One of the anomalies I experienced in my earlier research with hho cells...

I had a 6 plate system I was testing, and for some reason decided to wrap a coil of 18ga. wire around the top of the electrolyzer.  the gas then an out through a 1/4in tube into a bubbler.  I had been testing the bubbles with a butane lighter, one of those kinds  like you light a barbecue grille or a fireplace with.  prior to the wire coil, the resulting 'pops' as the gas bubbles ignited had been pretty loud, but nothing tremendous...  The bubbles produced by the gas coming through the EMF seemed over 3 times as loud!  A small bubble the size of a nickle produced enough decibels to cause momentary hearing loss, and a ringing in the ears!
I believe the difference was, the magnetic field produced by the electrical field caused all the electrons to polarize in the same direction.  One website I viewed calls that Orthohydrogen, claiming it has 4 times the power of regular hho.
Certainly it makes sense that having all the charges either positive or negative would prevent said charges from cancelling either out in the combustion process...
Anybody have any thoughts on this?

Wow! 2 days and no replies... now I am wondering if I am the only one who has had this experience, and if I should investigate it further to share my findings with the group, or if I'm just being ignored!  :D

Quote from DNKXP on January 3rd, 2012, 08:45 AM

Wow! 2 days and no replies... now I am wondering if I am the only one who has had this experience, and if I should investigate it further to share my findings with the group, or if I'm just being ignored!  :D

i think life has been bizzy over the holidays!!! this is very interesting,

do you have some photos of your setup.

also how are you pulsing your coil?

one more thing is i know is that when i let my system run the longer the system runs the louder it gets. i have also gotten a simple cell in distilled water and got some deafening loud bubbles...

a video would be most helpful!!!! :)

thanks! ~Russ

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on January 3rd, 2012, 06:48 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 3rd, 2012, 08:45 AM

Wow! 2 days and no replies... now I am wondering if I am the only one who has had this experience, and if I should investigate it further to share my findings with the group, or if I'm just being ignored!  :D

i think life has been bizzy over the holidays!!! this is very interesting,

do you have some photos of your setup.

also how are you pulsing your coil?

one more thing is i know is that when i let my system run the longer the system runs the louder it gets. i have also gotten a simple cell in distilled water and got some deafening loud bubbles...

a video would be most helpful!!!! :)

thanks! ~Russ

The holidays were crazy... but I am pleased to report that I did have some time to tinker...  My problem is being gone an average of 24 days a month, and never being home to do research.
Sorry I can't give you a video, the incident was about 4 years ago, but will try to do a sketchup to give you an idea...
Their was no pulse on the coil, or the cell, as it was all brute force electrolysis I merely wound a double strand of small (22ga.?) speaker wire around the top 1/4 of my 4.5 inch cell, and hooked one end to the positive terminal on the battery, and the other to the positive terminal on the cell.  This was not the main supply for the cell, rather a separate circuit.

oK... I drew a sketchup but the forum won't let me post it...

Quote from DNKXP on January 4th, 2012, 09:28 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on January 3rd, 2012, 06:48 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 3rd, 2012, 08:45 AM

Wow! 2 days and no replies... now I am wondering if I am the only one who has had this experience, and if I should investigate it further to share my findings with the group, or if I'm just being ignored!  :D

i think life has been bizzy over the holidays!!! this is very interesting,

do you have some photos of your setup.

also how are you pulsing your coil?

one more thing is i know is that when i let my system run the longer the system runs the louder it gets. i have also gotten a simple cell in distilled water and got some deafening loud bubbles...

a video would be most helpful!!!! :)

thanks! ~Russ

The holidays were crazy... but I am pleased to report that I did have some time to tinker...  My problem is being gone an average of 24 days a month, and never being home to do research.
Sorry I can't give you a video, the incident was about 4 years ago, but will try to do a sketchup to give you an idea...
Their was no pulse on the coil, or the cell, as it was all brute force electrolysis I merely wound a double strand of small (22ga.?) speaker wire around the top 1/4 of my 4.5 inch cell, and hooked one end to the positive terminal on the battery, and the other to the positive terminal on the cell.  This was not the main supply for the cell, rather a separate circuit.

oK... I drew a sketchup but the forum won't let me post it...

If you add your sketchup file to a zip folder, you can attatch that to the forum. :) I don't get much time at home either.  Another nomad in the group! :p

Nate

Ok, thanks Nate I will try that... yeah, the nomadic life got me about 26 years ago, and won't let go!!!  Even though I would rather be home researching this thing...  I have so many ideas, I will never live long enough to try them all!  Holding a steering wheel gives one a lot of time to come up with new ideas...

What we need is someone with the spare time to build ideas for us nomads! lol

Quote from firepinto on January 4th, 2012, 09:37 AM

Quote from DNKXP on January 4th, 2012, 09:28 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on January 3rd, 2012, 06:48 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 3rd, 2012, 08:45 AM

Wow! 2 days and no replies... now I am wondering if I am the only one who has had this experience, and if I should investigate it further to share my findings with the group, or if I'm just being ignored!  :D

i think life has been bizzy over the holidays!!! this is very interesting,

do you have some photos of your setup.

also how are you pulsing your coil?

one more thing is i know is that when i let my system run the longer the system runs the louder it gets. i have also gotten a simple cell in distilled water and got some deafening loud bubbles...

a video would be most helpful!!!! :)

thanks! ~Russ

The holidays were crazy... but I am pleased to report that I did have some time to tinker...  My problem is being gone an average of 24 days a month, and never being home to do research.
Sorry I can't give you a video, the incident was about 4 years ago, but will try to do a sketchup to give you an idea...
Their was no pulse on the coil, or the cell, as it was all brute force electrolysis I merely wound a double strand of small (22ga.?) speaker wire around the top 1/4 of my 4.5 inch cell, and hooked one end to the positive terminal on the battery, and the other to the positive terminal on the cell.  This was not the main supply for the cell, rather a separate circuit.

oK... I drew a sketchup but the forum won't let me post it...

If you add your sketchup file to a zip folder, you can attatch that to the forum. :) I don't get much time at home either.  Another nomad in the group! :p

Nate

Here we go...  Thanks Nate!

Quote from DNKXP on January 4th, 2012, 02:34 PM

Ok, thanks Nate I will try that... yeah, the nomadic life got me about 26 years ago, and won't let go!!!  Even though I would rather be home researching this thing...  I have so many ideas, I will never live long enough to try them all!  Holding a steering wheel gives one a lot of time to come up with new ideas...

What we need is someone with the spare time to build ideas for us nomads! lol

Quote from firepinto on January 4th, 2012, 09:37 AM

Quote from DNKXP on January 4th, 2012, 09:28 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on January 3rd, 2012, 06:48 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 3rd, 2012, 08:45 AM

Wow! 2 days and no replies... now I am wondering if I am the only one who has had this experience, and if I should investigate it further to share my findings with the group, or if I'm just being ignored!  :D

i think life has been bizzy over the holidays!!! this is very interesting,

do you have some photos of your setup.

also how are you pulsing your coil?

one more thing is i know is that when i let my system run the longer the system runs the louder it gets. i have also gotten a simple cell in distilled water and got some deafening loud bubbles...

a video would be most helpful!!!! :)

thanks! ~Russ

The holidays were crazy... but I am pleased to report that I did have some time to tinker...  My problem is being gone an average of 24 days a month, and never being home to do research.
Sorry I can't give you a video, the incident was about 4 years ago, but will try to do a sketchup to give you an idea...
Their was no pulse on the coil, or the cell, as it was all brute force electrolysis I merely wound a double strand of small (22ga.?) speaker wire around the top 1/4 of my 4.5 inch cell, and hooked one end to the positive terminal on the battery, and the other to the positive terminal on the cell.  This was not the main supply for the cell, rather a separate circuit.

oK... I drew a sketchup but the forum won't let me post it...

