Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.

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Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.
« on November 26th, 2015, 10:38 AM »Last edited on November 26th, 2015, 11:53 AM
When Tesla studied magnetic field vectors he found some interesting observations that he wrote about. These were his studies of electrostatic voltages when B an H magnetic vector fields were not part of mathematic algorythms which I talked about in some recent posts.
See here: http://nrgnair.com/MPT/zdi_tech/tesla/common/radiant/TRE1.htm
Some people must have thought to themselves 'what are these algorythms' of which I spoke?
Tesla was a smart cookie, he had a natural understanding of mathematics and electronical engineering and could envision circuits inside his mind and tell people what a circuit would do before they even built it. He was born with a natural ability to do this which made him different from his contemporaries, just like Einstein was born with the ability to understand the macro and macro field physics - Tesla was the same but with Magnetic and Electric field physics.
Tesla discovered some significant things about coils operating in vector B and H cancelled fields.
It would take hours to go through the tiny details so I'm just going to be promp about it.
Firstly, inductors with cancelled magnetic fields or balanced magnetic fields are not seen as an inductor by the circuit but are seen as a capacitor.
Why is this?
Well firstly, induction is a calculation of a linear equasion and reactance to the magnetic field vectors. If the magnetic vectors are neutral then mathematic equasions concerning them change dramatically in electrostatic field theory.
This stands to reason because those B and H vectors are neutralized in any equasion but the coil still has reactance 90 degrees out of phase to the cancelled fields.
Where is the reactance?
Tesla tells us that reactance in a coil (that has neutral B and H vectors) is in a 360 degrees circle around every winding of the coil. So every winding has a reactance to wires to the left, right, top and bottom of it and that the reactance is purely capacitive in the beginning of an equasion.
What does that mean?
It means that in coils that have insulated wire and the wires are beside each other, the very first property of the coil is the dielectric relationship between the wires and the capacitive ability of that dielectric layer. All other reactances such as resistance and inductance are paracitic of the capacitance and its dielectric layer.
You said inductance was cancelled, why did you talk about inductance again?
This inductance is 90 degrees out of phase with the cancelled B and H vectors and is caused by capacitance and is totally paracitic of it.
To explain it we must imagine a massive string of capacitors wired in series that are 90 degrees out of phase with current. When you connect all the caps together the legs that you solder together are the resistance in the circuit and have an inductance value. In terms of a  coil its the thickness of the wire because the thickness of the wire is the connection between the capacitive regions. For it to be capacitive there has to be a gap between each respective capacitor or a 'defined seperation'. If there is no defined seperation,each capacitor in series would neutralize its neighbour with a dead short, therfore a resistance must exist between each defined capacitor. Now Tesla tells us that the more resistive the material is between the capacitors the more we can load it with voltage.
That means the resistance of the wire is important to define the capacitors but not the linear resistance of the wire, the resistance of the thickness of the wire!

The induction of the thickness of the wire.
Tesla measured this inductance to be very different to normal B and H vector values. He found that it travelled at multples of the speed of light and so did Moray and Dollard. Mainstream science argues that this is impossible because of Einsteins laws but Tesla was 50 times smarter than Maxwell, Faraday and Einstein all put together. Tesla wasn't the only one to prove Einstein wrong, modern calculations in Quantum entanglement have proven without any shadaow of doubt that energy can travel 1000's of times the speed of light. Einstein was a shill to keep people from probing into stuff they don't want probing like Tesla was doing.
Tesla found that the self capacitance of coil wire was related to its thickness and its sideways resistance and it had feck all to do with its linear resistance and linear inductance properties like Maxwell was saying. Maxwell couldn't cancel a linear vector potential if it smacked him in the face, he knew nothing about electrostatic potentials across wire like Tesla did.
Tesla knew that you could create massive electrostatic field potentials in coils depending on its resistive value and thickness of the wire to define capacitive regions devided by resistance zones, the more resistive those zones are, the more voltage could be obtained and the greater the number of turns, the more capacitance.
The inductance and resistance though in this 90 degrees out of phase mode is purely paracitic of the capacitance and as the resistance gets higher so does the voltage until you reach a point where its just an electrostatic potential that cancels the inductance, the resistance and the reactance value is just purely electrostatic. In other words the charge value overides any reactances.

