Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach

wsx

Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach
« on January 13th, 2014, 11:02 PM »
Out of all of Tesla's idea I think his frequency machine (oscillator) that could bend a beam. Some of Tesla's devices have a recurring theme of oscillation.

So ask yourself, how much energy would it take to bend an 10ft long "I beam" at 5 degrees with direct force?

Now how much energy would it take to bend it to 5 degrees with indirect form from teslas frequency machine?

So since this forum is about efficiency which is more efficient?
If you say frequency then shouldn't that be the direction most should look towards to?

Mythbusters did a show about his oscillator device but they are clown and have messed up many experiments which makes me wonder if it was intentional or if they are incompetent. I roll my eyes when they can not even replicate what they admit is true, or how they are stumped on some things that should be obvious.

Frequencies which some say "God breathed into existence the universe" and that was a frequency. To separate materials / join materials need can be done with frequency. Less work &more results than your average bruit force method.
Maybe some say I am wrong but what do others think?


wsx

RE: Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach
« Reply #2, on January 14th, 2014, 09:49 AM »Last edited on January 14th, 2014, 01:29 PM by wsx
Interesting but they say they do not believe in over unity.

Nikolai Tesla and his Earthquake Machine (was he wrong?)
Mythbusters show seaons 4 episode 17 shows they bending a I beams with a oscillator. Some sites online have it but they have malware that installs in your pc.

Now the rife machine also uses the same method and if Tesla's device does not work then the same principle should be applied to Rife's machine.

Size matters and when dealing with something big you can not apply the same principles exactly to them since it needs more attention. So what if a bug was 600 feet tall and would a single frequency take it down the same as a small germ? If an ant was 600 feet it would not hold up its own weight. So when dealing with something big shouldn't a different principle be involved? Should the frequency change when the amount of swaying happens?


freethisone

RE: Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach
« Reply #3, on January 15th, 2014, 09:20 AM »Last edited on January 15th, 2014, 03:33 PM by freethisone
Quote from Matt Watts on January 14th, 2014, 02:18 AM
It's all right there:

http://www.svpvril.com/

The real masters of our day knew about it and pursued it.
/watch?v=xyPfDX9hkyo:sleepy:

in this 10 min film you find two unique experiments to try. and one of them is related to
a motor. at 9 min 23 seconds the description of the experiment. a run away effect...  please some one must show this effect thanks again.
any one want to make a drawing, or do a test?:rolleyes: thanks. .

/watch?v=oNkJ5IVmCTw

dc current is ac current?


http://svpwiki.com/

Matt Watts

RE: Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach
« Reply #4, on January 15th, 2014, 04:20 PM »Last edited on January 15th, 2014, 04:44 PM by Matt Watts
Quote from freethisone on January 15th, 2014, 09:20 AM
dc current is ac current?
At extremely high frequency.  Pretty profound huh?  It means that electricity cannot move/flow unless it is in a state of vibration.  I have always thought there was something to that, then the diode came around and ruined my theory.

So maybe DC is actually alternating current at very high frequency but it is not balanced--has higher plus peaks than minus, so what we read on the meter and the scope is the average.  Take this a step further and apply a DC bias to a lower frequency AC signal, now what do have?  I would think it is essentially a modulated signal where the high frequency DC is actually the carrier frequency.

So lets complicate things even further.  At different frequencies the mode of propagation changes from longitudinal, to transverse, to raleigh.

Let's keep going:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebivg_nTA_8

Here's the complete playlist for anyone interested:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxrd3omNuzlJxuJPVWKViPOR3mdurhdWL


freethisone

RE: Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach
« Reply #6, on January 16th, 2014, 06:33 PM »Last edited on January 16th, 2014, 06:35 PM by freethisone
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a motor. at 9 min 23 seconds the description of the experiment. a run away effect...  please some one must show this effect thanks again.
any one want to make a drawing, or do a test?:rolleyes: thanks. .
/watch?v=i7LOF1GZpdo


here is the experiment described in the movie clip above. :D:D


see how simple? turn this rotating disk into a generator.

a runaway effect. so lenz law will be a friend out of sympothy..



Matt Watts

RE: Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach
« Reply #7, on January 16th, 2014, 09:17 PM »
Quote from freethisone on January 16th, 2014, 06:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7LOF1GZpdo

here is the experiment described in the movie clip above. :D:D

see how simple? turn this rotating disk into a generator.

a runaway effect. so lenz law will be a friend out of sympothy..
So Dale Pond said he brought that experiment to a group of electrical and mechanical engineers and they couldn't explain it.  The only thing I have that does tend to explain it is Ed Leedskalnin's vortex magnetic currents.  I think Dale refers to them as Raleigh or Lamb Waves.

