Alum EDL for Free energy?

wsx

Alum EDL for Free energy?
« on October 1st, 2013, 12:53 PM »Last edited on October 1st, 2013, 01:12 PM by wsx
I think someone else posted about this Tesla Charger which no one seems to have bothered to follow up on it about the Crystal Battery Light

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5xf3pj35eA
If the alum and water were sealed in a bottle how long would that last? Sounds too simple to be plausible.

"Alum is used to clarify water by neutralizing the electrical double layer surrounding very fine suspended particles, allowing them to flocculate (stick together). After flocculation, the particles will be large enough to settle and can be removed." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alum

"The electrical double layer (EDL) is a structure which describes the variation of electric potential near a surface, and has a significant influence on the behaviour of colloids and other surfaces in contact with solutions or solid-state fast ion conductors.
The primary difference between a DL on an electrode and one on an interface is the mechanisms of surface charge formation. With an electrode, it is possible to regulate the surface charge by applying an external electric potential. This application, however, is impossible in colloidal and porous DLs, because for colloidal particles, one does not have access to the interior of the particle to apply a potential difference." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_double_layer

Lynx

RE: Alum EDL for Free energy?
« Reply #1, on October 1st, 2013, 01:12 PM »
I think that white layer will take it's toll both under normal operation and after a while when it's not used.
If it relies on distilled deionised water that itself is pretty indicative that it's somewhat vulnerable to anything else and given that even deionised water decays in time you pretty much rely on fresh water, could be rain water by all means, but how often does it rain?
Still it looks pretty cool, just add water and get a light

Jeff Nading

RE: Alum EDL for Free energy?
« Reply #2, on October 1st, 2013, 08:04 PM »
There is a guy on YT called lid motor who makes these and has done many experiments with them. :cool:

freethisone

RE: Alum EDL for Free energy?
« Reply #3, on October 16th, 2013, 02:32 PM »Last edited on October 16th, 2013, 06:01 PM by freethisone
hey thats great, EDL electric double layer. i always was wondering what that was.

with that ED.L.  working on one layer only. negative ion potential. you will have an electric inflow and a cooling of space. This is based on the ion wind.

also i was trying to figure out what was placed in the bag-dad battery, i had said salt water. Tesla had mentioned salt, and now you have this.. go figure. good work.

but i was also considering the use of either copper oxidized, or iron oxide. and salt water.

now you have two that would work together with a particular metal, magnesium and copper perhaps The (alum)

:idea:..  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorphous_silica-alumina:)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search  Amorphous silica-alumina contains sites which are termed Brønsted acid (or protic) sites,with an ionizable hydrogen atom, and Lewis acid (aprotic), electron accepting sites and these different types of acidic site can be distinguished http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C3%B8nsted_acid

Amorphous silica alumina is a synthetic substance that is used as a catalyst or catalyst support, or as an acid in a battery perhaps?

Salts

A common kind of hydrolysis occurs when a salt of a weak acid or weak base (or both) is dissolved in water. Water spontaneously ionizes into hydroxyl anions and hydrogen cations. The salt, too, dissociates into its constituent anions and cations. For example, sodium acetate dissociates in water into sodium and acetate ions. Sodium ions react very little with the hydroxyl ions whereas the acetate ions combine with hydrogen ions to produce acetic acid. In this case the net result is a relative excess of hydroxyl ions, giving a basic solution.

Strong acids also undergo hydrolysis. For example, dissolving sulfuric acid (H2SO4) in water is accompanied by hydrolysis to give hydronium and bisulfate, the sulfuric acid's conjugate base. For a more technical discussion of what occurs during such a hydrolysis, see Brønsted–Lowry acid–base theory.


A fuel cell is a device that converts the chemical energy from a fuel into electricity through a chemical reaction with oxygen or another oxidizing agent.[1] Hydrogen is the most common fuel, but hydrocarbons such as natural gas and alcohols like methanol are sometimes used. Fuel cells are different from batteries in that they require a constant source of fuel and oxygen/air to sustain the chemical reaction; however, fuel cells can produce electricity continually for as long as these inputs are supplied.


so i say if these hydroxyl are key, just do it to water, and run it in the motor some may say it was a conditioned water to run a motor bike. i  just need to vaporize it with say a glow plug before the chamber.