How can we use this info in Meyer VICS?
We need to cancel the Magnetic vector fields in Stan's inductors and I've talked about how to contruct chokes so that we do this. We need to allow current to pass through his VIC at 5Khz and shunt it through the water and we know how to do that. We need to ping the inductors at 10Khz which is the second harmonic and I've showed how to do that by narrowing the 50% duty cycle, as the pulse narrows the 10Khz pings get stronger and stronger and the chokes get more and more energized.
The chokes need to be self resonant at where you ping them with the harmonic, the wire in the coils needs to be highly resistive 90 degrees out of phase not resistive at linear measurements and pretty thick gauge wire. If you had thin wire you won't be able to create the capacitive zones we talked about, for capacitance zones that can be high voltage they need high resistance because in each cross section of the wire is two semicircles of opposing charge. I have drawn a picture to show this.
We are nearly there trust me. The next part will deal with impedance matching the coils so you can get the electrostatic energy out of the chokes and into a cell without introducing current back into the situation.
So its the big momma, the biq question. How did Meyer match the coils charactaristics into his line and tubes?
To answer this we must go back to Tesla and listen to what he has to say. We have become so embroiled by Maxwell, Faraday and Lens that we cannot sometimes see the wood for the trees but Tesla has been telling us all along.
First of all we have to determine what device we are dealing with and what the circuit see's. Tesla says and is correct by assuming the choke acts like a capacitor not like an inductor because the vector fields are missing. Therefore we cannot try to match the coils impedance because all calculations concerning such do not exist.
There is only the 90 degrees out of phase voltage field and its properties to contend with and the only factor in this arrangement that we can match is its dc resistance. Tesla tells us that the wires transporting the electrostatic field must match its dc resistance.
The coil's mode of transport is across its windings not its linear electrical length where the vectors fields have been cancelled!
So to match the coil to the cell we are matching a bank of small capacitors to a large capacitor at the same dc resistance. The dc resistance of the line in between the chokes and the tubes MUST match the total dc resistance of the choke.
To measure this you need an identical coil of the same gauge wire with no insulation I would imagine then measure its dc resistance across the windings NOT through the wire. I need to have a think about this and see what Tesla has to say but if anyone has any input on this it would be very much appreciated.
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Re: Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.
« Reply #2, on November 26th, 2015, 11:46 AM »
Remember this too. Electrical wire has a different dc resistance in linear mode than it does through it sideways. This is because it is drawn processed. When Stan mentions highly resistive wire you now know why.
No probs Lynx, its a pleasure. I set off years ago to kick JP Morgan in the bolox for what he did to Tesla and thats exactly what i'm gonna do.


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Re: Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.
« Reply #4, on November 26th, 2015, 12:58 PM »
Quote from Lynx on November 26th, 2015, 12:48 PM
Morgan was all about money and I'm guessing he also had to please his masters in turn as it's very bad business investing in energy revolutionizing technologies...........to put it mildly.
I think the same people poisoned Stan. Eventually we will get there but I hope the world is still here and intact when we do. It seems the world is a very violent place at the moment but not because of people but because of idiots with power pressing the wrong buttons.
If we turned weapons of war on the idiots telling everyone to kill each other the world would have peace but we just carry on the killing no questions asked.


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Re: Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.
« Reply #6, on November 26th, 2015, 01:58 PM »Last edited on November 26th, 2015, 02:12 PM
Quote from Ris on November 26th, 2015, 01:28 PM
wire always has the same resistance no matter where you measure-but when through the same wire you let AC electricity things are changing dramatically
Wire cannot have the same resistance linear fashion to what it is 90 degrees out of phase sideways fashion ac or dc.
In ac transmitter cable for example the velocity factor is different in some coax than it is others. In some coax it is 66% while in others it is 78% but the impedance is the same at 50 Ohms, why?
Because the reactance and the dielectric properties are constructed and made to give the value of 50 Ohms. The dc resistance of that coax cannot be the same if one has a velocity factor of 66% and the other is 78% and neither can the ac impedance. Its the reactance of coax that causes the impedance figures.
How can the dc resistance of a choke be the same for linear mode and winding to winding? thats like saying the dc resistance is the same on a wire as it is on a big square plate or thinner wire is the same resistive value as thick wire?

