Tommey Reed demonstrates HHO doing its thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36s5HEyiIsA#ws

And for those of you who still think HHO always implodes?  Well stand in front of that gizmo Tommey is wielding.  I dare you.


Man, I wish I had a bigger yard...

:rofl:

Clips like this should interest the engineers or war machines :-D

Good times, thanks for sharing :thumbsup:

That's better than a potato launcher, backyard balistics I would say. :rofl2:

This is the HHO water Cannon Effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56VMhB_sGzA#ws

Water cannon effect hitting my son.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep8oDn5u_Zw#ws

HHO water wheel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acu8kvxGExQ#ws


Tom

Thanks for sharing Tommey, good to see and hear both you and your son :thumbsup:
It's always interesting to see alternative ways of how to get HHO to rotate a shaft other than by feeding it to an internal combustion engine, it sure seems to be a far more safe way of exploding the gas the way you do in these clips.

I also think designing this HHO rifle.

Great minds think alike Tommey.  hehe

I was looking at my Benjamin Nitro Piston rifle and wondering the same thing...   Could this thing be powered by HHO?

I bet so.

I will do a HHO Rifle Build, I bet ATF can't stop anyone making a weapon, the only thing they can do is control us with their gun laws.



Who need to buy a gun, when we the people can make any weapon if we need to.

Opinion please.

Tom

Tom, if this turns into a Clive Bundy deal, please do give me a heads up before you make it public so I can get a gang together to help you defend your life and property.

I don't think it's all that much a matter of high pressure as it is high velocity.
With your setup the "shooting" piston would "only" get a stroke the length of the HHO powered driving piston and I don't think it would shoot the pellet any major distances, unless you were to clamp the pellet from the start and then release it at the end of the stroke, that way you'd use the compressed air to the max.
What if you instead were to let the driving and the shooting piston have the same diameter and at the end of the shooting barrel narrow the diameter down to the pellet diameter, that way you'd force the relatively large volume of air pushed by the shooting piston to escape through a fairly narrow outlet barrel, which then would pick up a fairly high velocity and that way propel the pellet at a greater velocity compared to the original design velocity?

I'm not certain, but what I think Tom has discovered is to not build pressure.  Let the HHO hammer at extreme high speed with little resistance as possible.  Kind of like those carnival games where you hit the base with the hammer and ball shoots up and rings the bell.  I think that is what he is getting at, or at least that's the way I'm understanding it.

He has said multiple times if you provide resistance to the ignited HHO instead of rapidly expanding, it instead implodes.  I saw this first hand with my genset conversion trying to run my 305cc motor on pure HHO.  Simply doesn't work worth crap.  Probably why a turbine type engine would work much better--harness the speed, not the pressure.

Tesla's fascination with impulses makes me think the answer is right there under our nose; all we have to do is look again from a different perspective.


@Tommey,

I was thinking about your setup and it occurred to me the air space.  Leave that as a vacuum and just add a locking mechanism to hold that vacuum in place while you fill the other side of the chamber with HHO.  When you fire, release the lock at the same time.  This will minimize any resistance on the HHO blast.  And to minimize even more, make the mass of the moving objects as light as possible.  Do that and I'll bet you could shoot through trees with this bugger.  Imagine 5000 ft/s with an HHO rifle.  Not too shabby.  Probably need sabot pellets to keep them from coming apart.

I just wish that I wasn't so GD lazy, otherwise I'd love to experiment on some of this myself.
At the end of the day though, the goal is to have some form of engine/machine/motor to be powered by HHO or whatever water based fuel there may be coming out from the process, one that which isn't quite as dangerous as an ICE would be when it's powered by such a (water based) fuel.
IDK, maybe moving water as a substitute for pistons etc could actually prove to be extremely safe with regards to building such a water based fuelled machine that which powers for instance a rotating axis, all of course for the sake of further powering your favourite vehicle/alternator/application of choice......?

Hi Lynx,

Matt is correct, if any back pressure even as low as a few psi you will start to create a implosion effect.

The water cannon is a great example, how it is free to move with no back pressure.

My goal is to build a 10,000f/s BB rifle. This could be call the "Drone Killer".

I would need to test the piston action, but it's clearly a system that could generate a lot of energy to move a BB.
This video were I shot the plastic PVC about 200 feet, look were the PVC was loaded at the end of the tube.
It takes a lot of energy to force 6" of force to shoot the tube 200 feet in mid air.

I believe this basic formula we all know to well sums it up:
E=MC^2
Mass= water or object
C= speed of light, but we only have the speed of HHO explosion around 10,000mph or 4400m/s

I think this has a lot to do what is going on in the explosion effect.

Tom.

Ok, thanks Tom.

Granted it's great fun, I could easily see myself spend a whole day just target practicing with such an HHO cannon ;-)

But at the same time it would also be equally interesting to get some form of (continuous) motion going, either a spinning axis or some form of pendulum or seesaw/rocker or whatever, just to get a useful mechanical motion out of it which then would be able to power either an alternator or why not even a pair of wheels directly, so that I could replace the engine in my car with it, problem solved.

Looking forward to see your gun in action here :-)

Hi All,

This is a basic firing system for HHO, as the trigger is push the spring release the lock and then triggers the HHO.

I could also just add the firing of HHO could be on the shaft for more efficient timing.

Tom

Quote from TommeyLReed on July 14th, 2014, 03:16 AM

My goal is to build a 10,000f/s BB rifle. This could be call the "Drone Killer".

Hahaha!  I like that.

Your basic design looks pretty good, just add a small cocking mechanism to pull a vacuum on the back side of the piston and you're all set.  With such a setup, then if you want to plink with no HHO and low power, you can.  Just add HHO and you have an awesome piece of hardware.

Good stuff,

Welcome Tommey! nice to see you here:)

~Russ