WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found

omgoo

WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« on November 7th, 2011, 10:39 AM »Last edited on November 16th, 2011, 06:19 AM by omgoo
I met someone a few weeks ago who had a paper copy of the Dealership sales manual. I managed to photograph every single page and then cleaned it up into a pdf. I've stuck a link up for you guys. I'll eventually remove it from this site so please distribute it.

EDIT: I've removed the file from my server now. Use Russ's link:

http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/Stan%20Meyer%20Dealership%20Sales%20Manual%201986.pdf



Enjoy

Phil :-)
RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #1, on November 7th, 2011, 02:59 PM »Last edited on November 7th, 2011, 03:43 PM by omgoo
Your welcome. I hope you will open sourcing any success that you get. It's the best way to stop it getting lost again. I will open source any results I get and any more new info that come my way. Although I haven't been very vocal over the years I have been watching the Meyer story with interest since I first heard about it in 2005. I appreciate all the work of the guys who have posted the other documents and any related images. Now however it is time to get a definitive answer on how to reproduce his work. Hopefully this info will help that along.

Here are some extra bits I photoed. I cleaned up the first two images but have left the third. The guy I got these off has 5 Meyer folders of info that he collected back in 1995/1996. I search through them for all info that I haven't seen before. I think I got everything that isn't already available on the net but I'll hopefully getting some more time with them near the end of December so I'll have a better check then.

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Here is a News Paper article from after his death. I don't have it all and I don't agree with the content but it is interesting to see.

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The full newspaper article is available here:

http://www.ukpressonline.co.uk/ukpressonline/open/index.jsp

In the search box search for simanowitz

This is the name of the director who filmed Meyer in the Equinox film. Searching for Meyer got too many results. It will cost you £4.99 for 48 hours access if you actually want to get the images. Not sure if it is worth it but I would like to see the missing text... I'll try and get the full article in December.
This image provides more info. I haven't seen this level of detail before. I can't believe I'd missed it.

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Phil :-)

~Russ

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #2, on November 8th, 2011, 11:09 AM »Last edited on November 9th, 2011, 03:43 PM by ~Russ/Rwg42985
Quote from omgoo on November 7th, 2011, 02:59 PM
Your welcome. I hope you will open sourcing any success that you get. It's the best way to stop it getting lost again. I will open source any results I get and any more new info that come my way. Although I haven't been very vocal over the years I have been watching the Meyer story with interest since I first heard about it in 2005. I appreciate all the work of the guys who have posted the other documents and any related images. Now however it is time to get a definitive answer on how to reproduce his work. Hopefully this info will help that along.

Here are some extra bits I photoed. I cleaned up the first two images but have left the third. The guy I got these off has 5 Meyer folders of info that he collected back in 1995/1996. I search through them for all info that I haven't seen before. I think I got everything that isn't already available on the net but I'll hopefully getting some more time with them near the end of December so I'll have a better check then.





Here is a News Paper article from after his death. I don't have it all and I don't agree with the content but it is interesting to see.





The full newspaper article is available here:

http://www.ukpressonline.co.uk/ukpressonline/open/index.jsp

In the search box search for simanowitz

This is the name of the director who filmed Meyer in the Equinox film. Searching for Meyer got too many results. It will cost you £4.99 for 48 hours access if you actually want to get the images. Not sure if it is worth it but I would like to see the missing text... I'll try and get the full article in December.

This image provides more info. I haven't seen this level of detail before. I can't believe I'd missed it.




Phil :-)
some amazing stuff my friend!

i will be making a video of this new info and also I'm uploading the Meyer dealership PDF here directly.

This as amazing amount of info. i hope you can get even more info soon!

blessings! ~Russ

I loving the page 10, “ The Water Fuel Cell is coming in by the people for the people”

Amazing!

here is the direct download : http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/russ/Stan%20Meyer%20Dealership%20Sales%20Manual%201986.pdf

phil

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #3, on November 8th, 2011, 12:11 PM »
Yeah that sure was an inspiring quote. I havnt had a chance to read it properly yet, just skimmed thru really.
Theres some info on the EPG i hadnt seen before. Plus all those diagrams i mucked around in photoshop trying to decode the blurred writing are there, nice and clear in all their glory!

