This is a design that use HHO to create a water hammer effect to power a generator using a pelton wheel.
Enjoy my video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urAYt10bw70
TLR
Enjoy my video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urAYt10bw70
TLR
HHO water power pelton wheel turbine.
Pretty sure I saw the lamp begin to glow which explains why the wheel stopped so quickly--it's under load.
Very nice Tom.
Now all you need is multiple cannons so you can fire them in sequence and let each one have a chance to recharge.
Very nice Tom.
Now all you need is multiple cannons so you can fire them in sequence and let each one have a chance to recharge.
TommeyLReed
Re: HHO water power pelton wheel turbine.
« Reply #2, on August 3rd, 2015, 12:28 PM »Last edited on August 3rd, 2015, 12:39 PM
Hi Matt,
Yes it did light up the bulbs and even blown my light tester.
I used only 0.5L of HHO. It was about 60v peek, and also the water jet needs to bend around the pelton wheel for better efficiency.
The system works very well, I'm building a complete HHO water turbine and looping the water to create electricity.
I won't have the data of input/output untill a complete system is set up and running, but it looks very good so far.
Tom
Yes it did light up the bulbs and even blown my light tester.
I used only 0.5L of HHO. It was about 60v peek, and also the water jet needs to bend around the pelton wheel for better efficiency.
The system works very well, I'm building a complete HHO water turbine and looping the water to create electricity.
I won't have the data of input/output untill a complete system is set up and running, but it looks very good so far.
Tom
Matt Watts
Re: HHO water power pelton wheel turbine.
« Reply #3, on August 3rd, 2015, 12:39 PM »Last edited on August 3rd, 2015, 12:42 PM
You know, I was wondering something... Gravity...
Do you suppose anything could be gained by somehow firing the cannon or tubing the output of it to aim downward? I'm seeing a two-sided issue that you are going to pay for gravity no matter what, but on the other hand, can a bit more work be performed when the water at velocity is travelling in the direction of gravity--more than it costs to pump it back up to that position. It's that same stupid idea I've had with gravity engines. Gravity is an acceleration, not a constant velocity. So if you have to pump water uphill at a constant velocity X, that would be different then blasting the water downhill starting at velocity X * 100 + Y (the increase in velocity you get by gravity). If the velocity of the water hitting the pelton wheel is considerably faster than it was when it left the opening of the water cannon, I just can't help but think you get a little more out of the system with just minimal geometric changes to the design.
I'm probably not explaining well enough, but hopefully you can see where I'm coming from. If not, say so and I'll try to explain it better. Just have a gut feeling there is something else there to look at.
Do you suppose anything could be gained by somehow firing the cannon or tubing the output of it to aim downward? I'm seeing a two-sided issue that you are going to pay for gravity no matter what, but on the other hand, can a bit more work be performed when the water at velocity is travelling in the direction of gravity--more than it costs to pump it back up to that position. It's that same stupid idea I've had with gravity engines. Gravity is an acceleration, not a constant velocity. So if you have to pump water uphill at a constant velocity X, that would be different then blasting the water downhill starting at velocity X * 100 + Y (the increase in velocity you get by gravity). If the velocity of the water hitting the pelton wheel is considerably faster than it was when it left the opening of the water cannon, I just can't help but think you get a little more out of the system with just minimal geometric changes to the design.
I'm probably not explaining well enough, but hopefully you can see where I'm coming from. If not, say so and I'll try to explain it better. Just have a gut feeling there is something else there to look at.
Hi Matt,
I think I understand what you are saying.
Gravity works in both ways, either pushing water downward or upwards, it will take energy to move the water up or down to reload for the next firing point.
Tom
I think I understand what you are saying.
Gravity works in both ways, either pushing water downward or upwards, it will take energy to move the water up or down to reload for the next firing point.
Tom
kenssurplus
Re: HHO water power pelton wheel turbine.
« Reply #5, on August 4th, 2015, 08:07 PM »Last edited on August 4th, 2015, 08:16 PM
Hey Tom,
What a great fun experiment to work on. A while ago (couple of years now) I built an impulse water wheel. It was spraying water EVERYWHERE! :D
Just glancing at your topic again tonight gave me a flash of an idea. I will share it with yall to see if any of you think it has any merit.
I envisioned a closed "can" - say something like a pringles can attached to the rim of the wheel. Inside the can is a ball or a piston, or other weight that can move from one end of the can to the other, Now, I don't know how to do this, but if you could inject a SMALL amount of HHO into the closed can, and fire it in front of the wieght, it would shoot the ball, piston, weight etc. to the other end of the can giving a good whack to the wheel at the stop end of the can. Now envision many cans attached to the rim of the wheel each giviing a good whack impulse to the wheel. You could even time them so that they would fire only when the weights inside of the cans would be in an overbalanced condition - thus taking advantage of gravity.
Anyway, just an idea that presented itself.
<EDIT>
Woah, and then I read Matt's post after I posted this and now feel like Fred Flinstone saying he thought a thought right after Barney had already suggested it. Oh well, back to the quarry I go.
</EDIT>
What a great fun experiment to work on. A while ago (couple of years now) I built an impulse water wheel. It was spraying water EVERYWHERE! :D
Just glancing at your topic again tonight gave me a flash of an idea. I will share it with yall to see if any of you think it has any merit.
I envisioned a closed "can" - say something like a pringles can attached to the rim of the wheel. Inside the can is a ball or a piston, or other weight that can move from one end of the can to the other, Now, I don't know how to do this, but if you could inject a SMALL amount of HHO into the closed can, and fire it in front of the wieght, it would shoot the ball, piston, weight etc. to the other end of the can giving a good whack to the wheel at the stop end of the can. Now envision many cans attached to the rim of the wheel each giviing a good whack impulse to the wheel. You could even time them so that they would fire only when the weights inside of the cans would be in an overbalanced condition - thus taking advantage of gravity.
Anyway, just an idea that presented itself.
<EDIT>
Woah, and then I read Matt's post after I posted this and now feel like Fred Flinstone saying he thought a thought right after Barney had already suggested it. Oh well, back to the quarry I go.
</EDIT>
<EDIT>
Woah, and then I read Matt's post after I posted this and now feel like Fred Flinstone saying he thought a thought right after Barney had already suggested it. Oh well, back to the quarry I go.
</EDIT>
I get that all the time at work. I even came up with a phase to tag it with:
"Not invented here."
:thumbsup2:
Hi all,
This is a experiment I did a few weeks ago showing the expand HHO gas in a 20L scuba tank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCKHUoHmqbA
Tom
This is a experiment I did a few weeks ago showing the expand HHO gas in a 20L scuba tank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCKHUoHmqbA
Tom