Ris, let's not worry about who is better than others. Let's all support each other and show our God given talents that he has given us all. It's like Russ said, and I've said this also. They are many different way's to skin a cat.

Quote from Gunther Rattay on February 2nd, 2015, 10:28 PM

ok, thanks. let´s see.

Gunther,
How much would it cost me for a complete p-gen setup ?

Quote from hydrofuelincanada on February 3rd, 2015, 05:32 AM

How much would it cost me for a complete p-gen setup ?

Everything should be here:
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2049.0

If not, Gunther please update as necessary.

People make mistakes... It’s part of human nature.
Look at the bridge rectifiers in the next schematic. :s

Quote from Matt Watts on February 3rd, 2015, 05:45 AM

Everything should be here:
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2049.0

If not, Gunther please update as necessary.

thanks Matt, yes, that sales information is up to date :-)

and let me add this for information:

http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2065.0 Your complete gated pulse generator up and running for less than 70 bucks

It was a simple question--and really is Germans are better than others(if you need something really good,Germans will do it best as for example cars)I live much closer to Germany so I know what I'm saying.
but now I have another problem---I received a warning for my misbehavior
so why he can comment Neals behavior-and when I comment on him, I get a warning

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Also to Nav, Sorry about taking your thread off topic. I will be more careful in the future.
Thanks Gpssonar

No probs at all, its all good stuff.

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P.S
I see a great hazard for WFC researchers
due to the high voltages involved there is a real risk of arcing between electrodes within a WFC cell

If the tubes are submerged, even with 70 amp brute force methods that produce quite a lot of gas seem to be ok. I know what you mean though, because if you have vast a amount of kilovolts and all of a sudden there is a huge dielectric breakdown then it could possibly explode the gas in the top cavity of the cell. There is a simple failsafe in such a situation though:-
If you place a spark gap in parallel with the cell, where the breakdown voltage of the spark gap is less than the breakdown voltage of the cell in water, then you can make it almost impossible for the cell to ark out. If voltage continues to build while the spark gap is in operation and approaches the breakdown of the cell yet again then you could place several spark gaps in parallel as a safeguard but I think one spark gap would do it. You can buy adjustable SG's for about seven dollars so you can set breakdown point where it suits.

a spark in the water will create a serious amount of current. well tuned inductors could avoid current flow at sparking level.
there are lots of details we don´t know up to now.
imagine the small single bubbles between the tubes being separated from the others by water. can a leverage effect create an explosion of more than one bubble etc. ...
another interesting question how the creation of gas bubbles changes the electrodes´ impedance and how to adjust.

Quote from Ris on February 3rd, 2015, 06:37 AM

It was a simple question--and really is Germans are better than others(if you need something really good,Germans will do it best as for example cars)I live much closer to Germany so I know what I'm saying.
but now I have another problem---I received a warning for my misbehavior
so why he can comment Neals behavior-and when I comment on him, I get a warning

Ris, a moderator here decided outside of my decision to give you a warning. and it was done with good intention.

I understand your questioning of why you would get this. first, that comment (whether it be true or not { for example cars or even tools}) is completely irrelevant on this forum.  that comment is not something we do here to  " lift others up"  maybe that question in your native context is not degrading but in my context it is. and it was something that should not have been posted here on this forum.

we like constructive criticism here on the forum. it is what moves things forward. unfortunately that comment was not constructive criticism.

there is this tension between this "group" and anyone else out there. its like a battle field. maybe some don't see it this way. but with what has been said over the last several days. I can see it clearly. and i can also see that deep down we all want to work together, even if we agree to disagree. we can work together with our differences.

so please condenser what comments are " degrading or inappropriate"  as that is a rule that we must enforce here on the forum to keep everyone working together.

this is not about one person or one group. this is about us all, and the better for mankind.

~Russ

http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2065.0       if you can comment on that something is good, so can I  and yes  my comment is very relevant   as you said  we like constructive criticism here on the forum  then why does he think that his way is better and more valuable so why he does not listen when someone says that something is better,why he comments on other people's flaws and its not seen  so why I have a feeling that he thinks he's smarter and better than others(This applies to all of you) ,and you said that we must work together so Why do you refuse to work together why you can not accept positive criticism ,criticism and respect the opinions of others is responsible for good buisness,after all,  we all use only 15% of brain capacityso so in reality no one is a lot smarter from others the difference is only in the fact that some of us have better ideas

Quote from Ris on February 3rd, 2015, 09:05 AM

http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=2065.0       if you can comment on that something is good, so can I  and yes  my comment is very relevant   as you said  we like constructive criticism here on the forum  then why does he think that his way is better and more valuable so why he does not listen when someone says that something is better,why he comments on other people's flaws and its not seen  so why I have a feeling that he thinks he's smarter and better than others(This applies to all of you) ,and you said that we must work together so Why do you refuse to work together why you can not accept positive criticism ,criticism and respect the opinions of others is responsible for good buisness,after all,  we all use only 15% of brain capacityso so in reality no one is a lot smarter from others the difference is only in the fact that some of us have better ideas

Ris, you can ask those questions with out wording it the way you did. you classified " all German's"  that the same as racism. that is not tolerated.  this is what i mean by "out of context."

then you posted:

" why does he think that his way is better and more valuable so why he does not listen when someone says that something is better,why he comments on other people's flaws and its not seen  so why I have a feeling that he thinks he's smarter and better than others"

That is the proper way to ask a question. this is the point I'm trying to make. you must watch how you say things. its a lesson i have learned over the years.

"and you said that we must work together so Why do you refuse to work together why you can not accept positive criticism"

I'm not sure why you think i refuse to work together... i don't even have a comment on this one as i don't know where i haven't worked together under my own power. sure a lot of others stopped working together with me but that was not my choice. it was the other person's or group's

 in the past i have had a hard time excepting positive criticism, but for the last 2+ years i have learned how to except it and have not maid a big deal out of such a positive criticism. i have fund it helpful. one just needs to look at it that wright way.

"respect the opinions of others is responsible for good buisness"
now there is the word. respect.

"after all,  we all use only 15% of brain capacityso so in reality no one is a lot smarter from others the difference is only in the fact that some of us have better ideas"

just because others have better ideas than some of " us" just means we all have a different way of thinking about it. In your eyes your ideas will look better than my ideas in my eyes. that's the way it is.

@All
so now that we understand that some ideas are better than others dose not mean that we should talk down to those other ideas. it just means that if we don't have anything positive to say. ( including positive criticism) then we should not say anything at all.

am i the only one that remembers the quote  " if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"

i think ill change this to " if you don't have anything helpful to say, don't say anything at all"

helpful:
cooperative, accommodating, kind, caring, friendly, neighbourly, sympathetic, supportive, benevolent, considerate, beneficent, useful, practical, productive, profitable, constructive, serviceable, beneficial, advantageous, expedient, favourable

just some thoughts...

~Russ