Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)

nav

Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)
« on January 8th, 2014, 02:59 PM »Last edited on January 8th, 2014, 03:02 PM by nav
Gonna start testing soon, but first you can do this a few ways. Firstly you can build a simple circuit like this with two bar magnets, a pulse width modulator and a primary and a secondary on a ferrite core with a resistive load.

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I've already successfully done that.

Then you can copy Stan's schematic like this:-

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Now if you do this you will need a variable resistive load marked R1. A and B are the electromagnets. I would start off small and work up with the windings. Follow Stan's schematic for coil winding direction to begin with and include the diode so the poles are correct on the magnets. Same with the primary marked 'p' and the secondary marked 's' don't be going heavy. Primary and secondary don't want to be too big so I suggest we go for a step up of 3-1 with fine wire. We don't want to saturate the core with too powerful electromagnets. PWM needs to be monitored so connect oscilloscope to monitor frequency and pulse width. If we get too much saturation we can increase the time in between the pulse widths. The resistive load will decompress the time intervals but the electromagnets cannot so don't worry about power going into the load. If the electromagnets are too powerful then you can increase the load at R1 too. Not bothering with fuel cells at this point because we need R1 to be as static as we can get it for testing purposes and a fuel cell will screw that up.
We need to connect an amp meter in between the power supply and the PWM to monitor current draw. Try to use ferrite not iron or any efficient core material that will not saturate easily.
Then we play.
It will take time and experimentation. Good luck.





nav

RE: Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)
« Reply #3, on January 9th, 2014, 10:45 AM »Last edited on January 9th, 2014, 10:47 AM by nav
Quote from Breakzeitgeist on January 8th, 2014, 08:49 PM
what about a gas core? like the EPG
Not needed, its BS.


Quote from geenee on January 8th, 2014, 09:35 PM
could you post polarity of magnet from first picture,please.

thanks
geenee
The magnets have to be the same direction in polarity on both sides so the enhanced flux path goes in the right direction and the back EMF is restricted in the other direction. Trial and error, watch the amp meter, if they are on the wrong way the amps will go up, if they are on the right way the amps will go down.

Breakzeitgeist

RE: Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)
« Reply #4, on January 9th, 2014, 01:50 PM »
im sorry Nav but what does BS mean? You saying you have tryed connecting the epg to fuel cell?and know your right about your theory? well lets see it? video something so i can get on right path with you. but if your just talking and have no set up how can you call BS on something no one has documented as not working? I think you might just be BS..what ever that means. i mean no disrespect but you should not BS anything you know nothing about

Quote from Breakzeitgeist on January 9th, 2014, 01:50 PM
im sorry Nav but what does BS mean? You saying you have tryed connecting the epg to fuel cell?and know your right about your theory? well lets see it? video something so i can get on right path with you. but if your just talking and have no set up how can you call BS on something no one has documented as not working? I think you might just be BS..what ever that means. i mean no disrespect but you should not BS anything you know nothing about
EPG is a red herring, it exists because Meyer couldn't patent electromagnets and he tried to patent every aspect of his WFC and tie down the design. Parts of his apparatus have names that no one is familiar with in classical electronics but are already well known electronic components. He cost people thousands of dollars and thousands of hours by doing this instead of being 100% honest.
Now the reason why he did it may be because if the patent office had realized he was talking about over unity devices he would have been marched back out of the patent office just like his predecessors had been. So I can forgive Stan for being protective of what he was doing and applying a little self preservation but in the end they caught up with him.
Breakzeitgeist, if you believe in the EPG and want to pursue it then you can, I'm not stopping you or criticizing you for having done so, personally speaking i'm not interested in it.
My aim is to prove Meyer's VIC and some of the component parts such as self resonant charging chokes are none other than electromagnets and Mr Meyer was being very cagey. I do have my own equipment, I have done tests, I have built my own VIC from scratch, wound my own coils, built a water fuel cell and built a gated pulse width to drive it. If I think Mr Meyer has been using red herrings or abbreviate it has BS then I will do. Have a nice day.

 




geenee

RE: Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)
« Reply #6, on January 9th, 2014, 04:00 PM »Last edited on January 9th, 2014, 04:05 PM by geenee
i am really sure Meyer work with overunity devices or something has more output than input.but if we find how to make it work in easiest way then this technology can not be block.after all people know about that you can use brute force without worry about power.

in my experiment,distilled water can make high gas output with high voltage only if you don't use electrolyte.but it use more power too(1000w+).

