Distilled Water?

Edward Mitchell

Re: Distilled Water?
« Reply #25, on March 11th, 2014, 11:02 PM »Last edited on March 11th, 2014, 11:14 PM
Quote from haiqu on March 11th, 2014, 08:50 PM
I find the comments above somewhat incongruous. I have no idea where this rant is coming from, but in this case it was aimed at the wrong party.

I simply supplied some missing information. Distilled water used to be a commonly available item, it is no longer easily found. I don't need to have years of experience building HHO cells to know that.

In general I agree with your sentiments though, and have made similar comments on this forum in the past few days.

Evidence: http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=1295.0

There are too many people building stuff in their heads and not doing any actual research. I'm not one of those.

haiQu <--- note spelling
Sorry about the spelling error but you are right as we need more people building, experimenting, and asking & answering questions now more than ever. The time for pure theory has long since pasted, if it ever existed at all, and that is a very flawed way at trying to learn something new as the best way is to make use of the scientific method even if just followed loosely. The thing people don't like about it is it requires you to build and test something and then it also requires you to ask and then answer your own questions. People love asking questions but hate trying to answer them on there own.

On the use of different sources of water you have to make the best with what you have. I just wanted you to know that if the resistance is missing in the form of water due to contaminates then it must be made up in the transformer someplace. Meyer talks about using resistance wire for the secondary and for the chokes. So I think it is safe to assume that he knew what he was talking about since now we understand the role water plays in the VIC.

Here is some more useful information. Since we have a hard time trying to figure out just what is the resistance of water let us take a different approach looking at what water's resistance we find that it is directly tied to distance. The resistance in the exciter array of water is directly tied to the spacing between the resonant cavities, correct? Since we know this to be true then we just say distance times water = the total resistance and in looking at it that way we can take out the water and just use the sum of the distances of the series array. Meyer had intended on using 0.095" x 11  = 1.045" of water resistance with his resonate cavity design. The reason I use the word intended is through a small error he had to take one of the 11 resonate cavities off of the array for in the designing process he didn't calculate the distance between each of the resonate cavities adjacent to one another. And it so turns out that the distance between two adjacent resonant cavities was less than the sum difference of the entire array. Following what we know about current and how it travels we can see that the current took the path of least resistance which in this case was to go from the positive connection right over the top of the resonant cavity to the adjacent resonant cavity where the negative connection was made. This would have effectively bypassed the entire array which is why Meyer had to remove one of the resonant cavities. But all of his calculations was for the use of 11 resonant cavities so this would have placed a greater load on the series transformer array than was planned for is my thinking. The thread is very useful as it lets us think of questions like these and then we must redesign the errors Meyer had in his system out of our systems and proceed with the testing.

As we have to also consider this, the rate of which the voltage breaks down the water as this goes towards getting the injectors working just right. Remember Meyer pushed the water through the injectors with 125 psi of pressure. So then the calculations must have shifted towards getting the right voltage to the injectors for the rates the water would be required to flow through the injectors to keep the engine running in real time. As you can see much work remains but with each and every test we draw one step closer towards getting it right. Keep asking questions as that is part of the scientific method but never forget you have to see if your experiments answered your questions and if not why not and if so why so? It's hard work but it's our best and only shot at solving this technology for with just the science we are left with trying to build it correctly.

We can do this :cool:,
Edward

Gunther Rattay

Re: Distilled Water?
« Reply #26, on March 13th, 2014, 05:04 AM »Last edited on March 13th, 2014, 05:33 AM
Quote from haiqu on March 11th, 2014, 08:50 PM
I find the comments above somewhat incongruous. I have no idea where this rant is coming from, but in this case it was aimed at the wrong party.
sometimes negotiating obstacles is a little bit frustrating and then we hope to get some support from the community as there were workload sharing or some funding in any way.

nevertheless inward motivation is stronger than this requirement for workload sharing and bystander effect won´t knock us down :cool:.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ka6e6MC33Y8#t=5788

Thank you Foster Gamble! (1:37:00 h)