Electrolysis turns water into hydrogen & oxygen, as the gases rises to the surface they're captured in the 'buckets' which in turn drives the belt and on one of the belt pulley axis there's an alternator producing electric power.
The gases are in turn used elsewhere.
I really like the simple concept here, to first use the buoyancy of the gases to drive the 'belt alternator', then use them to generate more energy, be it heat, electricity or mechanical.

Doesn't take much to imagine closing the loop on this one.

http://www.google.com/patents/US4084375

nice.

that's to funny, when i first started my "perpetual motion" research... hehe

i was thinking about doing the same with compressed air of some type.. but hey! there yo go!

lol

good stuff!

~Russ

More food for thought:

Imagine a wheel with an alternator attached on it's center axis.
Surrounding the wheel is a set of permanent magnets, equally spaced around the wheel, all having their south poles pointing inwards towards the wheel.
At the rim of the wheel there's an equal amount of electromagnets, which are all powered by the alternator through a set of solid state switches, which are fired according to a specific scheme.



As the wheel turns and the electromagnets are about 10 degrees ahead of the permanentmagnets all the electromagnets are energized to make south poles on top, which creates a repelling force between the 2.



When the electromagnets are 1/2 way between the permanent magnets the polarity of the electromagnets are switched, making north poles on top, which creates an attractive force between the 2.



As the electromagnets closes in on the perm.magnets they're all de-energized at about 10 degrees before they meet.



Then they stay de-energized until they're about 10 degrees ahead of eachother again and the cycle is repeated over and over.

Question:
Would the wheel want to turn itself around according to the alternating attracting/repelling (electro)magnetic forces, making it accellerate......beyond control....?

Feel free to enlighten me as to why this never would work IRL.

Quote from Lynx on February 25th, 2014, 08:49 AM

Question:
Would the wheel want to turn itself around according to the alternating attracting/repelling (electro)magnetic forces, making it accellerate......beyond control....?

Seems like it would become a typical motor and would increase in speed up to the point of your switching capability, which if you used air core electromagnets, could be pretty fast.

Now obviously the generator located in the center would do everything it could to stop the rotor from spinning.  A simple replacement of the generator with a battery would show what the motor part is capable of.

Quote from Matt Watts on February 25th, 2014, 09:16 AM

Seems like it would become a typical motor and would increase in speed up to the point of your switching capability, which if you used air core electromagnets, could be pretty fast.

Well that's one way of putting it I guess.
As there's no outer energy feeding the system it would then feed itself, turning it into a......dare I say it.......perpetuum mobile.....?

Quote from Lynx on February 25th, 2014, 09:22 AM

Well that's one way of putting it I guess.
As there's no outer energy feeding the system it would then feed itself, turning it into a......dare I say it.......perpetuum mobile.....?

Could be.  I would think some asymmetry be necessary though.  Where that comes from...?  I can't see it, but if it's there, it would work.

look up "Gap Power"

build a small one my self. there using eletrical to "neutralize" the magnet field.

from the looks of it its the same as what you have stated...

gap power uses coils to "shield" the magnets. then uses the high voltage back spike to charge the system,.

http://www.gap-power.com/

i tested it. small scale of coarse.

second one down:

http://www.gap-power.com/replications-by-others.html

more testing needed...

~Russ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUAsPPW_vZU#

your drawings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxrJoGZy1to#ws

Thanks for the replies.

I just want to emphasize that the only source of electric energy feeding the electromagnets would be the alternator alone, no outer source of energy would be used, that's the very idea here.

I know that it most probably likely wouldn't work in real life the way I described it, where by giving the wheel a spin from start (by hand) having the alternator feeding the electromagnets in the sequence I described, which by creating the alternating electromagnetic fields which in part are attracted to the permanent magnets and in part are repelled by the same accelerates the wheel even further, which in turn then makes the alternator spin even faster, giving more electric energy to the electromagnets in the same sequence over and over........ad infinitum........only to end up having some pesky law of nature putting a halt to the wheel once it's started.

I just like the idea of the original post, where you in part use the bubbles to perform a lifting momentum on the band and then burn (or put the hydrogen through a fuel cell generating electric energy directly) the gases to create more electric energy to feed the process even further, all in a closed loop of course.

Food for thought Gentlemen, food for thought ;-)

Some more food for thought

Free Energy Principles
https://www.dropbox.com/s/msza1mkalq06uw0/fe_principles.pdf

(When I was making this compilation I didn't know yet about patent in first post)