video that may give you a starting place to begin your search.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTuDrJVzCpo

That motor is interesting,  but yes,  you hit the nail exactly on the head.  You glue two regular magnets together with the south pole facing out (going with south pole on everything) on a rod that will allow it to rotate freely. The video I posted I think was made in Pakistan,  and demonstrates exactly what I am referring to. What about putting it all together,  will it work?

If you're in a position to build it and demonstrate to this forum what you have or have not achieved, that would be very helpful to others.  I know several of us are up to our eyeballs in Stanley Meyer replications, so we would only be spectators at this time.  I say go for it Jason.  You might just enlighten us yet.

nice effort, matt.

jason...your position is more common than you think.....what you are asking is what has been insinuated possible by many, and under investigation by countless others.
magnets....there must be a better way to arrange them, right?!
i have done a fair bit of investigation into this as well, as with any knowledge.... it is best learned first hand. i will agree with matt.....the monopole magnet is a theoretical 'white whale' in my mind. the nature of the permanent magnet is to be symmetrical....both poles will always find a way to be present....somewhere. that doesnt mean there isnt some more intricate way to use them....good luck with this. it is great exercise for the brain.

one thing to be sure of: once you start building your own devices.....successes or failures....you will never look at the commercial energy market the same.

best of luck with your builds if you choose to start some. please do share....for good or bad!

maybe could try this as a kickstar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9TgCxPcBiI