If you add your sketchup file to a zip folder, you can attatch that to the forum. :) I don't get much time at home either.  Another nomad in the group! :p

Nate

Here we go...  Thanks Nate!

Just a quick update...
I don't understand the math, but I am getting a glimmering... basically YES, electrical fields do affect atomic particles passed through them.  Thanks freethisone for the M.I.T lec 22 you posted on your youtube channel!!!

https://www.youtube.com/user/freethisone?feature=mhum#p/search/0/-2HkKCoNGgg

Have a watch there :)  Nice VID!! My appologies, but the zip file keeps bots from posting files. . .although that problem may be fixed. . .

Quote from admin on January 16th, 2012, 05:37 PM

https://www.youtube.com/user/freethisone?feature=mhum#p/search/0/-2HkKCoNGgg

Have a watch there :)  Nice VID!! My appologies, but the zip file keeps bots from posting files. . .although that problem may be fixed. . .

Yeah I had noticed some problems there...  It IS a great video, and has a lot to do with the theory I have been perceiving...  If I can ever get time to plat with it... don't know that I will be able to find anyone willing to follow my thoughts who has time to experiment with them...

Quote from DNKXP on January 16th, 2012, 06:29 PM

Quote from admin on January 16th, 2012, 05:37 PM

https://www.youtube.com/user/freethisone?feature=mhum#p/search/0/-2HkKCoNGgg

Have a watch there :)  Nice VID!! My appologies, but the zip file keeps bots from posting files. . .although that problem may be fixed. . .

Yeah I had noticed some problems there...  It IS a great video, and has a lot to do with the theory I have been perceiving...  If I can ever get time to plat with it... don't know that I will be able to find anyone willing to follow my thoughts who has time to experiment with them...

freethisone is here... send him a message? ~Russ

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on January 17th, 2012, 01:35 AM

Quote from DNKXP on January 16th, 2012, 06:29 PM

Quote from admin on January 16th, 2012, 05:37 PM

https://www.youtube.com/user/freethisone?feature=mhum#p/search/0/-2HkKCoNGgg

Have a watch there :)  Nice VID!! My appologies, but the zip file keeps bots from posting files. . .although that problem may be fixed. . .

Yeah I had noticed some problems there...  It IS a great video, and has a lot to do with the theory I have been perceiving...  If I can ever get time to plat with it... don't know that I will be able to find anyone willing to follow my thoughts who has time to experiment with them...

freethisone is here... send him a message? ~Russ

Good idea, I hated to bother him, thought maybe he would read the thread and comment if he had time...

Quote from DNKXP on January 17th, 2012, 08:40 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on January 17th, 2012, 01:35 AM

Quote from DNKXP on January 16th, 2012, 06:29 PM

Quote from admin on January 16th, 2012, 05:37 PM

https://www.youtube.com/user/freethisone?feature=mhum#p/search/0/-2HkKCoNGgg

Have a watch there :)  Nice VID!! My appologies, but the zip file keeps bots from posting files. . .although that problem may be fixed. . .

Yeah I had noticed some problems there...  It IS a great video, and has a lot to do with the theory I have been perceiving...  If I can ever get time to plat with it... don't know that I will be able to find anyone willing to follow my thoughts who has time to experiment with them...

freethisone is here... send him a message? ~Russ

Good idea, I hated to bother him, thought maybe he would read the thread and comment if he had time...

This is a very interesting thread, DNKXP can you draw out a wiring diagram of the circuit you made in sketchup?

Quote from Jeff Nading on January 17th, 2012, 06:14 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 17th, 2012, 08:40 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on January 17th, 2012, 01:35 AM

Quote from DNKXP on January 16th, 2012, 06:29 PM

Quote from admin on January 16th, 2012, 05:37 PM

https://www.youtube.com/user/freethisone?feature=mhum#p/search/0/-2HkKCoNGgg

Have a watch there :)  Nice VID!! My appologies, but the zip file keeps bots from posting files. . .although that problem may be fixed. . .

Yeah I had noticed some problems there...  It IS a great video, and has a lot to do with the theory I have been perceiving...  If I can ever get time to plat with it... don't know that I will be able to find anyone willing to follow my thoughts who has time to experiment with them...

freethisone is here... send him a message? ~Russ

Good idea, I hated to bother him, thought maybe he would read the thread and comment if he had time...

This is a very interesting thread, DNKXP can you draw out a wiring diagram of the circuit you made in sketchup?

There hardly IS a circuit, but here is a crude diagram...  It was just straight DC in the coil, but I believe much greater results could be had at the right resonant frequency... I would have to researc the resonant freq. of hydrogen...  But such a coil driven by a by a Russtic should do the job.

Quote from DNKXP on January 18th, 2012, 04:23 PM

Quote from Jeff Nading on January 17th, 2012, 06:14 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 17th, 2012, 08:40 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on January 17th, 2012, 01:35 AM

Quote from DNKXP on January 16th, 2012, 06:29 PM

Yeah I had noticed some problems there...  It IS a great video, and has a lot to do with the theory I have been perceiving...  If I can ever get time to plat with it... don't know that I will be able to find anyone willing to follow my thoughts who has time to experiment with them...

freethisone is here... send him a message? ~Russ

Good idea, I hated to bother him, thought maybe he would read the thread and comment if he had time...

This is a very interesting thread, DNKXP can you draw out a wiring diagram of the circuit you made in sketchup?

There hardly IS a circuit, but here is a crude diagram...  It was just straight DC in the coil, but I believe much greater results could be had at the right resonant frequency... I would have to researc the resonant freq. of hydrogen...  But such a coil driven by a by a Russtic should do the job.

Thanks for the sketchup drawing DNKXP, this looks like what the gas gun could have going on in it.

Quote from Jeff Nading on January 18th, 2012, 07:34 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 18th, 2012, 04:23 PM

Quote from Jeff Nading on January 17th, 2012, 06:14 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 17th, 2012, 08:40 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on January 17th, 2012, 01:35 AM

freethisone is here... send him a message? ~Russ

Good idea, I hated to bother him, thought maybe he would read the thread and comment if he had time...

This is a very interesting thread, DNKXP can you draw out a wiring diagram of the circuit you made in sketchup?

There hardly IS a circuit, but here is a crude diagram...  It was just straight DC in the coil, but I believe much greater results could be had at the right resonant frequency... I would have to researc the resonant freq. of hydrogen...  But such a coil driven by a by a Russtic should do the job.

Thanks for the sketchup drawing DNKXP, this looks like what the gas gun could have going on in it.

:idea: I know it's not in line with replicating Stan Meyers' work, but wouldn't a simple coil be a more cost effective route if it got the same results? :D

Quote from DNKXP on January 29th, 2012, 05:41 AM

Quote from Jeff Nading on January 18th, 2012, 07:34 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 18th, 2012, 04:23 PM

Quote from Jeff Nading on January 17th, 2012, 06:14 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 17th, 2012, 08:40 AM

Good idea, I hated to bother him, thought maybe he would read the thread and comment if he had time...

This is a very interesting thread, DNKXP can you draw out a wiring diagram of the circuit you made in sketchup?

There hardly IS a circuit, but here is a crude diagram...  It was just straight DC in the coil, but I believe much greater results could be had at the right resonant frequency... I would have to researc the resonant freq. of hydrogen...  But such a coil driven by a by a Russtic should do the job.

Thanks for the sketchup drawing DNKXP, this looks like what the gas gun could have going on in it.

:idea: I know it's not in line with replicating Stan Meyers' work, but wouldn't a simple coil be a more cost effective route if it got the same results? :D

The big if would be the question, iiiiif it gave the same results, only way to find out is to test out the theory :D.

Kinda reminds me of the Hogg Electrolyser by selwyn harris (or hughes?) , It has spiral mesh electrodes with neo magnets in repulsion. Both north poles faceing the electrodes from the top. I currently am putting one together but have been held back by the problem of winding the electrodes. When its done ill run it up without the magnets and then with and compare results.