Breakzeitgeist

RE: Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)
« Reply #7, on January 9th, 2014, 05:03 PM »Last edited on January 9th, 2014, 05:06 PM by Breakzeitgeist
YOu want to see over unity and how to do it stay tuned....Unity is better word
The Ether is a form of energy......cold radient ect... its the ether and E=mc2 is a bogus speed limit the Cubit is 1 speed of light measure great perimid circle*square and you will have the speed of light wich is 1 cubit how dare they try and put a speed limit sign on us

Quote from Breakzeitgeist on January 9th, 2014, 05:03 PM
YOu want to see over unity and how to do it stay tuned....Unity is better word

The Ether is a form of energy......cold radient ect... its the ether and E=mc2 is a bogus speed limit the Cubit is 1 speed of light measure great perimid circle*square and you will have the speed of light wich is 1 cubit how dare they try and put a speed limit sign on us
Why don't you let people decide for themselves? The members are all entitled to perform experiments based on their collective knowledge and experience of what does and doesn't work.
There will be one judge and one judge alone that will determine the outcome of this Stan Meyer project and that is success.
I've seen 'stay tuned' a thousand times my friend. I don't tell people to stay tuned, I give them a viable idea then let them decide for themselves what is right and what is wrong.



Jeff Nading

RE: Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)
« Reply #9, on January 10th, 2014, 06:10 PM »
Quote from Breakzeitgeist on January 9th, 2014, 01:50 PM
im sorry Nav but what does BS mean? You saying you have tryed connecting the epg to fuel cell?and know your right about your theory? well lets see it? video something so i can get on right path with you. but if your just talking and have no set up how can you call BS on something no one has documented as not working? I think you might just be BS..what ever that means. i mean no disrespect but you should not BS anything you know nothing about
You know,  when you sarcastically say your sorry and  say you mean no disrespect and then go ahead and disrespect someone on this forum, like you have done, holds no credit with me or anyone else on this forum, in other words your post don't mean anything and hold no merit. So I would suggest YOU TONE IT DOWN, if you value your membership, fair warning has been given.


nav

RE: Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)
« Reply #11, on January 11th, 2014, 02:24 AM »
Quote from Breakzeitgeist on January 10th, 2014, 08:10 PM
he disrespected me but i forgive you all. Take it easy i will just keep my mouth closed from here on out, I truly was trying to help....no BS  thanks for the warning.
/watch?v=m5ffbfocFmU&feature=youtu.be

That is an interesting effect my friend. But here is what I would do, start a thread about it, explain in detail how you have created this effect and what is needed by other members to reproduce it.
There are some strange effects on your video's for sure but you seem to blight the video's with things that are unrelated to what you are showing us.
Get a little more organized and show us what is going on in your vids.

Matt Watts

RE: Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)
« Reply #12, on January 11th, 2014, 06:43 AM »
Quote from nav on January 11th, 2014, 02:24 AM
That is an interesting effect my friend. But here is what I would do, start a thread about it, explain in detail how you have created this effect and what is needed by other members to reproduce it.
There are some strange effects on your video's for sure but you seem to blight the video's with things that are unrelated to what you are showing us.
Get a little more organized and show us what is going on in your vids.
Tetryonics aay.

Hmmm...   Maybe we should take a closer look.

And yes Nav, I agree, we need to get him a thread of his own to really lay this all out there.  I wouldn't be surprised for a second to discover this all goes full circle back to what you're finding out too.

Farrah Day

RE: Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)
« Reply #13, on January 11th, 2014, 07:39 AM »
Quote from nav on January 11th, 2014, 02:24 AM
That is an interesting effect my friend. But here is what I would do, start a thread about it, explain in detail how you have created this effect and what is needed by other members to reproduce it.
There are some strange effects on your video's for sure but you seem to blight the video's with things that are unrelated to what you are showing us.
Get a little more organized and show us what is going on in your vids.
Well, I took a look at that video and to be honest I don't have a clue what it was about, what I was supposed to be looking at or indeed what was happening. Too many distracting flashing images to start with and I immediately had to press mute. No explanation at all as to what you are doing or what was occurring. Just don't get it. :huh: That said I did lose interest halfway through the annoying flashing images at the start.


