A little help with this one.

I cant seem to wrap my head around this.
we have seen this video multiple times the one bellow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imuCBv2AZ-8#


This is my question.

#1 clearly one can see a Electric motor on the driver side running a alternator. But on the passenger side it also looks like an electric motor. Just cant see the alternator. Is there an alternator? What is that?

If there is another alternator on that video. Then Steve Meyers patent may be closer than what most of us have been thinking. in Steve Meyers patent [attached bellow] one can clearly see two 3 phase alternators or generator in sync.

Steve Meyers Patent calles for a hydroxy filling station? dont think that makes much sense. Maybe we should pay more attention to the steve meyer pattent. If in deed he is cautius for his life due to the circumstanses surounding his brothers untimly death then maybe this is his way for him to disclossing the technology?

#2 Has there been any attempt at replicating the Steve Meyer circuit?

I see them now.  Never noticed them before.


Maybe Stan or Steve had the QMoGen figured out a long time ago.

Quote from Matt Watts on March 18th, 2014, 07:00 PM

I see them now.  Never noticed them before.


Maybe Stan or Steve had the QMoGen figured out a long time ago.

Nice picture.. it shows the motor on right driving the alternator and it shows the motor on left. Just cant tell if the motor on left is driving another alternator or doing something else?

Ok i think i just possible found what that motor is really. this info i found in  another forum somebody said its a redline dc to ac motor.
so i looked it up and here it is pic bellow.

http://www.alternatorstarter.com/redi-line_dc_to_ac_electric_generators.php

maybe Stan's motor is 120 vac then he need invertor(redline).

Interesting, I was looking for a current draw for the Redi-line.  It would be variable, but they don't list any maximums.  There are some diagrams with 75 amp and 100 amp fuses though.  There is also a formula for calculating deep cycle battery run time.  Either the buggy could put out enough extra power to drive and run an AC motor through this device, or there is a good deep cycle battery somewhere.

PDF manual attatched.

Firepinto,

The rotary inverter was powered by two motorcycle batteries, stored directly underneath.
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,2808.msg26038/topicseen.html

Quote from geenee on March 19th, 2014, 12:49 AM

http://www.alternatorstarter.com/redi-line_dc_to_ac_electric_generators.php

maybe Stan's motor is 120 vac then he need invertor(redline).

yes that makes sense. also if we look at the video it shows a panel mounted on the dune buggy with a built in variac and switches. I think it probably feed that electronic panel.

Quote from firepinto on March 19th, 2014, 03:32 AM

Interesting, I was looking for a current draw for the Redi-line.  It would be variable, but they don't list any maximums.  There are some diagrams with 75 amp and 100 amp fuses though.  There is also a formula for calculating deep cycle battery run time.  Either the buggy could put out enough extra power to drive and run an AC motor through this device, or there is a good deep cycle battery somewhere.

PDF manual attatched.

That is a good point.. almost lookes like this was his first real test run after the idle test on his front garage.
Maybe he didnt have enough fuel with his first test to run the buggy. this is evident in the fact that he used a larger
version of the fuel cell in the video. we can see a significantly bigger water fuell cell in the video were he runs the buggy.
granted he still uses the deregulated alternator and motor, this time mounted on the buggy with a portable 120v supply.

Quote from HMS-776 on March 19th, 2014, 04:38 PM

Firepinto,

The rotary inverter was powered by two motorcycle batteries, stored directly underneath.
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,2808.msg26038/topicseen.html

Hmm motor cycle batteries don't have much run time, at least now days.  The PDF does show external battery combinations wired parallel to the vehicle's battery and charging system.  I don't have a log in for ionizationx, so I can't see attachments.

They are three alternators on this buggy, one behind the driver seat, one on the driver side at the bottom of he motor, and the stock one on the motor. Highlighted in blue are the added ones other than the stock.

Quote from gpssonar on March 19th, 2014, 07:47 PM

They are three alternators on this buggy, one behind the driver seat, one on the driver side at the bottom of he motor, and the stock one on the motor. Highlighted in blue are the added ones other than the stock.

Interesting so that takes me back to the possibility that he was using at least two alternators to drive the cell. in a similar way that Steve Meyers presents in his patent?

Firepinto,

Those attachments were screenshots from an unseen video of Stan's laboratory and buggy from 1989.
One of them shows an up close view of the rotary inverter, and directly under the bracket it is on you can
clearly see 2 red batteries and their connections. They may not specifically be motorcycle batteries but they
 are about that size.

That system was the only one I know of with documented evidence that it actually powered the buggy to highway speeds.
However, as you have noticed it required extra batteries. And there is no telling how long those batteries lasted.

Quote from Heuristicobfuscation on March 18th, 2014, 06:23 PM

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#2 Has there been any attempt at replicating the Steve Meyer circuit?

yes, I replicated the circuit in a 1 phase setup instead of 3 phase using a solid state power amplifier instead of an alternator.

Quote from Heuristicobfuscation on March 19th, 2014, 08:26 PM

Interesting so that takes me back to the possibility that he was using at least two alternators to drive the cell. in a similar way that Steve Meyers presents in his patent?

Steven Meyer´s 2 alternators are phase synchronized so that he gets a 6 phase output instead of 3.

Interesting information!!!

Rediline invertor that show Stan need 2000W-3000W to make a HHO gas.but can run a car with 53 horsepower engine(39 kW).

Quote from bussi04 on March 20th, 2014, 12:26 AM

yes, I replicated the circuit in a 1 phase setup instead of 3 phase using a solid state power amplifier instead of an alternator.

Nice! any interesting results?

Quote from bussi04 on March 20th, 2014, 01:14 AM

Steven Meyer´s 2 alternators are phase synchronized so that he gets a 6 phase output instead of 3.

Thats interesting. But i dont think thats whats happening and if im wrong please correct me. My understanding of phase syncronization is that when one coil is energized in the first  alternator the other alternator or generator coil is simultaniusly energized and producing current. if they are both producing current and voltage at the same wave angle then they are syncronized.  this is how the power companys can couple different power plants to the grid. as long as they phase syncronize the generator say at 60hz then there wont be any damages to the generator and more power will be added to the existing grid.

So even dou there are six phases present mechanicaly with the two generators, electrically
they are only 3 phase.

the two generators are "Timed" to produce the same amount of wave angle. The wave energy increases not doubles in time when in sync.
Same as connecting batterys in parallel. We increase the energy not the polarity.

If we were to try and produce say 6 phase we would have to mechanicly couple the two alternators [if thats possible] so that they are mechanicaly 60 degrees out of phase at all times. This will allow each coil to produce a wave with minimum interference with neiboring energized field.

Thanks,
let me know your toughts.

Connect -

Agni Lynch Motor to a Turbo with out compressor side so it runs off shaft now blank shaft.
Use model turbos or bike trubo you may need to tep down speed via pulley as 4000 -6000 rpm is max for those generators

We don't need insane power for meyers systems

but this would sure help the brute force guys who can't read patents

Read about Meyers  Charging a wet cell to be a voltage reservoir for
spliting water  Charging in a step fashion from the pwm 9xa etc to the vic (transformers ) via a switch to cell water capacitor.

means low amps high volts

If you make this system

KEEP IN MIND YOU WANT

THE CONSISTENT VOLTAGE CHARGE and CHOKES in the Circuit

We are all working toward build it.

Dan