Crazy Enigma

Heuristicobfuscation

Crazy Enigma
« on November 1st, 2014, 08:27 AM »
 
 
Crazy Enigma
 

 
Insane people tend to create a fictional world around them ... in essence they live in a fantasy world. Inside there own bubble they create and destroy there own reality....outside of that bubble well a different World exist.
 
so
 
how is this measured?  That is Sanity.?
 
(an overly simplified explanation)..   ones reality must be in phase with the majority of peoples reality.... everybody's perception alike. If  I see blue sky  and you see blue sky everything is ok.  If I see pink elephant and you see bird now there is a dent in reality and one of us is not heallty...
 
Example:  Ten people  in a room see a house and they all agree it is a white house
                except one of them he sees it black with a pink elephant that has wings ....
 
                Is he insane?   Well according to majority's perception of reality........ yes ....
 
 
 
Well a counter argument emerges;
                                                   
What if the individual who saw the black house was
the psychiatrist?
 
 
 
How does the majority tell the psychiatrist that his perception of reality is wrong?
 
How does the psychiatrist tell the majority that their collective perception is twisted?
 
 
 
 
now the big question...
 
If you were in that group how can you find the truth?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Alice in Wonderland.

 
'But I don’t want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can’t help that,' said the Cat. 'We’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.'
'How do you know I’m mad?' said Alice.
'You must be,” said the Cat. 'or you wouldn’t have come here.'”
 

Matt Watts

Re: Crazy Enigma
« Reply #1, on November 1st, 2014, 11:15 AM »
Quote from Heuristicobfuscation on November 1st, 2014, 08:27 AM
now the big question...
 
If you were in that group how can you find the truth?
The way it was explained to me is:

You have to trust your gut.

Some call it their "inner voice"; others "God".  Whatever IT is, IT needs to lead you in the direction of understanding by passed example.


I've never really liked the term "sanity".  I prefer the term "awareness", due to its link with consciousness.

Gunther would be the guy to really explain this.

Gunther Rattay

Re: Crazy Enigma
« Reply #2, on November 1st, 2014, 12:59 PM »Last edited on November 1st, 2014, 01:06 PM
In this universe nothing is absolute. we are always longing for orientation so we define some aspects as absolute for us.

quantum physics shows that the observer influences an experiment.

so once more here mind is the important subject. in fact our mind creates all kinds of sensations we can perceive. physical universe contains nothing else than energy fields or let´s call them fields of information.

mind decodes these information and creates sensations thru our "physical" senses and we are experiencing excitation of some kind.

so the sentence "this world is an illusion" is correct in the way that information fields are interpreted as something substantial.

compare it to a DVD. the DVD does contain nothing but data on a carrier and decoding the DVD by a player and watching the video creates the illusion of reality.

mind is sexy ...

so there is no absolute orientation for sanity. majority will decide but majority is wrong sometimes.

the only orientation for general rules in this illusionary universe is Mother Nature because nature performs general rules of energy, matter, physics, chemestry and biology. We could call nature the Master Interpreter.

So it´s obvious that the amount of awareness, curiosity and focus decides how much "reality" can be perceived = decoded.

an extended mind is a high performer ;-)

Gunther Rattay

Re: Crazy Enigma
« Reply #3, on November 2nd, 2014, 01:31 AM »Last edited on November 2nd, 2014, 01:27 AM
referring to "matter"  and energy there are some basic rules we can derive from the universe:

1. everything is in motion, there is no stagnation.

so how comes that matter exists? everyday´s life interprets matter as something permanent.

2. to create "matter" from energy fluctuation there is one unique motion that makes matter fixed in place: Spin

spin is a principle that consolidates fixation and motion concurrently.

so spin is the most elementary motion in this universe. it´s a building concept for matter.

3. another basic rule is that building concepts for the universe are valid on all scales of existence.
that´s the reason why motion dynamics at atomic level are the same as at planetary level (moon around the earth, earth around the sun) and at galactic level (sun around the center of the milkyway)

4. the rule of diversification based on simple basic concepts results in self-similarity at different scales. basic elements are combined to something more complex (for example chemestry). this rule of diversification creates richness and expansion. this diversification we call "life".

5. these basic rules also apply to human mind. diversification and expansion are mandatory for continuation of life.

once an individual or a community or a civilization is turning in circles instead of diversing and expanding their individual or collective mind they no longer participate to the dynamics of life.

Mother Nature will take care for elemination of this outdated entity. nature´s tools to do so are extremely powerful.

why are we not allowed to continue our way of "life"? because we are suppressing and annihilating other lifeforms who also are important and equitable building blocks of life.

virusses, bacteria, genetic modifications, weather changes, changes in magnetic field, earthquakes, tsunamis, asteroids, sunflares, highest radiation thru gamma-ray bursts from outer space, ... and there are other tools we have no idea of. some of them are described in the bible. how could those writers know? their mind got access to superior information :-)

and this is the fun part: it´s good to understand some aspect, of course. if one can´t understand an aspect he has to believe in that aspect. his belief will cover the timespan needed to create a superior understanding of the aspect. so belief (= acceptance) is important because it´s the opposite of ignorance. one can´t get an understanding of something he ignores.
to ignore something means to take away curiosity, focus and attention from that subject. believing means to stay focussed to the subject. curiosity, focus and attention are mandatory for expansion of mind. they are the fundamentals for plurality. it´s awareness.

to believe in something one has to be faithful. that way psychology comes into play  and aspects like trust, self-confidence are meaningful.


our present situation of global human civilization is that majority´s mind is stuck in dead end concepts for too long.

that´s insane from a cosmic perspective.

nevertheless each individual has a choice to "reanimate" his individual mind. it´s more difficult than being supported by collective mind (-> Rupert Sheldrake´s concept or morphogenetic fields) but it works :-)

An individual is powerful enough to expand his mind against the mainstream dynamics.

Mind is sexy ...


Gunther Rattay

Re: Crazy Enigma
« Reply #4, on November 2nd, 2014, 01:09 AM »Last edited on November 2nd, 2014, 01:14 AM
Quote from Matt Watts on November 1st, 2014, 11:15 AM
The way it was explained to me is:

You have to trust your gut.

Some call it their "inner voice"; others "God".  Whatever IT is, IT needs to lead you in the direction of understanding by passed example.

...
we also call it intuition. why does it work? cosmic mind absolutely knows than man can´t understand the complexity of the universe. cosmic mind wants the play of life to continue because life creates diversification and plurality.

that way intuition is a life saving and life preserving mechanism for human beings to make decisions independently from analysis and understanding.

some of us (me too) may have experienced a life threatening situation like a car accident as a driver. once the situation escalates something takes over and conscious mind is forced into a state of observation in slow motion. within seconds one´s body performs all necessary action to survive the situation; faster than the individual could do by analyzing the situation and taking conscious action.

that´s intuition as a survival tool. it´s a gift.

~Russ

Re: Crazy Enigma
« Reply #5, on November 3rd, 2014, 08:01 AM »
all good info here.

~Russ