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf    Pages 20 on for the hogg electrolyser and pages  64 on are from the same guy showing how he converts a generator to run of his cell.

How was you double strand speaker wire in the diagram hooked up? both strands in paralell or joined at one end bifilar?

Quote from phil on January 29th, 2012, 01:53 PM

Kinda reminds me of the Hogg Electrolyser by selwyn harris (or hughes?) , It has spiral mesh electrodes with neo magnets in repulsion. Both north poles faceing the electrodes from the top. I currently am putting one together but have been held back by the problem of winding the electrodes. When its done ill run it up without the magnets and then with and compare results.

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf    Pages 20 on for the hogg electrolyser and pages  64 on are from the same guy showing how he converts a generator to run of his cell.

How was you double strand speaker wire in the diagram hooked up? both strands in paralell or joined at one end bifilar?

Parallel, with both strands connecting to the positive side of the cell...  Let me know when you do get some results, would love to see this, have SO many ideas and never time to experiment.  Alternatively, a person could also try a couple Rodin starship coils, or even build the ss coils as anodes around a central cathode tube... PS did you catch my other thread on the subject, http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=305

Quote from DNKXP on January 29th, 2012, 07:27 PM

Quote from phil on January 29th, 2012, 01:53 PM

Kinda reminds me of the Hogg Electrolyser by selwyn harris (or hughes?) , It has spiral mesh electrodes with neo magnets in repulsion. Both north poles faceing the electrodes from the top. I currently am putting one together but have been held back by the problem of winding the electrodes. When its done ill run it up without the magnets and then with and compare results.

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf    Pages 20 on for the hogg electrolyser and pages  64 on are from the same guy showing how he converts a generator to run of his cell.

How was you double strand speaker wire in the diagram hooked up? both strands in paralell or joined at one end bifilar?

Parallel, with both strands connecting to the positive side of the cell...  Let me know when you do get some results, would love to see this, have SO many ideas and never time to experiment.  Alternatively, a person could also try a couple Rodin starship coils, or even build the ss coils as anodes around a central cathode tube...
PS did you catch my other thread on the subject, http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=305

interesting

~Russ

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on January 29th, 2012, 09:24 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 29th, 2012, 07:27 PM

Quote from phil on January 29th, 2012, 01:53 PM

Kinda reminds me of the Hogg Electrolyser by selwyn harris (or hughes?) , It has spiral mesh electrodes with neo magnets in repulsion. Both north poles faceing the electrodes from the top. I currently am putting one together but have been held back by the problem of winding the electrodes. When its done ill run it up without the magnets and then with and compare results.

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf    Pages 20 on for the hogg electrolyser and pages  64 on are from the same guy showing how he converts a generator to run of his cell.

How was you double strand speaker wire in the diagram hooked up? both strands in paralell or joined at one end bifilar?

Parallel, with both strands connecting to the positive side of the cell...  Let me know when you do get some results, would love to see this, have SO many ideas and never time to experiment.  Alternatively, a person could also try a couple Rodin starship coils, or even build the ss coils as anodes around a central cathode tube...
PS did you catch my other thread on the subject, http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=305

interesting

~Russ

Thanx Russ, you never know what will go thru my mind... (prob clearing out a lot of good stuff in the process:D)  Hey if you get time, could you drop one of your old ssc in a bucket of water, stick a tube of some kind through the center of the coil as a cathode, then power the coil off your Russtic and let me know what happens?

Quote from DNKXP on January 30th, 2012, 06:48 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on January 29th, 2012, 09:24 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 29th, 2012, 07:27 PM

Quote from phil on January 29th, 2012, 01:53 PM

Kinda reminds me of the Hogg Electrolyser by selwyn harris (or hughes?) , It has spiral mesh electrodes with neo magnets in repulsion. Both north poles faceing the electrodes from the top. I currently am putting one together but have been held back by the problem of winding the electrodes. When its done ill run it up without the magnets and then with and compare results.