~Russ

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #4, on November 8th, 2011, 12:51 PM »
Quote from phil on November 8th, 2011, 12:11 PM
Yeah that sure was an inspiring quote. I havnt had a chance to read it properly yet, just skimmed thru really.
Theres some info on the EPG i hadnt seen before. Plus all those diagrams i mucked around in photoshop trying to decode the blurred writing are there, nice and clear in all their glory!
nice! i have seen some of these on the EPG but there from his lecture and you cant read them well. me and the other phill has tried to desired them but we now don't need to. that's them! good stuff ! its a blessing phill! thanks!

~Russ

Oneminde

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #5, on November 8th, 2011, 01:06 PM »
@ Russ.
The attached file you added, I cannot download it - is the same as the one already posted?

omgoo

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #6, on November 8th, 2011, 03:11 PM »Last edited on November 8th, 2011, 03:12 PM by omgoo
Quote from Oneminde on November 8th, 2011, 01:06 PM
@ Russ.
The attached file you added, I cannot download it - is the same as the one already posted?
Yes it is the same one I posted just unzipped.

Thanks guys. As you can imagine I was quite excited when I was handed 5 files of Meyer documents to search through. The next meeting of our group is the 18th December so I'm hoping that the guy who has them will be there again. He told me he had some more stuff so fingers crossed it will be as good :-)

Cheers

Phil

Oneminde

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #7, on November 8th, 2011, 03:14 PM »Last edited on November 8th, 2011, 03:19 PM by Oneminde
Thank you for the info so far. How come the added pictures is not part of the dealership PDF? and do you have more info, such as the VIC transformer (number of turns for the coils, permeability of the core etc) - this is important information.

Thank you very much so far.
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Yes it is the same one I posted just unzipped.

Thanks guys. As you can imagine I was quite excited when I was handed 5 files of Meyer documents to search through. The next meeting of our group is the 18th December so I'm hoping that the guy who has them will be there again. He told me he had some more stuff so fingers crossed it will be as good :-)

Cheers

Phil
Sounds good. Let me know if you need any material and I will share what I have. Is it possible to "swap" with you?? - I have roughly 2GB of material to date.


omgoo

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #8, on November 8th, 2011, 04:15 PM »
Quote from Oneminde on November 8th, 2011, 03:14 PM
Thank you for the info so far. How come the added pictures is not part of the dealership PDF? and do you have more info, such as the VIC transformer (number of turns for the coils, permeability of the core etc) - this is important information.

Thank you very much so far.


Sounds good. Let me know if you need any material and I will share what I have. Is it possible to "swap" with you?? - I have roughly 2GB of material to date.
Those extra images were from the paper copy of the International Independent Test Evaluation Report. I snapped pictures of those because I knew I hadn't seen them in the version I have. Unfortunately I didn't take a full copy of it because I was distracted by the rest of the group coming back to the room where I was taking the pictures.

Oh the files names are dealerguidexxx because I exported all the images from Aperture (OSX app) with the custom name of dealerguidexxx.jpg So even images that weren't part of the dealer guide got this name.


The WFC Dealership manual is in its complete state in the pdf - or at least is a exact copy of the paper version. It was a tedious job to clean every image I can tell you! However I knew it was a star find and had two be released so I put the hours in.

Sorry no winding info on the VIC coil. I wish it was in there that is exactly what I had been looking for. Hopefully the extra info that I may see next time will shed some light on it. However if anyone is feeling flush with cash then apparently these guys have that  info: http://stansdream.com/stan_dvd.htm

I'm tempted to buy it but $220 is a lot of money for two DVD's when I probably have most of the info already... Anyone want to chip in?

I have about 6GB of Meyer info but 5.4GB is videos and some of those are duplicates. If you go to Globalkast.com and download all Tony's info then you have most of what I have. We could trade though but my Meyer folder isn't completely tidy. I have everything printed out and stored in a big file and a couple of bound books. I like highlighting the patents and books to help get my head around what Meyer is really trying to tell us...

Oh I do have these final images from the recently found files but it isn't Meyer's coil details.

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Oneminde

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #9, on November 8th, 2011, 11:07 PM »
@ Omgoo.

The material on Tony's page was purchased from Don, I was one of them who bought it and only part of the Material is published on globalkast. there is roughly 1.54GB or close to 400 files on that. Not including all the videos and patents etc. I can make you a torrent and send you this material, all you need to do is download it and keep new material coming ;) I also got some material replicated and that is under testing.

Spare your money - I will give it to you for free.

