LENR "Jitterbug" experament. Feed Back Please!


LENR "Jitterbug" experament. Feed Back Please!
« on August 11th, 2014, 07:58 AM »Last edited on August 11th, 2014, 08:04 AM
Watch this video First!!

Then read this paper: http://vixra.org/pdf/1209.0007v1.pdf

Then post your thoughts.

thanks, ~Russ
Re: LENR "Jitterbug" experament. Feed Back Please!
« Reply #1, on August 11th, 2014, 09:38 AM »Last edited on August 11th, 2014, 10:36 AM by Lynx
This is a theory that directly relates to the theory that is being worked on here at QGR.
So we want to know if this prediction is true or not.  We are not interested in LENR directly. We are interested if this prediction is correct...

So keep that in mind



Re: LENR "Jitterbug" experament. Feed Back Please!
« Reply #2, on August 11th, 2014, 10:42 AM »
So is there an actual experiment you'd like us to perform Russ?
I can't see any such directions in the PDF that which outlines how to go about performing a Jitterbug experiment, or maybe I'm just reading it without understanding what it's all about, wouldn't be the first :-P


Re: LENR "Jitterbug" experament. Feed Back Please!
« Reply #3, on August 11th, 2014, 02:06 PM »Last edited on August 11th, 2014, 02:11 PM
I know the answer. cold fusion is a Tesla work also. it is the ion wind all over again i have proved that. this is the reason i think we should call it cold    fusion. reason its a cooling effect on the electrical conductor itself. there fore you must set it up on the negative ion generator. learn how to make your ion wind generator coils first. then i will show u how to take it up to the next level.,  then you should try it with the positive ion generator lower amps, but possibly up to 25 amp.  i think it should be tried with 50 kv, and up. or even a surging, and falling off of voltages.cheers.. :P :P

i say cold fusion is a Tesla work. it is still related to the ion wind devise he made. he used in upward of millions of volts..

cold fusion one way. 25 amp 250 volt. and upwards of 400 volts.

but with a cooling effect like Tesla u must use the diagram for ion wind. peace. O:-)
this  post is before i read the paper you wish you had predicted. :P
Re: LENR "Jitterbug" experament. Feed Back Please!
« Reply #4, on August 11th, 2014, 02:17 PM »
Russ test experiment. epg spark gap, water tight, and air tight.
vacume apply. small amounts of hydrogen helium. water. energy to the spark gap as normal need apply voltages for continual discharges,

do u got that Russ?



Re: LENR "Jitterbug" experament. Feed Back Please!
« Reply #5, on August 11th, 2014, 11:53 PM »Last edited on August 14th, 2014, 01:01 AM
  First Glance it seams to be a valid material for hydrogen storage seemingly  as they mention nickel structure as the reference.
   The Structure leans its self to sphere Beads Reactions or bead reactors
    The Surround temp may influence the absorption rate just like nickel metal hydride acts when in a water bath
     and your loading it up with H.

    so as a double boiler works a double cooler may work same to control such reaction.

    there is a well know guy in socal who leads bead reactions and coated bead reactions and bead reactors.
   and has patents   will put name here if I remember it.yes that it correct name  James A.Patterson Cell. as Michael posted below


Re: LENR "Jitterbug" experament. Feed Back Please!
« Reply #6, on August 13th, 2014, 01:45 AM »
Hi Russ, Thanks for posting! I can say I loved the paper but can't wait to see the Mathematica QGR Progress with this. I have seen different means of doing this including sonics as a prime mover. While the pdf outlines structure transitional dynamics well, here is a video of something else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6d2q-YxVvk#ws


Re: LENR "Jitterbug" experament. Feed Back Please!
« Reply #7, on August 13th, 2014, 02:17 PM »
thanks for all your feed back,


check out the site for some more stuff:


some publications there to look at.



Re: LENR "Jitterbug" experament. Feed Back Please!
« Reply #8, on August 13th, 2014, 05:50 PM »
           After reading the research paper, much of what is said is based on complex geometric structures, that I am not certain can be made at the research level that you are working at or have equipment available. Much of what "Tony" says is or has been done by the late James Patterson's with the Patterson Cell. The key to getting the desired reaction to produce a avalanche of lasting heat is in making the highly compacted hydrogen atoms in the Paladium Lattice rub ( bounce if you prefer) against each other and thus produce phenomenal amounts of heat as the byproduct of the physical action of the atoms oscillating against each other. How many hydrogen atoms can be stored in a Paladium lattice is up for conjecture as well as how many are needed to create the reaction and susatin it as well.. Another source of information is Dr. Edmund Storms Book " The Science of Low Energy Nuclear Reactions" and also a book by Akira Isihara "Condensed Matter Physics". Both of these books are highly technical and a thorough understanding of mathematics ( read: Calculus at the very least), particle and molecular physics would not hurt. If you guys have a physicist on staff he may have already read these books and if not he should. Good Luck Russ.