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Re: Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.
« Reply #7, on November 26th, 2015, 03:01 PM »Last edited on November 26th, 2015, 03:15 PM
Look at it this way Ris in this hyperthetical, you are transmitting dc voltage along a tube that has a 2 inch diameter and is 12 inches long. The tube has a dc resistance measurement. You wish to transfer the same dc resistance measurement to the circuit that the tube is in. You can use thinner but longer tubes that give you the same resistance to do the job because the resistance is measured in volts per square inch of the tube material. That is the case in Stans choke, you find its dc resistance across its windings not linear down its cancelled magnetic field then you match its dc resistance with thinner and longer tubes. Both have the same amount of volts per square inch.
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So if Stans coil has a dc resistance value, you chose a cable width and length that matches, one for each inductor on the VIC.

brettly

Re: Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.
« Reply #8, on November 28th, 2015, 12:35 AM »
I think this thread is quite important, matching the chokes to the wfc tubes ( or injector cone) is something I haven't seen any detailed information on ( its somewhat of an unsolved mystery). I must admit some of the discussion is beyond my understanding, but its helpful information indeed.

Just a bit off topic: since the speed of wave front of electric field in the tubes ( or injector) is travelling at close to the speed of light, it means in one second that wave front could travel around the world approximately 7 times...........in one second.........its very fast wave front.




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Re: Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.
« Reply #12, on November 28th, 2015, 03:40 AM »Last edited on November 28th, 2015, 04:06 AM
Quote from brettly on November 28th, 2015, 12:35 AM
I think this thread is quite important, matching the chokes to the wfc tubes ( or injector cone) is something I haven't seen any detailed information on ( its somewhat of an unsolved mystery). I must admit some of the discussion is beyond my understanding, but its helpful information indeed.

Just a bit off topic: since the speed of wave front of electric field in the tubes ( or injector) is travelling at close to the speed of light, it means in one second that wave front could travel around the world approximately 7 times...........in one second.........its very fast wave front.
An important aspect to consider is the secondary in the VIC. The secondary is running at 5Khz drive frequency in mode 1 when the chokes are being pinged with 10Khz, there is enough flux leakage in the chokes to allow 5Khz to pass and current be shunted through the water. During the gate or V0 of the pulse when the VIC goes into mode 2 and the chokes collapse, what does the mode 2 circuit see the secondary as?
We need the secondary to be seen as the same dc resistance that can pass the voltage from the chokes into the tubes. So the secondary MUST have the same dc resistance value as the chokes and the wires to the tubes. The diode causes this voltage to be biased in one direction and the toroid core passes no magnetic fields at 10Khz frequency.
Because there are no vector fields in the toroid core during mode 2 WE MUST assume that the secondary is passing voltage 90 degrees out of phase with the magnetic vectors. I was hoping someone would spot this and sort of get on board with it.
The secondary coil is tuned to the same 10Khz as the chokes are, it has to be to pass voltage 90 degrees out of phase in cancelled vectors while giving the same dc resistance value.
So now we have FOUR tuned dc resistance values, the two chokes, the secondary and the wires to the tubes. I'll bet anyone that the windings on the secondary are the same as the chokes.
Now, because the voltage is biased by the diode on the positive side first then that is a fixed value but coils can never be 100% accurate in their dc resistance so there needs to be a variable on the negative side to compensate for this and Stan always shows his negative choke to be variable to tune the whole circuit in.

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Re: Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.
« Reply #13, on November 28th, 2015, 04:04 AM »
A very interesting fact: The biased voltage on the positive side is the start of a capacitance in the tubes and the negative side is a reactance value. The reactance is two stage, firstly it is a voltage reactance and secondly it is a dc resistance reactance to the leading edge of the 10Khz pulse frequency. It may well be that the wiper arm on the negative choke can tune the reactance of the wires to the tubes so that the length of those wires becomes less important.

gpssonar

Re: Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.
« Reply #14, on November 28th, 2015, 04:47 AM »Last edited on November 28th, 2015, 05:05 AM
Nav, I have been watching every post of yours, and I am on board with everything you been saying. Your posting some very very important information and people should take notice of it. I am bound to a promise that I have made to my team members and can't comment directly on how all this works. But i can comment on things that I have posted in my thread that has been shared with everyone. You will find in that thread how I described how I started out at 2 volts of voltage to the VIC and tuned, then went to 4 volts and tuned again and keep doing this all the way through 8 to 10 volts. Once you get to a certain voltage no more tuning is needed and you can keep raising the voltage to the design of the transformer. With Stan's circuits all this is done with his scanning circuits ect. But if your doing it manually like I have, this is the way it must be done to keep from burning things up. Just about everyone has looked over this information and it is very important, It tells a story about what is going on in the VIC verses the cell. Something is changing during each voltage step, ask yourself what is changing and add that with the information you are posting. Another piece of information that i can share is my only video of my VIC and the spark plug. It also shows information that no one picked up on. If they did no one ever ask questions about it. That spark plug was gaped at the same size as Stan's cells, It had a dielectric value of air and that's all i can say about it. Put this information with yours and keep up the great work.