~Russ

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #10, on November 9th, 2011, 03:19 AM »
Quote from Oneminde on November 8th, 2011, 11:07 PM
@ Omgoo.

The material on Tony's page was purchased from Don, I was one of them who bought it and only part of the Material is published on globalkast. there is roughly 1.54GB or close to 400 files on that. Not including all the videos and patents etc. I can make you a torrent and send you this material, all you need to do is download it and keep new material coming ;) I also got some material replicated and that is under testing.

Spare your money - I will give it to you for free.
yep! lets do it! i will post a video to the torrent and get that info out there! ? let me know when you got it ready.

this stuff should not be sold any way! its should be free for everyone!!!!

(its all about the $$$$$$) i"m tired of that!!!!  lets make this place we live in better for all!

Thanks Oneminde, PS. Don is a good guy and he got what he wanted and now its time to give it all away! :)

blessings! ~Russ

Oneminde

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #11, on November 9th, 2011, 04:32 AM »Last edited on November 9th, 2011, 04:46 AM by Oneminde
Quote from Rwg42985 on November 9th, 2011, 03:19 AM
Quote from Oneminde on November 8th, 2011, 11:07 PM
@ Omgoo.

The material on Tony's page was purchased from Don, I was one of them who bought it and only part of the Material is published on globalkast. there is roughly 1.54GB or close to 400 files on that. Not including all the videos and patents etc. I can make you a torrent and send you this material, all you need to do is download it and keep new material coming ;) I also got some material replicated and that is under testing.

Spare your money - I will give it to you for free.
yep! lets do it! i will post a video to the torrent and get that info out there! ? let me know when you got it ready.

this stuff should not be sold any way! its should be free for everyone!!!!

(its all about the $$$$$$) i"m tired of that!!!!  lets make this place we live in better for all!

Thanks Oneminde, PS. Don is a good guy and he got what he wanted and now its time to give it all away! :)

blessings! ~Russ
Torrent is up for grabs. Have fun.
If the torrent pauses, just let it be and it will start when I start my computer again - I will force start the torrent. There is nothing wrong if it pauses, it is just me shutting down the computer for a few hours.

Regards

~Russ

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #12, on November 9th, 2011, 05:25 AM »
Quote from Oneminde on November 9th, 2011, 04:32 AM
Quote from Rwg42985 on November 9th, 2011, 03:19 AM
Quote from Oneminde on November 8th, 2011, 11:07 PM
@ Omgoo.

The material on Tony's page was purchased from Don, I was one of them who bought it and only part of the Material is published on globalkast. there is roughly 1.54GB or close to 400 files on that. Not including all the videos and patents etc. I can make you a torrent and send you this material, all you need to do is download it and keep new material coming ;) I also got some material replicated and that is under testing.

Spare your money - I will give it to you for free.
yep! lets do it! i will post a video to the torrent and get that info out there! ? let me know when you got it ready.

this stuff should not be sold any way! its should be free for everyone!!!!

(its all about the $$$$$$) i"m tired of that!!!!  lets make this place we live in better for all!

Thanks Oneminde, PS. Don is a good guy and he got what he wanted and now its time to give it all away! :)

blessings! ~Russ
Torrent is up for grabs. Have fun.

If the torrent pauses, just let it be and it will start when I start my computer again - I will force start the torrent. There is nothing wrong if it pauses, it is just me shutting down the computer for a few hours.

Regards
thanks , and for every one else i will re post it on the server once its done. you guys wont want to miss this download.

thanks! ~Russ

omgoo

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #13, on November 9th, 2011, 06:39 AM »
Quote from Rwg42985 on November 9th, 2011, 05:25 AM
thanks , and for every one else i will re post it on the server once its done. you guys wont want to miss this download.

thanks! ~Russ
Yes just got it too. It has lots of excellent pics. Cheers for hosting it Russ, my site can't take all these images, the bandwidth has been hammered enough with the 75Mb zip.

Phil

Farrah Day

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #14, on November 9th, 2011, 07:16 AM »
Just read through the dealership pdf.  I've read just about everything else by Meyer, but it's the first time I've seen this.

Not to put too much of a damper on things, but it reads very much like his Technical Brief.  A few things are clarified, such as what he sees as 'natural water' - which incidentally it seems can be just about any old type of water - but there is still a lot of psuedoscience here.  He constantly speaks of the 'electrically charging the water molecule', and saying things like, 'stabilziing the electrical polarity of the water molecule into existence' Huh???

