What if Fukushima radiation is harmless?

wsx

What if Fukushima radiation is harmless?
« on January 10th, 2014, 08:37 PM »Last edited on January 11th, 2014, 07:38 PM by wsx
Some sites seem to state how everyone is over exaggerating the radiation exposure saying that you get more radiation from bananas than uranium. Here are some quotes from pro uranium sites that advocate that people are not taught the truth about radiation to scare people. Some people believe that the radiation that Fukushima releases every day is harmless. It seems some scientist fights against other scientists about it all.

"radiation is all around us. We are inundated by it every single day of our entire lives. It isn’t killing us; it isn’t man-made..."

"Radiation is the most common, naturally occurring phenomenon in the entire universe. Our bodies are constantly exposed to this radiation from everything we encounter in our lives – our food, our water, the earth, rocks, trees, buildings, you name it."

"And the most astonishing thing is that radiation isn’t scary or dangerous. Our bodies are designed to be exposed to it every single day without any harm to our health."

"No. The minimum annual radiation exposure linked to an increased lifetime risk of cancer is 10,000 mrem, which is a hefty dose of radiation. How hefty, you might ask?

That’s the equivalent of having 1,000 medical x-rays in a year – almost 3 every single day."

"In short, it’s not easy to get cancer from radiation exposure. You would have to deliberately try to make it happen."
http://www.idigumining.com/radiation-reality-check/

"Well, a handful of raw uranium ore actually has about as much radiation as 10 bananas – a “bunch” that is. But, how could that be? It’s simple really. Banana’s are radioactive because they contain trace amounts of the naturally occurring radioactive isotope potassium–40, just like uranium ore contains trace amounts of the naturally occurring radioactive isotopes uranium-238 and 235. Shocking isn’t it?"
http://www.idigumining.com/just-how-radioactive-is-uranium-ore/

"What if we learned that our fear of radiation was based on a giant misunderstanding, and that in fact we are exposed to radiation every second of every day of our entire lives?

The average American is exposed to 620 mrem of radiation every year (mrem is the standard unit of measurement for radiation exposure), and it comes from a variety of sources that you cannot avoid, even if you wanted to.

Right now the building you’re in, the computer screen you’re looking at, the banana you’re munching on and the Earth itself are all showering you with radiation."
http://www.idigumining.com/get-a-grip-on-radiation-people/

And another site which talks about a documentary about how people over react to radiation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDw3ET3zqxk
"dispelling myths, showing the anti-nuclear movement as driven more by fervor than rationality and facing fully the implications of the Fukushima Daiichi accident. "
http://neinuclearnotes.blogspot.com/

I assume some saw this video "the nuclear boy scout" Which he seems ok after so many years dealing with uranium yet it references others that were not ok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1CZUhTJaHU

Gunther Rattay

RE: What if Fukushima radiation is harmless?
« Reply #1, on January 13th, 2014, 12:16 PM »
"What if Fukushima radiation is harmless?"


then all those poor creatures dying in the pacific ocean have committed suicide ...

and earth is a flat plate ...

Matt Watts

RE: What if Fukushima radiation is harmless?
« Reply #2, on January 13th, 2014, 12:52 PM »Last edited on January 13th, 2014, 01:00 PM by Matt Watts
Quote from bussi04 on January 13th, 2014, 12:16 PM
"What if Fukushima radiation is harmless?"

then all those poor creatures dying in the pacific ocean have committed suicide ...

and earth is a flat plate ...
But can I still get my 200 square foot micro-apartment in one of the new dome cities?


I don't know but it appears the new compliancy micro-chip that was injected into my brain must be defective.


Something else I like to do is ask better questions.  So here's one:  Do you suppose there are certain DNA sequences here on earth where the bodies containing those sequences are immune to radiation?

firepinto

RE: What if Fukushima radiation is harmless?
« Reply #3, on January 13th, 2014, 01:56 PM »
So if we are going to compare all the worlds radiation problems to bananas, how come we don't build war heads and nuke plants out of potasium-40?  I mean.. it's the same right?  Where's my banana power plant???

wsx

RE: What if Fukushima radiation is harmless?
« Reply #4, on January 13th, 2014, 02:31 PM »
I am just showing the rational of some people which some actually believe all is well and that people over react. But the site does state that nuclear energy has hurt less people than coal plants that pollute the atmosphere. Kind of like how extracting magnets pollutes the water and land (used for energy that makes turbines like windmills or dams), aluminum extraction from bauxite pollutes the land and water (which is used for solar power)

In short all technology is not economically friendly since they all pollute from how one extracts them, when in use, and when put to waste. I guess the argument they are trying to make is that it is less dangerous than the alternatives.