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf    Pages 20 on for the hogg electrolyser and pages  64 on are from the same guy showing how he converts a generator to run of his cell.

How was you double strand speaker wire in the diagram hooked up? both strands in paralell or joined at one end bifilar?

Parallel, with both strands connecting to the positive side of the cell...  Let me know when you do get some results, would love to see this, have SO many ideas and never time to experiment.  Alternatively, a person could also try a couple Rodin starship coils, or even build the ss coils as anodes around a central cathode tube...
PS did you catch my other thread on the subject, http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=305

interesting

~Russ

Thanx Russ, you never know what will go thru my mind... (prob clearing out a lot of good stuff in the process:D)  Hey if you get time, could you drop one of your old ssc in a bucket of water, stick a tube of some kind through the center of the coil as a cathode, then power the coil off your Russtic and let me know what happens?

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Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on January 29th, 2012, 09:24 PM

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Quote from phil on January 29th, 2012, 01:53 PM

Kinda reminds me of the Hogg Electrolyser by selwyn harris (or hughes?) , It has spiral mesh electrodes with neo magnets in repulsion. Both north poles faceing the electrodes from the top. I currently am putting one together but have been held back by the problem of winding the electrodes. When its done ill run it up without the magnets and then with and compare results.

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf    Pages 20 on for the hogg electrolyser and pages  64 on are from the same guy showing how he converts a generator to run of his cell.

How was you double strand speaker wire in the diagram hooked up? both strands in paralell or joined at one end bifilar?

Parallel, with both strands connecting to the positive side of the cell...  Let me know when you do get some results, would love to see this, have SO many ideas and never time to experiment.  Alternatively, a person could also try a couple Rodin starship coils, or even build the ss coils as anodes around a central cathode tube...
PS did you catch my other thread on the subject, http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=305

interesting

~Russ

Thanx Russ, you never know what will go thru my mind... (prob clearing out a lot of good stuff in the process:D)  Hey if you get time, could you drop one of your old ssc in a bucket of water, stick a tube of some kind through the center of the coil as a cathode, then power the coil off your Russtic and let me know what happens?

hummmm,

so the outer of the container is the postie?

~Russ

Quote from DNKXP on January 31st, 2012, 02:14 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 30th, 2012, 06:48 AM

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on January 29th, 2012, 09:24 PM

Quote from DNKXP on January 29th, 2012, 07:27 PM

Quote from phil on January 29th, 2012, 01:53 PM

Kinda reminds me of the Hogg Electrolyser by selwyn harris (or hughes?) , It has spiral mesh electrodes with neo magnets in repulsion. Both north poles faceing the electrodes from the top. I currently am putting one together but have been held back by the problem of winding the electrodes. When its done ill run it up without the magnets and then with and compare results.

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf    Pages 20 on for the hogg electrolyser and pages  64 on are from the same guy showing how he converts a generator to run of his cell.

How was you double strand speaker wire in the diagram hooked up? both strands in paralell or joined at one end bifilar?

Parallel, with both strands connecting to the positive side of the cell...  Let me know when you do get some results, would love to see this, have SO many ideas and never time to experiment.  Alternatively, a person could also try a couple Rodin starship coils, or even build the ss coils as anodes around a central cathode tube...
PS did you catch my other thread on the subject, http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=305

interesting

~Russ

Thanx Russ, you never know what will go thru my mind... (prob clearing out a lot of good stuff in the process:D)  Hey if you get time, could you drop one of your old ssc in a bucket of water, stick a tube of some kind through the center of the coil as a cathode, then power the coil off your Russtic and let me know what happens?

going to give some interesting testes to this thought when i get time... after watching this:  

https://vimeo.com/37306772

~Russ

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on March 6th, 2012, 03:02 AM

going to give some interesting testes to this thought when i get time... after watching this:  

https://vimeo.com/37306772

~Russ

Very interesting video.
Proton scattering via longitudinal waves?.. hmm