Tesla Meyer hybrid : unrelated capacitance potentials

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Tesla Meyer hybrid : unrelated capacitance potentials
« on February 8th, 2014, 12:15 PM »
I've been going through a lot of Meyer and Tesla patents lately and been wondering about the fuel cell and the way that it is really working. Incidentally at 15 minutes 26 seconds of the vid below  Meyer does indicate he is indeed restricting current between the secondary of his transformer and the resonant chokes by restricting back EMF with magnetic fields which is interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaB5ME8kFGU
But what does he mean by an isolated pulsing transformer and isolated ground on that blackboard?
In Tesla schematics of the same design Tesla completely isolates one of the capacitor plates by having it connected to ground and we know that Tesla was using ground potential with rods well into the ground maybe 50 feet or more. Stan wasn't doing that so how did he give one of his capacitor plates an isolated ground? Looked at transistors and there is food for thought there but trannies won't stand the large voltages we are talking about and I don't think Stan is using a spark gap either.
I cobbled a schematic of an isolated system where the potential for the positive comes from one isolated supply and the potential for the ground comes from another. I have had to compromise in the schematic with two resisters in the same way Thane Heins does on his BITT design.
When you scribble the workings of the schematic into simple terms it doesn't work because on a conventional cap/battery circuit the cap works by the battery creating a potential on one plate and the then it creates the opposite potential on the other plate with a conductive path through the battery. In Meyer/Tesla designs there is no conductive path through a common power supply because each plate potential is isolated from the other.
Is this a type of capacitance we do not know about and the reason the water does not become conductive in the circuit is because that energy loop back through the battery is missing?
If we have restricted the current in the VIC by using magnetic fields to block back EMF then isolated both potentials of the cap plates from each other then current will not want to pass across the plates for two reasons. One being the obvious lack of current and the other being the fact that the normal path of energy we associate with a simple battery/cap process is not present.
Its almost as if Stan has tricked the capacitor into seeing an isolated positive potential on one plate and also tricked the cap into thinking the isolated ground on the other plate is related.
Then the cap sees the two potentials as battery terminals when they are not.





Matt Watts

Re: Tesla Meyer hybrid : unrelated capacitance potentials
« Reply #1, on February 8th, 2014, 12:49 PM »
You know nav, something you probably ought to look into a little is the KapaGen coil and circuit.  That thing started out with two separated grounds an evolved to a system using only one ground.  You might also notice the coil is a variant of what is known as a caduceus (tensor) coil.  Something special about the coil windings being wrapped in opposite directions--not sure what that does, but it might be something that could be done with the VIC.

Just something to add to the mix.  We all know with the correct mix, you'll get something special.

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Re: Tesla Meyer hybrid : unrelated capacitance potentials
« Reply #2, on February 9th, 2014, 03:39 AM »
Some good reading there Matt, been interesting learning about that technology which is largely based on Tesla stuff.
In all honesty Meyer technology seems to be based on something slightly different and a similar effect is a cold cathode system. Cold cathode systems use a Mosfet controlled input frequency and a pair of resonant inductors. Stan seems to have a similar system but he half rectifies the voltage going to the cold cathode. There is also current limiting taking place in cold cathode systems.


Heuristicobfuscation

Re: Tesla Meyer hybrid : unrelated capacitance potentials
« Reply #4, on March 3rd, 2014, 06:10 PM »
I think it has to do with keeping the circuit simple.  In later Schematics he does show a grounded secondary.

by having an isolated ground it makes it much more dificult to have other zero potential difference interfering with the
resonant circuit.

Also a common practice in [isolation Transformers] is used for safety reasons. Assuming a dead short on primary wont affect sensitive circuit on secondary.

most transformers have a bonded ground to all metal parts in the electronics or casing.

usually also bonds to earth ground. [assuming stans reasons one does not want "electron leakage trough ground']

ive also noticed that in other Stan Meyers drawing he indeed connects the transformer to ground. in these cases the drawings show the importance of polarity, basicly shows the inductor as polarity sensitive.