Matt Watts

RE: Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)
« Reply #14, on January 11th, 2014, 12:39 PM »Last edited on January 11th, 2014, 12:42 PM by Matt Watts
Quote from Farrah Day on January 11th, 2014, 07:39 AM
Well, I took a look at that video and to be honest I don't have a clue what it was about, what I was supposed to be looking at or indeed what was happening. Too many distracting flashing images to start with and I immediately had to press mute. No explanation at all as to what you are doing or what was occurring. Just don't get it. :huh: That said I did lose interest halfway through the annoying flashing images at the start.
Oh Farrah, you need a 13 year old in your house to educate you on this New Wave stuff.  They have a whole different view of the world than us.  My son does this to me daily (have me watch his videos), so seeing Breakzeitgeist's video didn't throw me over the edge as it would have otherwise.

The thing that really got my attention was the two vertical conductors being jumpered and still being able to illuminate the light bulb when it was attached to those same conductors.  That is not normal unless the jumper wire had a broken conductor or the solder joint came loose.  Now that could certainly be the case and needs to be ruled out, but if in fact the jumper wire was good, that means you can extract electrical energy from what should be a dead short.  If that is for real, I want to learn more about it.  Magic trick or science?  Let's find out.

I will promise you though Farrah, if I can do it, understand it and explain it, I will make you a video you won't mind watching.  :)




Jeff Nading

RE: Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)
« Reply #18, on January 11th, 2014, 06:36 PM »Last edited on January 11th, 2014, 06:39 PM by Jeff Nading
Quote from Breakzeitgeist on January 11th, 2014, 05:08 PM
/watch?v=FdTfmK173s4/watch?v=FdTfmK173s4
Breakzeitgeist, I updated your posts to include the videos you made and posted in your last post, so we could see them first hand "in your posts". As I watched them, I realized that I might have miss-read or been a little hasty in my judgement of you, maybe because of  your post to Nav. You truly are someone we need on this forum, agreed with things you stated in your second video. As you stated we are all imperfect and do make mistakes at times and am sorry for being course with you.
I also realize you are trying to help in the endeavor we all are part of, to make this planet a much better place to live, as we are all equal.
Please continue in your posts here, I feel you have something to add and worth while, the last part of your second video when you explained the circuit was awesome,:cool: but please lets also be kind to one another and realize we all have the same goal, working together is the best way, diplomacy goes a long way when ever we speak and have others listen to us, as I know you have from your second video, great job by the way,Jeff.


Matt Watts

RE: Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)
« Reply #20, on January 11th, 2014, 10:04 PM »
Quote from Breakzeitgeist on January 11th, 2014, 03:41 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT6MTNNIBMk
as promised and sorry you dont like my music and pictures
Request for you.  Since you have this operational, could you make a short list of the things that seem to run fine on Cold Electricity and things that don't?

I'm curious about motors, electromagnets and most of all electrolysis (maybe need a diode for that though).  Since it doesn't knock you on your rear when you touch it, I'm guessing it won't initiate electrolysis, but if it does, that would sure be good to know.

Also, when it's arcing, does it make ozone?

And when you run it through that long wire or even a coil, does it get stronger?


Thanks much for sharing this by the way.  It's very nice to have someone drop in here at the forum and cause such a pleasant stir for a change.

nav

RE: Meyer test schematic (relating to the laughing all the way to the bank threads)
« Reply #21, on January 12th, 2014, 03:51 AM »
Anyway, back to the schematic of the Meyer design. Because we need the saturation of the core to be as high as possible we are purchasing black Magnetite powder at around $20 per kilogram or in English £10 a kilogram.
The higher we get the saturation point in the core, the more juice we can pump into the system via the ratio between the primary and secondary. Then the possibility of a stacker system.
A stacker system is where we take an initial primary of perhaps 12 vdc pulsed and step that up to 120 vdc pulsed in the secondary. We then take the 120vdc pulsed and step that up to 1200 vdc by means of a new core with more electromagnets. This could be done many times till you end up with a very high voltage.
But first we have to walk before we can run so the name of the game is the first step of creating the cold Electricity that Tesla created using Stan's patent.
Breakzeitgeist has kindly demonstrated for us how Tesla did it and that it does exist.
The game is on brothers.