Hello again.
I guess since this is open source I should just start a thread and add to it as my project proceeds. Lester Hendershot built some custom 'basket' coils that used wooden dowel pegs as the vertical structural members of his construction. Google his name and you will find him... Anyhow, his coils used 57 'pins' or 'pegs' to do his winding.
Let's explore this number a little bit okay? Long division:
A circle has 360 DEGREES so if you divide 360 by 57 you end up with 6 (and a remainder of 18...). Drop a zero down and you notice that you have 180 to contend with. Remember these are degrees so you now have 57 dividing into 180 DEGREES. Interesting maybe... So the 57 goes in three times with a remainder of 9... Now we drop down another zero and try to get 57 into 90 DEGREES. Hmmm... Only goes in there once and we end up with a remainder again... So we get 360/57=6.31...
 There is only one way to divide 57 besides by one, and that is 19 x 3... Are these primes making anyone else suspicious of a conspiracy?!? Every third 'peg' is almost 19 DEGREES as well (not that that means anything...) The numbers start to eventually loop too when you do the math...
Anyhow, my coil idea; If I wind three seperate (19 point) starship-type coils (each wrapped on every 7th peg) it starts to look sort of like a Rodin coil (but doesn't every spirograph heh heh...)... The distance to complete one 'loop' of coil is about 11 times the circumference of the coil itself... No idea how I would 'weave' the wire between layers or pegs... (Guess that is why they call it an experiment right?) Anyhow, any feedback would be appreciated. I will post some pics when I take them eventually someday... The initial drawings look pretty anyways! ;)
Bassman (Derrick)

I understand the Rodin has two windings in opposite directions and the shape is to facilitate easy current flow so I might construct two coils with three wraps each. Questions I've been stumbling on are of size; how big? Numbers I also run into are 33, 11, and 4 so maybe three wraps? Seven? If I use hollow carbon tubes is there a way to use a conductor inside to collect the emf 'stress' when the current runs around the pegs to use as 'push' to counter the back emf? Would using magnets in carbon tubes work somehow? (How to connect?). Anyhow, lots of things to think about...

Quote from BaronBassman on October 20th, 2011, 06:56 PM

Hello again.
I guess since this is open source I should just start a thread and add to it as my project proceeds. Lester Hendershot built some custom 'basket' coils that used wooden dowel pegs as the vertical structural members of his construction. Google his name and you will find him... Anyhow, his coils used 57 'pins' or 'pegs' to do his winding.
Let's explore this number a little bit okay? Long division:
A circle has 360 DEGREES so if you divide 360 by 57 you end up with 6 (and a remainder of 18...). Drop a zero down and you notice that you have 180 to contend with. Remember these are degrees so you now have 57 dividing into 180 DEGREES. Interesting maybe... So the 57 goes in three times with a remainder of 9... Now we drop down another zero and try to get 57 into 90 DEGREES. Hmmm... Only goes in there once and we end up with a remainder again... So we get 360/57=6.31...
 There is only one way to divide 57 besides by one, and that is 19 x 3... Are these primes making anyone else suspicious of a conspiracy?!? Every third 'peg' is almost 19 DEGREES as well (not that that means anything...) The numbers start to eventually loop too when you do the math...
Anyhow, my coil idea; If I wind three seperate (19 point) starship-type coils (each wrapped on every 7th peg) it starts to look sort of like a Rodin coil (but doesn't every spirograph heh heh...)... The distance to complete one 'loop' of coil is about 11 times the circumference of the coil itself... No idea how I would 'weave' the wire between layers or pegs... (Guess that is why they call it an experiment right?) Anyhow, any feedback would be appreciated. I will post some pics when I take them eventually someday... The initial drawings look pretty anyways! ;)
Bassman (Derrick)

i have heard of this 'basket' coil and haven't found any info on it. could you post some info here photos or links? i think this will be interesting! go for it! looking forward to seeing your test's
~Russ
 

Quote from Rwg42985 on October 21st, 2011, 09:42 AM

i have heard of this 'basket' coil and haven't found any info on it. could you post some info here photos or links? i think this will be interesting! go for it! looking forward to seeing your test's
~Russ

I made one but I will dig up some info for you this weekend. Interesting stuff!

Quote from BaronBassman on October 21st, 2011, 07:52 PM

Quote from Rwg42985 on October 21st, 2011, 09:42 AM

i have heard of this 'basket' coil and haven't found any info on it. could you post some info here photos or links? i think this will be interesting! go for it! looking forward to seeing your test's
~Russ

I made one but I will dig up some info for you this weekend. Interesting stuff!

http://www.rexresearch.com/hendershot/hendershot.htm
I will take some pics of the one I built and see if I can find some YouTube stuff when I get a chance...

A coil I wound a couple years ago...[attachment=383]
I drilled a hole in the middle to pivot the acrylic on so the holes for the vertical 'pins' (which will be carbon rods) on this coil will be as round as I can get them...[attachment=384]
Holes drilled with the protective paper removed...[attachment=385]
Acrylic sitting on top of my hybrid coil drawing...[attachment=386]
My drill press setup isn't ideal so a few of the holes didn't drill exactly 90 degrees through the acrylic  (the corners of the plastic ran into the shaft of the drill press so I had to move the pivot 'jig', grrr...) but I think that I will be able to adjust the carbon rods that weren't within a liveable tolerance...