Funny thing many say that the ancient Greeks were stupid to not exploit the many technology they discovered, but they did not bother with them for many reasons including the pollution. Progress in society means to sacrifice your environment. Something like thorium energy would be better but was not used since countries can not make a bomb out of it. Hmmm i wonder why Iran did not use thorium... I expect since they want a bomb too to defense.

Well everyone should read Matt Watts' Fukushima 101 post. http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=1666  (hmm notice the end of his post number.)

Gunther Rattay

RE: What if Fukushima radiation is harmless?
« Reply #5, on January 15th, 2014, 02:37 PM »Last edited on January 15th, 2014, 02:38 PM by bussi04
Quote from Matt Watts on January 13th, 2014, 12:52 PM
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Something else I like to do is ask better questions.  So here's one:  Do you suppose there are certain DNA sequences here on earth where the bodies containing those sequences are immune to radiation?
I think so. mind over matter should work anyway as Arnold Gerrit Henske showed.

http://www.20min.ch/wissen/gesundheit/story/20060923

but you must have the right intention and you must be absolutely sure that it works.

if Breatharianism works as I tested out (living without eating and drinking) then almost anything else should work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia

KevinW_EnhancedLiving

RE: What if Fukushima radiation is harmless?
« Reply #6, on January 18th, 2014, 11:01 PM »
Quote from wsx on January 10th, 2014, 08:37 PM
Some sites seem to state how everyone is over exaggerating the radiation exposure saying that you get more radiation from bananas than uranium. Here are some quotes from pro uranium sites that advocate that people are not taught the truth about radiation to scare people. Some people believe that the radiation that Fukushima releases every day is harmless. It seems some scientist fights against other scientists about it all.

"radiation is all around us. We are inundated by it every single day of our entire lives. It isn’t killing us; it isn’t man-made..."

"Radiation is the most common, naturally occurring phenomenon in the entire universe. Our bodies are constantly exposed to this radiation from everything we encounter in our lives – our food, our water, the earth, rocks, trees, buildings, you name it."

"And the most astonishing thing is that radiation isn’t scary or dangerous. Our bodies are designed to be exposed to it every single day without any harm to our health."

"No. The minimum annual radiation exposure linked to an increased lifetime risk of cancer is 10,000 mrem, which is a hefty dose of radiation. How hefty, you might ask?

That’s the equivalent of having 1,000 medical x-rays in a year – almost 3 every single day."

"In short, it’s not easy to get cancer from radiation exposure. You would have to deliberately try to make it happen."
http://www.idigumining.com/radiation-reality-check/

"Well, a handful of raw uranium ore actually has about as much radiation as 10 bananas – a “bunch” that is. But, how could that be? It’s simple really. Banana’s are radioactive because they contain trace amounts of the naturally occurring radioactive isotope potassium–40, just like uranium ore contains trace amounts of the naturally occurring radioactive isotopes uranium-238 and 235. Shocking isn’t it?"
http://www.idigumining.com/just-how-radioactive-is-uranium-ore/

"What if we learned that our fear of radiation was based on a giant misunderstanding, and that in fact we are exposed to radiation every second of every day of our entire lives?

The average American is exposed to 620 mrem of radiation every year (mrem is the standard unit of measurement for radiation exposure), and it comes from a variety of sources that you cannot avoid, even if you wanted to.

Right now the building you’re in, the computer screen you’re looking at, the banana you’re munching on and the Earth itself are all showering you with radiation."
http://www.idigumining.com/get-a-grip-on-radiation-people/

And another site which talks about a documentary about how people over react to radiation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDw3ET3zqxk
"dispelling myths, showing the anti-nuclear movement as driven more by fervor than rationality and facing fully the implications of the Fukushima Daiichi accident. "
http://neinuclearnotes.blogspot.com/

I assume some saw this video "the nuclear boy scout" Which he seems ok after so many years dealing with uranium yet it references others that were not ok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1CZUhTJaHU
I

Radiation can be a big fear tactic. Dont want to speculate more than that here.

thx1138v2

Re: What if Fukushima radiation is harmless?
« Reply #7, on March 19th, 2014, 06:44 PM »
This article basically says that the radiation exposure guidelines were set incorreclty. They were developed in the late 1940's and 50's and were extrapolated from what was observed at the Japanese bomb sites. The scientists knew there was a threshold level under which there is miniscule danger but did not include that threshold in the guidelines.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130813201434.htm