I do think if you tried to run this in reverse as a generator, you would find the same thing I found with the N-Machine--It makes a huge amount of current, but the voltage is so low you need almost superconductors to keep from losing that amperage.

freethisone

RE: Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach
« Reply #8, on January 17th, 2014, 01:26 AM »Last edited on January 17th, 2014, 01:28 AM by freethisone
Quote from Matt Watts on January 16th, 2014, 09:17 PM
Quote from freethisone on January 16th, 2014, 06:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7LOF1GZpdo

here is the experiment described in the movie clip above. :D:D

see how simple? turn this rotating disk into a generator.

a runaway effect. so lenz law will be a friend out of sympothy..
So Dale Pond said he brought that experiment to a group of electrical and mechanical engineers and they couldn't explain it.  The only thing I have that does tend to explain it is Ed Leedskalnin's vortex magnetic currents.  I think Dale refers to them as Raleigh or Lamb Waves.

I do think if you tried to run this in reverse as a generator, you would find the same thing I found with the N-Machine--It makes a huge amount of current, but the voltage is so low you need almost superconductors to keep from losing that amperage.
what if you used current to charge a water cell , or the best use a ceramic heater. 1500 watts.

this is a Faraday disk motor, tap the outer ring. now i add my magnets how simple..:D
the back spikes would be over 300 volts.

Matt Watts

RE: Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach
« Reply #9, on January 17th, 2014, 02:01 AM »
Quote from freethisone on January 17th, 2014, 01:26 AM
what if you used current to charge a water cell , or the best use a ceramic heater. 1500 watts.
What I found with my N-Machine prototype is that the voltage is somewhere around 10 millivolts max.  So if you play Ohm's Law (I = V / R), you see with the resistance pulled down clear to 0.01 ohms, you only get 1 amp of output.  The device itself is capable of many amps, but the voltage is so low you lose it all in the conductors.
Quote from freethisone on January 17th, 2014, 01:26 AM
this is a Faraday disk motor, tap the outer ring. now i add my magnets how simple..:D
the back spikes would be over 300 volts.
A Faraday disk motor has one brush on the shaft and the other brush on the outside of the disk.  But what we see here is it's not necessary to do it that way.

You'll have to draw us a picture or make a cardboard model of what you are talking about with your magnets--I'm not seeing it in my head.

Getting back to the topic of frequency, it does seem like DC current is pushing in pulses though they seem like a steady stream.  I think the take-away from all this is that nothing is a steady flow; everything is pulsing at some frequency.


firepinto

RE: Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach
« Reply #11, on January 21st, 2014, 11:23 PM »
Now that is an interesting motor.:cool:  The best part about it, is that it is an extremely simple design.   I think this could be showing us an electrical property of a flywheel.  What if the reason a flywheel continues to spin for long periods of time is because it is generating it's own power just under unity?  

Seems like a relationship between magnetricity and inertia to me. :idea:

Matt Watts

RE: Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach
« Reply #12, on January 21st, 2014, 11:34 PM »Last edited on January 21st, 2014, 11:40 PM by Matt Watts
Quote from firepinto on January 21st, 2014, 11:23 PM
Seems like a relationship between magnetricity and inertia to me. :idea:
I am so confused.  Electricity, electromagnetic fields, hot electricity, cold electricity, magnetricity, Tesla electricity; is there no end to the terms?  But wait, there's more:  AC, DC, voltage, amperage, phase shift, positive electricity, negative electricity, magnetic current.  How's a guy in his garage ever supposed to figure this all out enough to build something really cool and really useful at the same time?

Zweistein

RE: Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach
« Reply #13, on January 22nd, 2014, 02:32 AM »
How's a guy in his garage ever supposed to figure this all out enough to build something really cool and really useful at the same time?[/quote]Hehe, move to your living room :D


firepinto

RE: Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach
« Reply #15, on January 22nd, 2014, 12:39 PM »
Quote from Matt Watts on January 21st, 2014, 11:34 PM
Quote from firepinto on January 21st, 2014, 11:23 PM
Seems like a relationship between magnetricity and inertia to me. :idea:
I am so confused.  Electricity, electromagnetic fields, hot electricity, cold electricity, magnetricity, Tesla electricity; is there no end to the terms?  But wait, there's more:  AC, DC, voltage, amperage, phase shift, positive electricity, negative electricity, magnetic current.  How's a guy in his garage ever supposed to figure this all out enough to build something really cool and really useful at the same time?
We should probably scrap all the names and make new ones. lol  First we need to find out what it really is we need to name.  I think volts and amps are just a symptom of the cause.  

Matt Watts

RE: Frequency is more powerful than the direct approach
« Reply #16, on January 23rd, 2014, 05:20 AM »Last edited on January 23rd, 2014, 05:26 AM by Matt Watts
Quote from firepinto on January 22nd, 2014, 12:39 PM
We should probably scrap all the names and make new ones. lol  First we need to find out what it really is we need to name.  I think volts and amps are just a symptom of the cause.
I agree.  Kind of like blood pressure--might tell you if you're dead, but it certainly can't ascertain exactly how alive and energetic you are.

Did you see Warren's video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbPsvjO9RtI

Places his hand next to the ammeter set to AC and the reading doubles.  How are we supposed to use such an instrument to get at raw energy?  You can't improve what you can't measure.