Ideas on Artificial Tornado

Heuristicobfuscation

Ideas on Artificial Tornado
« on August 23rd, 2014, 10:04 AM »
Maybe you guys can help.

I will attempt to list some possible forces related to tornado/vortex that we may need to replicate to be able to succesfully reproduce a Tornado! and hopefully learn from the experiment and apply knowledge.

Were does the Energy come from? Stan would always ask that question.

But first i would like to quote Stan Meyer on the topic.

Stan Meyer Mentioned the following...."Particle Oscillation occurs as an energy generator by way of Electrical stress and whola you got lightning"...
He also mentioned that a in a Tornado you got hot air rising causing spinning vortex that sucks the water moisture and now you have opposite charges oscillating taping into immense amounts of energy...once again using the phrase ."Particle Oscillation  as an energy generator by way of Electrical stress"


ok so here are some reciepies or ideas on what it would take to animate a Tornado! (Based on your comments i may update)

#1 Prime mover...(forced wind to start reaction)
#2 Electrostatic force (Sorce of targeted isolated static field to initiate diff in potential.)
#3 Means of producing "Hot air rising" "cold air sinking". (means of producing water vapor?, artificialy raising temp. etc.)
#4 Enlcosed environment ( small model for ease of testing.)
#5 light source for "photon injection"(not sure of what spectrum...but works well with sunlight.)
#6 Ionized Air..

 

Bellow i will post a video on my attempt at finding a sutable "Prime Mover" for the Artificial Tornado
and obsticle i ran trying to use the motor.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI7_RZl9WKs#



Those are some variable that i think would influence please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks,

Lynx

Re: Ideas on Artificial Tornado
« Reply #1, on August 23rd, 2014, 10:37 AM »
Why on God's green Earth would you like to learn how to create tornados?
Other than the awesome dr. Evil aspect of it all of course ;-)

Heuristicobfuscation

Re: Ideas on Artificial Tornado
« Reply #2, on August 23rd, 2014, 11:36 AM »
Quote from Lynx on August 23rd, 2014, 10:37 AM
Why on God's green Earth would you like to learn how to create tornados?
Other than the awesome dr. Evil aspect of it all of course ;-)
LOL... well it is pretty awesome to be able to reproduce one...but thats not my purpose. (ok maybe just a little ;)

Hurricanes/Tornados have multiple nuclear bombs of equivalent energy.   In Stan Meyer Lectues he  would continualy ask were does the Tornado get its energy?

this got me thinking.  if we can produce a small experimental scaled vortex tornado and feed it with differnt variables, once we get it started can we eliminate the prime mover?  and just feed it with say Static charged water moisture?

what would be the potential energy extraction form that?


there are tons of tornado experiments posted online...see bellow couple examples.. problem is once you eliminate the "prime mover" the vortex disapears. in nature it seems to "feed" of other sources of energy,  the math doesnt add up to "hot air rising" there is way more energy in the Tornado to keep it going.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo0NfbfNovQ#ws


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTQAIE5KVp4#


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvK8D0VNumQ#ws

kenssurplus

Re: Ideas on Artificial Tornado
« Reply #3, on August 23rd, 2014, 01:32 PM »Last edited on August 23rd, 2014, 01:39 PM
Fake tornado gives energy - abc science
Quote
Prototype engine
 
The vortex engine prototype in Utah is a round tower that stands 15 metres tall and 30 metres in diameter.

Fuel spread in a circle on the floor of the tower is burned to generate heat. A series of air inlets around the tower's perimeter feed hot, humid air into the interior at an angle that promotes the whirling motion of a tornado.
 
In initial tests, Michaud and Fletcher produced vortices more than a metre across.
entrepreneur receives funding for tornado power - PHYS.ORG

Years ago, I saw this protoype shown on a TV news cast, as well as the solar tower built in Spain.  I thought that if you were to utilize a very deep abandoned mine shaft for half of the tower, that you could make use of the temperature difference of the deep earth, to high tower top atmosphere temp. Should work all seasons as well as day / night.

One variation I thought of was to use a U tube ran down the mine shaft with one end open at the surface.  Spray fine water drops into this opening and as the water mist falls, it pushes the cooled dense air (by evaporation) down the U tube.  At the bottom of the mine, in the U tube, the moist earth temperature air would then rise to the surface through the other side of the U tube and continue on up into the solar tower portion.  The solar tower portion would then provide heat to the rising moist air maintaining suction and flow.   This scheme would have double the mine depth distance, plus the tower height for the travel length of the vortex.   I had gone as far as to source several 2000- 3000 foot deep abandoned mines, but alas no funding whatsoever to do anything more.

Heuristicobfuscation

Re: Ideas on Artificial Tornado
« Reply #4, on August 24th, 2014, 09:39 AM »
Quote from kenssurplus on August 23rd, 2014, 01:32 PM
Fake tornado gives energy - abc science

entrepreneur receives funding for tornado power - PHYS.ORG

Years ago, I saw this protoype shown on a TV news cast, as well as the solar tower built in Spain.  I thought that if you were to utilize a very deep abandoned mine shaft for half of the tower, that you could make use of the temperature difference of the deep earth, to high tower top atmosphere temp. Should work all seasons as well as day / night.

One variation I thought of was to use a U tube ran down the mine shaft with one end open at the surface.  Spray fine water drops into this opening and as the water mist falls, it pushes the cooled dense air (by evaporation) down the U tube.  At the bottom of the mine, in the U tube, the moist earth temperature air would then rise to the surface through the other side of the U tube and continue on up into the solar tower portion.  The solar tower portion would then provide heat to the rising moist air maintaining suction and flow.   This scheme would have double the mine depth distance, plus the tower height for the travel length of the vortex.   I had gone as far as to source several 2000- 3000 foot deep abandoned mines, but alas no funding whatsoever to do anything more.
Quote from kenssurplus on August 23rd, 2014, 01:32 PM
Fake tornado gives energy - abc science

entrepreneur receives funding for tornado power - PHYS.ORG

Years ago, I saw this protoype shown on a TV news cast, as well as the solar tower built in Spain.  I thought that if you were to utilize a very deep abandoned mine shaft for half of the tower, that you could make use of the temperature difference of the deep earth, to high tower top atmosphere temp. Should work all seasons as well as day / night.

One variation I thought of was to use a U tube ran down the mine shaft with one end open at the surface.  Spray fine water drops into this opening and as the water mist falls, it pushes the cooled dense air (by evaporation) down the U tube.  At the bottom of the mine, in the U tube, the moist earth temperature air would then rise to the surface through the other side of the U tube and continue on up into the solar tower portion.  The solar tower portion would then provide heat to the rising moist air maintaining suction and flow.   This scheme would have double the mine depth distance, plus the tower height for the travel length of the vortex.   I had gone as far as to source several 2000- 3000 foot deep abandoned mines, but alas no funding whatsoever to do anything more.
Thanks for sharing Thats interesting, using a mine shaft to provide differnece in temp and capitalizing on  that with u tube evaporation. Neat!