PS. One other thing i can say is, the first 2 volts starts the polarization process and first signs of gas production.

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Re: Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.
« Reply #15, on November 28th, 2015, 05:02 AM »
Quote from gpssonar on November 28th, 2015, 04:47 AM
Nav, I have been watching every post of yours, and I am on board with everything you been saying. Your posting some very very important information and people should take notice of it. I am bound to a promise that I have made to my team members and can't comment directly how all this works. But i can comment on things that I have posted in my thread that has been shared with everyone. You will find in that thread how I described how I started out at 2 volts of voltage to the VIC and tuned, then went to 4 volts and tuned again and keep doing this all the way through 8 to 10 volts. Once you get to a certain voltage no more tuning is needed and you can keep raising the voltage to the design of the transformer. With Stan's circuits all this is done with his scanning circuits ect. But if your doing it manually like I have, this is the way it must be done to keep from burning things up. Just about everyone has looked over this information and it is very important, It tells a story about what is going on in the VIC verses the cell. Something is changing during each voltage step, ask yourself what is changing and add that with the information you are posting. Another piece of information that i can share is my only video of my VIC and the spark plug. It also shows information that no one picked up on. If they did no one ever ask questions about it. That spark plug was gaped at the same size as Stan's cells, It had a dielectric value of air and that's all i can say about it. Put this information with yours and keep up the great work.
The parameter that changes during the step charge process is the massive voltage drop at the end of the gating period as if a dead short has taken place so I would imagine that if you didn't want the water to reach dielectric breakdown then you would need a Tesla spark gap in parallel with the cell.
I'm going to look at the circuit and ask myself the questions you mentioned.




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Re: Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.
« Reply #19, on November 28th, 2015, 06:00 AM »
The only thing in my head at the moment that I know of is that as you raise the voltage, the frequency changes and the circuit detunes itself so you need to link the input voltage to the drive frequency.
The circuit is hard to determine in a short video, i'd need a schematic to really see. I see an input voltage is being switched by probably an RCA3055, the switching is controlled by the board which has 2 pots probably 1k or 10k pots. I see the 1198n but what is the audio transformer driving? The board?
The system would have to be tuned to the spark gap and dielectric property of air rather than a cell I suppose. So the spark gap would be a reactance which is constant. If it was a cell and acting like a capacitor as the cell approaches full charge then it would change the reactance of the circuit.

gpssonar

Re: Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.
« Reply #20, on November 28th, 2015, 06:33 AM »
This circuit is nothing more than Stan's 9xa driving circuit hooked to the VIC. The small transformer is just supplying voltage to the board. Max Miller showed this circuit at his conference just a few days ago that was on the table that he blew up. I built that several years back for proof of concept. Just goes to show everyone how far behind Max really is. He has a long way to go yet. Nav, just in what I have seen in your post, you understand more than most people including Max Miller. it want be long and you will see results of your hard work. Keep up the great work your doing, I have the up most faith in you getting and seeing results.

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Re: Tesla: Coil knowledge and Stan's VIC, transporting electrostatics in a network.
« Reply #21, on November 29th, 2015, 05:06 AM »
Quote from gpssonar on November 28th, 2015, 06:33 AM
This circuit is nothing more than Stan's 9xa driving circuit hooked to the VIC. The small transformer is just supplying voltage to the board. Max Miller showed this circuit at his conference just a few days ago that was on the table that he blew up. I built that several years back for proof of concept. Just goes to show everyone how far behind Max really is. He has a long way to go yet. Nav, just in what I have seen in your post, you understand more than most people including Max Miller. it want be long and you will see results of your hard work. Keep up the great work your doing, I have the up most faith in you getting and seeing results.
It isn't easy to do what we're doing having to reverse engineer Stans work. I appreciate the work that you have put in Ronnie and understand how difficult it has been. Its not easy and takes years.
Thanks