Quote from BaronBassman on October 23rd, 2011, 11:33 AM

A coil I wound a couple years ago...
I drilled a hole in the middle to pivot the acrylic on so the holes for the vertical 'pins' (which will be carbon rods) on this coil will be as round as I can get them...
Holes drilled with the protective paper removed...
Acrylic sitting on top of my hybrid coil drawing...
My drill press setup isn't ideal so a few of the holes didn't drill exactly 90 degrees through the acrylic  (the corners of the plastic ran into the shaft of the drill press so I had to move the pivot 'jig', grrr...) but I think that I will be able to adjust the carbon rods that weren't within a liveable tolerance...

hummmm, interesting! good work so far!

~Russ

Decided to do a Hendershot 'style' coil before trying some other things (like the starship hybrid...). Used an entire spool of 30 AWG magnet wire for the 'C' part of the coil (about 120 wraps) and 24 AWG magnet wire for the 'A' and 'B' winds (around 22 wraps each). Since I used smaller wire I decided to do a double coil on the same carbon rods. Should end up with about a three inch high coil. I think I need bigger capacitors as the ceramic ones I have are too small (he used 40mFd and 80mFd) Things to remember when doing one of these style coils: angle your anchor pins at a slight angle outward because wrapping baskets seems to pull the tops inward making the coil a little bit cone shaped. I also still need to get a couple step up transformers (size?). Hendershot used two 1:5 push/pull radio transformers...
Some pics including one of the pen-winder I put together to weave the wires in-between the 1/16" carbon rods.
Will add more 'thoughts' on the 'basket coil' and what it does (?) and why it may be the reason Hendershot's device worked (whether the 57 pins were a factor or not?).
Happy Halloween everyone!
Derrick

http://www.svensons.com/Energy/hendershot2.html
This particular paper is quite specific about the building of the coil but says that the outer wrap is 18ga wire, not 28 guage...
http://www.svensons.com/Energy/hendershot.html
This one has 1/8" dowel pins instead of 1/16"...
http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=153
One of the YouTube vids I've run across. Morpher44 does some work with them...
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/supressed_inventions/suppressed_inventions38.htm
Some writings from his son...

I finished wrapping my double basket with about 400' 30ga and 140' 24ga altogether... An interesting art project (at this point...) for the moment. I need(ed) to start with the handmade caps (first!!), get a cap bridge for testing purposes (second...), and go from there. I get excited about a project and don't plan very well sometimes... (Insert sheepish grin here.) Hendershot's baskets weren't this labor intensive heh heh...
I want to do a 'floating' axle and I finally got some decent neos so I might mess around with that...
Will post a new thread perhaps when I have something to post.
Keep up the great work Russ (and everyone else on this forum!)!!

You guys are doing some good work here!

This got passed along to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-guWgxvFxk0

Mabby some one can get him to joyn and post on this thred? Or others?

Keep it up! Intresting results!

~Russ

Quote from Rwg42985 on November 5th, 2011, 07:33 AM

You guys are doing some good work here!

This got passed along to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-guWgxvFxk0

Mabby some one can get him to joyn and post on this thred? Or others?

Keep it up! Intresting results!

~Russ

That's a great idea! I might try to get in touch with him after I've got more to work with/talk about...
In regards to the coil etc...I believe Hendershot's invention truly worked and it is worth trying to duplicate. I will try again in the future I am sure. For whatever reason I feel 'drawn' (for lack of a better word) towards these and other similar devices. They make some sort of sense but in a way that is like seeing something out of the corner of your eye, ya know? I have tomorrow to do a little tinkering around so I may get something done heh heh... Keep up the experimenting!
Derrick

Did you get it to work? I hate when people don't follow up.

I spent quite a bit of time looking at this project and was down to collecting materials for the build when I ran into the problem of the U magnet. Some said the magnet was from a radar magnetron. There really weren't any specs on the magnet or its field strength. Digging down through lots of notes there was a comment that the size of the cap/coil combo unit was related to the size of the poles of the magnet. That doesn't make a lot of sense unless you consider all magnets to be the same which wasn't true back in the 50's and is even less so now with the neodymiums. Even back in the 50's there were Alnico and Samarium Cobalt magnets.

If the note is true then it has to be relative to the strength of the field as well as the size of the poles. Since the magnet is the only energy source in the device it's impossible to tell what the frequency should be without the specs on the magnet. I suspect one could experiment for the rest of their lives and not hit the right combination of pole size, field strength, and cap/coil construction.

I was going to build one using hard drive magnets using 3 or 4 pieces to make the 180 degree arc but later found they are not magnetized correctly for this device. Buying those magnets on eBay got the price down to around $500. I couldn't even find Alnico magnets the approximate size as shown in some pictures of Hendershot's build. I did find an old radar magnet for $675 which I considered but it had mounting holes drilled or cast through the ends of the poles. I had no idea what that would do to the magnetic field so blew that off.

And on second thought, even with the hard drive magnets at a total cost of $500, that seemed a bit much to maybe light one 100 Watt light bulb. It wouldn't pay for itself in my lifetime even if I could get it to work when no one else has. So I gave it up.

One thing to note if anyone wants to try it. The transformers cannot be simple 5:1 power transformers. It's specified in the notes somewhere that they must be "vertical oscillator type". That's a type built on an E core and with an insulated gap between the ends of the E and the I that is mounted to close the magnetic loop. It affects the saturation of the transformer.

If anyone wants my notes I can upload them but I look at it as a dead end because no one has replicated it in over 60 years as far as I know.