Hy folks,
for a long time I was tring to figure out, what the VIC was doing with the WFC and what effect can happen. So I decided to do it strictly from the electrotechnical science side and come to following conclusion for me.
We all read about the not working VIC or similar devices, which are not able to set up a voltage between the plates/tubes that is high enough to split the water molecul as stan described it. Maybe some of you recognized that we all have the same problem, that the voltage on the cell is breaking down to ~2V and some current flows through.
But maybe this was exactly what Stan want....?
Here comes the explanation:
Electrolyses is based on current, the gas output is directly proportional to the current through the cell. But there is a minimum voltage needed to trigger the process: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis#Electrolysis_of_water ..... it is 1,23V
So to be high efficient (maybe 97-99%) the best way to do the electrolysis process is to use the voltage near 1,23V. Then there should be no heat losses (cool to the touch :exclamation:).
In several simulations and real setups I noticed that all circuits of meyer (until the injector) when using the chokes, the voltage at the water tubes always break down to 1,4-1,7V.
The idea is, to use such a circuit, to be high efficient with the electrolyses process! So maybe Stan was knowing this, but was not able to do a patent on efficient electrolyses. So he wrote down more like a fairy story do have a patent on the circuits doing the efficient electrolysis.
What does the ciruit do indeed: The chokes are like a very high resistor if you put high frequency on it. Never mind if they are in resonance or not. The resistance of an 1,1H choke with that high frequency is when compared to the WFC nearly infinite. In this setup the circuit works like a bleeder/voltage divider, this means, only the exact necessary voltage for electrolysis is created on the WFC to keep up the current flowing. It is like in a diode, the foward-bias. So yesterday I did a simulation on two diodes how this can look like. (Attachment).
So the WFC acts like a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyback_diode , the voltage on the secondary side always will break down to the forward bias of the WFC cell creating hydrogen and not heat like in a diode. The gas output depending on the internal resistance of the WFC.
I know there are two different kind of VICs, but I think for the WFC he took the VIC with copper wire (without extra resitance).
By the way, we also tried an alternator without automatic regulation inside. And it worked similar. If the WFC is big enough, the resistance will be very tiny and the (idling) voltage of the alternator will break down to a minimum, like a back EFM is cancelled by a flyback diode.
Whenever Stan did this or not, it is a nice finding, which everyone can replicate and try to get the best efficient electrolysis. :D
Excuse me the bad grammar. :sleepy:
for a long time I was tring to figure out, what the VIC was doing with the WFC and what effect can happen. So I decided to do it strictly from the electrotechnical science side and come to following conclusion for me.
We all read about the not working VIC or similar devices, which are not able to set up a voltage between the plates/tubes that is high enough to split the water molecul as stan described it. Maybe some of you recognized that we all have the same problem, that the voltage on the cell is breaking down to ~2V and some current flows through.
But maybe this was exactly what Stan want....?
Here comes the explanation:
Electrolyses is based on current, the gas output is directly proportional to the current through the cell. But there is a minimum voltage needed to trigger the process: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis#Electrolysis_of_water ..... it is 1,23V
So to be high efficient (maybe 97-99%) the best way to do the electrolysis process is to use the voltage near 1,23V. Then there should be no heat losses (cool to the touch :exclamation:).
In several simulations and real setups I noticed that all circuits of meyer (until the injector) when using the chokes, the voltage at the water tubes always break down to 1,4-1,7V.
The idea is, to use such a circuit, to be high efficient with the electrolyses process! So maybe Stan was knowing this, but was not able to do a patent on efficient electrolyses. So he wrote down more like a fairy story do have a patent on the circuits doing the efficient electrolysis.
What does the ciruit do indeed: The chokes are like a very high resistor if you put high frequency on it. Never mind if they are in resonance or not. The resistance of an 1,1H choke with that high frequency is when compared to the WFC nearly infinite. In this setup the circuit works like a bleeder/voltage divider, this means, only the exact necessary voltage for electrolysis is created on the WFC to keep up the current flowing. It is like in a diode, the foward-bias. So yesterday I did a simulation on two diodes how this can look like. (Attachment).
So the WFC acts like a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyback_diode , the voltage on the secondary side always will break down to the forward bias of the WFC cell creating hydrogen and not heat like in a diode. The gas output depending on the internal resistance of the WFC.
I know there are two different kind of VICs, but I think for the WFC he took the VIC with copper wire (without extra resitance).
By the way, we also tried an alternator without automatic regulation inside. And it worked similar. If the WFC is big enough, the resistance will be very tiny and the (idling) voltage of the alternator will break down to a minimum, like a back EFM is cancelled by a flyback diode.
Whenever Stan did this or not, it is a nice finding, which everyone can replicate and try to get the best efficient electrolysis. :D
Excuse me the bad grammar. :sleepy: