This post is for all to see where Stanly's mined was. not only was Stanly this grate inverter and researcher, Stanley Meyer was in the correct State of Mind.

Please Watch this short clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=HZM22750v5M


God Speed To Us All And Gog bless us in this time of need. WE THE PEOPLE...

Blessings All!

~Russ Gries

Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on December 2nd, 2011, 01:28 AM

This post is for all to see where Stanly's mined was. not only was Stanly this grate inverter and researcher, Stanley Meyer was in the correct State of Mind.

God Speed To Us All And Gog bless us in this time of need. WE THE PEOPLE...

Blessings All!

~Russ Gries

Hey Thanks Russ. What a great speech, he defiantly was in the the right state of mind when it came to bringing forth this technology.

It actually reminded me of this video. Its a short clip. I highly recommend this for all to watch and share

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsLY4Acf5_8&feature=channel_video_title

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Unfortunately the "powers that be" are very efficient at eliminating one person that keeps knowledge to them self.  I believe open source is the only way to get this to work.  I understand why a standardized cell is important, but having open source experimenters giving their ER10 test  data away free to further products that are not open source is a one way street.  I don't believe your company will be "single handedly" bringing this technology into existence.  It is great if you can sell component parts for a WFC system, but its not on all of us to create a Company just to make the WFC technology real.
   With open source things can move much faster when everyone pitches in and gives what they can.  Not everyone can shell out big dollars to help, but they have helped with their skills, creativity and handiwork.   The return in helping is often worth more than what you invested.:)  

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Unfortunately the "powers that be" are very efficient at eliminating one person that keeps knowledge to them self.  I believe open source is the only way to get this to work.  I understand why a standardized cell is important, but having open source experimenters giving their ER10 test  data away free to further products that are not open source is a one way street.  I don't believe your company will be "single handedly" bringing this technology into existence.  It is great if you can sell component parts for a WFC system, but its not on all of us to create a Company just to make the WFC technology real.
   With open source things can move much faster when everyone pitches in and gives what they can.  Not everyone can shell out big dollars to help, but they have helped with their skills, creativity and handiwork.   The return in helping is often worth more than what you invested.:)

H20, Nate, All

i have seen Stan talk about the path your taking H20 and i believe its got to be open source. Nate said what i would have sead but better than i would have sead but i do want to share something with you from a man named Eric

Quote from Eric C A friend on mine,

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The WFC will bring a new era of energy production to humanity.  By sharing this information with the world we open up a new market for engineers, manufacturers, distributors and consumers.  The concepts to build these units have already been released.  The next step is to share this information and help the public understand how each part of the unit works and make it accessible and understandable for everyone.  Most people think that there is no money in this process but there absolutely is.  Imagine the jobs we would create by mass manufacturer these units.  We would need people to machine the parts, assemble the units, do quality analysis, and the list goes on.  A typical unit installed in a car would cost hundreds even a few thousand dollars in labor and parts but would save the owner of that car thousands of dollars in gasoline costs.  People need to stop worrying about the money aspect of this technology and start worry about the development of it.  When we get working units that can be custom fitted for cars, trucks, furnaces, electric generation and almost every other method of energy production that we have today we can free people of the thousands of dollars we waste in utility bills.  It is time to start taking this technology serious so please share this information with your friends, family and co-workers.  Take the time and learn the process and you will see that it works and needs refined by researching and developing this technology on a mass scale.

basically there is money to be made, there is ways to have a company.

but please see what happens in the past. the one man that knows the secrete will be stooped and it will go with them to there grave.  know one wants that.

This form is for all who are working in an open source format, any one here is willing to give some to receive some. You can sell your product and give the data/plans away for free. It’s the people that who can build these things for them self’s that will keep this technology alive, and the people that can not build this for them self’s are the ones that will keep you funded. IT WILL WORK THAT WAY!

Any way, for everyone that reads this OPEN SOURCE IS THE ONLY WAY THIS TECH WILL EVER GET TO THE PUBLIC.  and its the only way we are going to take back out freedom.

God Bless!

~Russ

H20power,
We all have been so glad you have been here, you have helped others and have been a good inspiration to others.
If you’re willing to work openly minded with others and share what you’ve learned help others where you can, Free Thinking and sharing data with no hard feelings with no “Me ME ME” type of attitude, with No Ego, with an open mind to others ideas, with over all welcoming support to working as a team and as a family of people coming together for one purpose, that is to take back what is ours, our energy source and our freedom, out life!
Then you’re in the right place.
That is the hart or open source.

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Insted of the person saying, "Hey someone that had hands on that transformer gave me this information and I think you might have gotten your guess wrong, take a look," and posting the information for me to learn from. But insted I got that type of a message saying I missinform people and illudes to me having been doing so for some time.
 The word missinform: give false or misleading information to
mislead; be deliberately ambiguous or unclear in order to mislead or withhold information; tell an untruth; pretend with intent to deceive; "Don't lie to your parents"; "She lied when she told me she was only 29"

im glad you brought this up, I think this is why we all can’t work together as a team, this is a “Me Me Me” type of attitude. Sadly that’s not how working as a team works. Its “ US US US! “ now that’s the type of attitude I want to be around.

I don’t care who gets what working and i just want to make a deference in this world and its important to give nonage for the more mind’s the better.  

Sadly there will be others that will talk you down and make you sound like a lire but for me I don’t worried about that as I know who I am and I know what im all about, and I will prove that by doing what I do best and keep pushing forward in what ever I can and over time the truth will come out. (they cant deny the truth when others see it is true. )
With life comes nay sayer’s. for me those people are 100% ignored and I look right past them as that nothing ever happened. And over time they will see that you don’t care that they go on a tangent cursing and such as that solves nothing. If you ignore it (and you are a true and legit person) it will go away on its own. That’s just something I found out in my life struggles. Don’t give them what they want “a fight” give them love and see what happens…

Well I have spent to much time rambling on and I just want to say everyone has my support, I wish everyone  the best for it’s the people that are going to get this going, we are nothing without each other, we are just all 1%.  We need to be a full 99%


PS. We have everything we need to standardize this. As far as the ER10 and the ER12, I love them! As far as standardizing, We have Stan’s Cell Dimensions and Coil Measurements, Electronics, and now new video if the complete GMS unit functionality, an dmuch more its just a matter of time and everyone working as a hole.   Global Understanding of this technology is our best bet against the 1% in control.

My Love To You All!
God Bless
~Russ

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Then rebut the presumption that you misinform people. Like for example:

Am I being misinforming or the information is misleading or incorrect? Please correct me if I am wrong.

If I'm not corrected in a timely manner, then my so-called misinforming statements stand as truth.

H2Opower,

I think we are slightly off of what we are trying to say to each other. The "me me me" was directed to all people in general.

None the less I'm glad your here, I want you to be here and I try verry hard to never talk any one down.

Not that hole post was directed to you, I was generalizing all people even tho I kinda started with directing it to you.

Hope we have no hard feelings and hope we an try to understand each other more clearly. I'm not so good at typing so my text is kinda bits of the hole that I'm trying to spit out! :) hents the videos... :)

Thanks for everything you have helped everyone try to understand wether they lesion or not you tryed.

Also I think I took your other post about the photo the wrong way.
I'm sad to hear that people just call out that it's a lie than telling/helping you in the corect way. That's sad to here as those type of people are not helping at all.

Ok, so let's continue on this adventure with everyone's help we can get! Including yours H2opower!

God bless us all!

Sorry for the miss comunacations on my part
~Russ  

Russ, good find. Repeating what Stans mind set was when he built this energy plate form was that an average mechanically inclined person could repeat the technology and use it. keep in mind what Stan had available for technology at that time.

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I'm thinking this is all getting off topic for this thread?  I'm not sure how my reply talking about the importance of open source, turned into a 2000 word essay about misinformation?  

Nate

not to take anything away from h20 who is hard working and extremely dedicated but there are others in the market place will a desire similiar to those who want to create a business from S meyers - see http://www.stanleymeyerwebshop.com/shop/frontpage.html - if you know this source then please let us know - seems everyone wants to hop on the Meyers train if you have the ticket price

Quote from peteroks on December 5th, 2011, 09:48 PM

not to take anything away from h20 who is hard working and extremely dedicated but there are others in the market place will a desire similiar to those who want to create a business from S meyers - see http://www.stanleymeyerwebshop.com/shop/frontpage.html - if you know this source then please let us know - seems everyone wants to hop on the Meyers train if you have the ticket price

some people named Max (inrondmax) and Per are apart of that group.

I have not seen full proof that there system works like Stan's did but I will say that irondmax and others have done some fine work on this and i wish all them the best! If they got it! Then more power to them! Sadly if they get stopped then we are in the same place we were 15 years ago when stan made the same mistake to keep his secrets with him.

RIP. Stanley Allen Meyer.

but! this site is for open source research. so if any one is not open source then there in the wrong place.

i have nothing ageist any one that would like to make and sell Stan’s work. but what i will say is that's not to be done here on these forms.  

these forms are for any one that is willing to share any of there work (weather there selling it or not) as long as there not selling it here with out the full plans and data.

i respect that people want to support there family and research by selling there work. i fully understand that and i agree we got to put food on out family's plates and clothes on there back. BUT!

that's not for this site/forums.

now, if you are giving full data and plans for any one to build the product you are selling on this site for free as well as promoting your products. that is OK. as i understand that people are not going to be able to build some of this stuff them self's and its a good way to bring in research money or put food on your family's plate. i even will be doing this one day but the full data will be on this site and any one that would like to build it them self's will be able to do so.

so to sum it up...

1. there will be no selling/promoting products that are not open source projects.
2. if your not willing to open source then just done post about it.

i want all the help we can get here but i also need to make sure we all are on the same page on what RWGresearch.com and Open-Source-Research.org are all about.

Freedom. and that includes the freedom to freely share work and research to other researchers for FREE.

OK, that's the updated Site Rules. I will send an email to all who is on this site as well as update the "Rules of the site"

may god bless us all and good luck every one! we are a team! let’s be one!

~Russ Gries

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Quote from ~Russ/Rwg42985 on December 6th, 2011, 01:53 AM

Quote from peteroks on December 5th, 2011, 09:48 PM

not to take anything away from h20 who is hard working and extremely dedicated but there are others in the market place will a desire similar to those who want to create a business from S Meyers - see http://www.stanleymeyerwebshop.com/shop/frontpage.html - if you know this source then please let us know - seems everyone wants to hop on the Meyers train if you have the ticket price

some people named Max (inrondmax) and Per are apart of that group.

I have not seen full proof that there system works like Stan's did but I will say that irondmax and others have done some fine work on this and i wish all them the best! If they got it! Then more power to them! Sadly if they get stopped then we are in the same place we were 15 years ago when Stan made the same mistake to keep his secrets with him.

RIP. Stanley Allen Meyer.

but! this site is for open source research. so if any one is not open source then there in the wrong place.

i have nothing ageist any one that would like to make and sell Stan’s work. but what i will say is that's not to be done here on these forms.  

these forms are for any one that is willing to share any of there work (weather there selling it or not) as long as there not selling it here with out the full plans and data.

i respect that people want to support there family and research by selling there work. i fully understand that and i agree we got to put food on out family's plates and clothes on there back. BUT!

that's not for this site/forums.

now, if you are giving full data and plans for any one to build the product you are selling on this site for free as well as promoting your products. that is OK. as i understand that people are not going to be able to build some of this stuff them self's and its a good way to bring in research money or put food on your family's plate. i even will be doing this one day but the full data will be on this site and any one that would like to build it them self's will be able to do so.

so to sum it up...

1. there will be no selling/promoting products that are not open source projects.
2. if your not willing to open source then just done post about it.

i want all the help we can get here but i also need to make sure we all are on the same page on what RWGresearch.com and Open-Source-Research.org are all about.

Freedom. and that includes the freedom to freely share work and research to other researchers for FREE.

OK, that's the updated Site Rules. I will send an email to all who is on this site as well as update the "Rules of the site"

may god bless us all and good luck every one! we are a team! let’s be one!

~Russ Gries

I don't see how an open source group that is dedicated to bringing out Stan's technology, is considered "resistance".  It's every person's personal choice to buy what ever and who's ever products they need for WFC experiments.  No one is resisting the technology because they don't by a $1000 ER10.  Our minds aren't free because we would rather build open source products rather than buy from TGS?  Honestly I hope your company and everyone else's does do well.  But like Jeff said its too early to think about the people that can't build these things for their own cars.  First we need to see a car run on one!  Once that happens I'm sure many of us will quit our current jobs in a second to change careers.:P
I can guarantee there will be open source versions of all of Stan's equipment.  3d printing technology will knock down the walls of technology suppression.:cool:

Nate

Ok thanks you russ and firepinto - for responding to my 3rd post on this site and it is these responses to a hot topic that needed clearing up - if if indeed it has been resolved - russ made the point - basicly open source your efforts here on this site and sell on another site NOT HERE  its not needed or right to do so--- this site is for giving freely to GAIN freedom not generate your  site for sales revenue -AT  present our freedom limited by the need to  live under economic preasure -[sell your stuff but not here] and trying to develop a water fuel system [ do that here] ------ but as firepinto said  why sell differant components to as system that only S.Meyers could intergrate into A WORKING MACHINE and no one here can as yet do- so do fool yourselves Meyers did it no one else has yet done it-but if you do I will be willing to pay the price for that ticket-p