The water molecule is electrically neutral, but how or why he would want to electrically charge the water molecule makes no sense, and as for 'stabilizing the electrical polarity of the water molecule'... well, this is meaningless gibberish. Like much of what Meyer states, it really doesn't mean anything in any real scientific terms whatsoever, which is why so many educated and learned people simply disregarded him.

What does intrigue me, is that at no point does Meyer ever even mention the water molecule ionising or consider the possibility of water ionising in order to produce H and O. He never compares what he claims to be doing with that of the normal ionisation process of standard Faraday electrolysis or at anytime even highlights the differences between what he claims he is achieving and Faraday electrolysis. It's as if ionisation of the water molecule is unknown to him. That said, I've always found Meyer's papers to be unscientific and nonsensical to say the very least.

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #15, on November 9th, 2011, 02:22 PM »Last edited on November 9th, 2011, 02:23 PM by Farrah Day
For some reason you seem to be very patronising... was it something I said?

Interesting that you seem to have all the answers H2Opower, yet Meyer never mentions ionisation. How do you explain that?

Are you sure you are not just making things up to fit what you would like to happen?

I'm not out to rub anyone up the wrong way, but talk of so-called 'lost science' seems a little far-fetched?  How and where is the water molecule losing 'two' electrons???  It seems to me that irrelevant of the 'right' questions being asked, what is sorely lacking is anything close to the 'right' answers.

~Russ


haxar

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #17, on November 10th, 2011, 11:10 AM »
Quote from Oneminde on November 9th, 2011, 04:32 AM
Torrent is up for grabs. Have fun.

If the torrent pauses, just let it be and it will start when I start my computer again - I will force start the torrent. There is nothing wrong if it pauses, it is just me shutting down the computer for a few hours.

Regards
Is the torrent still available? I don't see an attachment or a link to it on my end.

~Russ

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #18, on November 10th, 2011, 11:15 AM »
Quote from haxar on November 10th, 2011, 11:10 AM
Quote from Oneminde on November 9th, 2011, 04:32 AM
Torrent is up for grabs. Have fun.

If the torrent pauses, just let it be and it will start when I start my computer again - I will force start the torrent. There is nothing wrong if it pauses, it is just me shutting down the computer for a few hours.

Regards
Is the torrent still available? I don't see an attachment or a link to it on my end.
once i get the download i will upload it directly.

~Russ

Oneminde

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #19, on November 10th, 2011, 12:54 PM »
Quote from haxar on November 10th, 2011, 11:10 AM
Quote from Oneminde on November 9th, 2011, 04:32 AM
Torrent is up for grabs. Have fun.

If the torrent pauses, just let it be and it will start when I start my computer again - I will force start the torrent. There is nothing wrong if it pauses, it is just me shutting down the computer for a few hours.

Regards
Is the torrent still available? I don't see an attachment or a link to it on my end.
attaching a torrent is not allowed and it is private - The material will become available via Russ as he mentioned. Have patience my friend.

Regards

freethisone

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #20, on December 27th, 2011, 09:25 PM »
Interesting Link WFC

Just found this, and I thought i would pass it on. Find the links provided in the text.

cheers:rolleyes:

kazm

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found (OCR Converted)
« Reply #22, on January 15th, 2012, 08:41 PM »Last edited on January 15th, 2012, 10:03 PM by kazm
Hi all,

Given that the PDF is huge (95MB) due to it being all image scans I decided to convert it to a text based document by running an OCR program on it then spending some time cleaning it up and eyeballing it against the PDF, i've got it down to 4MB in size, uploaded to here for now:

Stan Meyer Dealership Sales Manual 1986 OCR CONVERTED.doc
http://www.mediafire.com/?wpqbhw183hi4g7b

(It's a Word doc, the smallest I can get it as a PDF is 23MB for some reason).

Cheers,
Kevin

Jeff Nading

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #23, on February 6th, 2012, 03:38 PM »
Did I miss something , whats this torrent youall are talking about :huh: .

~Russ

RE: WFC Dealership Sales Manual Found
« Reply #24, on February 7th, 2012, 01:51 AM »
Quote from Jeff Nading on February 6th, 2012, 03:38 PM
Did I miss something , whats this torrent youall are talking about :huh: .
no, they just converted the sales manual to a DOC for smaller size requirements.

~Russ