versatile function generator for creation of Stan Meyer pulse trains

Gunther Rattay

versatile function generator for creation of Stan Meyer pulse trains
« on October 9th, 2011, 01:47 PM »Last edited on October 9th, 2011, 02:04 PM by bussi04
I have found a versatile universal function generator.

http://www.vellemanusa.com/products/view/?country=us&lang=enu&id=523616


It covers a broad range of frequencies from 0.001 Hz up to 25 MHz.
Though the datasheet says 2 MHz competent Vellemann support tells the expanded range for pulses: http://forum.velleman.eu/viewforum.php?f=11


Sine, triangle and rectangular waveforms at variable voltage output are as remarkable as isolated USB connection to a PC as UI.

But most amazing is the feature to control the generator from an external program.

I have programmed a very first version of the program to produce user defined pulse trains usable for replication of Stan Meyer technology.

In contrast to hardware based solutions this generator can produce any pulse frequency train by a mouseclick. that way pulse train design becomes very easy, pulse trains can be protocolled and perfectly reproduced.

timers can be applied not only for frequency sweeps but also for gate time sweeps, duty cycle sweeps or all together.

due to software control pulses with timing of high complexity can be realized i.e.

16 pulses at 4 KHz duty cycle 30% on followed by 0.1 s gating pause then followed by 64 pulses at 16 kHz then followed by 3 seconds pause etc.


each created pulse train can be observed according to gas production and be documented in a protocol file linked to the actual pulse train.

the pulse output must be connected to a power stage which drives the VIC transformer.

perfect device!


bussi04

Here is a short description of the user interface:




you can input a single pulse timing by entering frequency and duty cycle or by entering pulse on and off times in µs. you can enter the number of pulses that shall build the pulse train and the same for the gating.
all values can be incremented and decremented using a user defined increment factor.



immediately or demanding a button push the new pulse train is generated.


the pulse voltage output level can be 5V TTL to be compatible to any pulse transformer driver.

For my purposes I have developed the following driver:



the snubber diodes P6KE are added to suppress reverse voltage spikes propagating reverse from the primary coil.

take care that all wires driving transformer amp flow are short and don´t influence the control stage to avoid vagabunding oscillations.


enjoy

bussi04

~Russ

RE: versatile function generator for creation of Stan Meyer pulse trains
« Reply #1, on October 9th, 2011, 03:01 PM »
Quote from bussi04 on October 9th, 2011, 01:47 PM
I have found a versatile universal function generator.

http://www.vellemanusa.com/products/view/?country=us&lang=enu&id=523616


It covers a broad range of frequencies from 0.001 Hz up to 25 MHz.
Though the datasheet says 2 MHz competent Vellemann support tells the expanded range for pulses: http://forum.velleman.eu/viewforum.php?f=11


Sine, triangle and rectangular waveforms at variable voltage output are as remarkable as isolated USB connection to a PC as UI.

But most amazing is the feature to control the generator from an external program.

I have programmed a very first version of the program to produce user defined pulse trains usable for replication of Stan Meyer technology.

In contrast to hardware based solutions this generator can produce any pulse frequency train by a mouseclick. that way pulse train design becomes very easy, pulse trains can be protocolled and perfectly reproduced.

timers can be applied not only for frequency sweeps but also for gate time sweeps, duty cycle sweeps or all together.

due to software control pulses with timing of high complexity can be realized i.e.

16 pulses at 4 KHz duty cycle 30% on followed by 0.1 s gating pause then followed by 64 pulses at 16 kHz then followed by 3 seconds pause etc.


each created pulse train can be observed according to gas production and be documented in a protocol file linked to the actual pulse train.

the pulse output must be connected to a power stage which drives the VIC transformer.

perfect device!


bussi04

Here is a short description of the user interface:




you can input a single pulse timing by entering frequency and duty cycle or by entering pulse on and off times in µs. you can enter the number of pulses that shall build the pulse train and the same for the gating.
all values can be incremented and decremented using a user defined increment factor.



immediately or demanding a button push the new pulse train is generated.


the pulse voltage output level can be 5V TTL to be compatible to any pulse transformer driver.

For my purposes I have developed the following driver:



the snubber diodes P6KE are added to suppress reverse voltage spikes propagating reverse from the primary coil.

take care that all wires driving transformer amp flow are short and don´t influence the control stage to avoid vagabunding oscillations.


enjoy

bussi04
i was going to get on of these a while back but i want to have a standalone system that is low tech. some items  things cant freely " runaway" with the high tech eketronice... but good stuff none the less.

here is what i came up with, and Kevin had added a lot of work to it: http://open-source-energy.org/?tid=110

thanks! ~Russ


phil

RE: versatile function generator for creation of Stan Meyer pulse trains
« Reply #2, on October 10th, 2011, 08:32 AM »Last edited on October 10th, 2011, 08:34 AM by phil
If found another piece of pc based hardware that might be of use to us. Its a programmable ignition system for  4-stroke single cylinder motocross engines. The timing can be varied by up to 32 degrees, appears theres an output to control a fuel (or water?) injector. From what i gather you can draw your own maps and send them to the CDI unit, shame it doesnt allow 'real time' tweeking while the engine is running. Also seen twin cylinder units for v-twin harley davidsons. Price isnt ridiculous either. Thought id stick this up here as ive been playing with a single cyl 4-stroke for hho experiments, possibly more of these units could be synced for multiple cylinders, doubt getting one apart would be very easy as they are usually potted.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YZ250F-YZF-Rev-Box-CDI-Programmable-Procom-New-2010-11-/110739162928?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19c8918730

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~Russ

RE: versatile function generator for creation of Stan Meyer pulse trains
« Reply #3, on October 10th, 2011, 09:15 AM »
Quote from phil on October 10th, 2011, 08:32 AM
If found another piece of pc based hardware that might be of use to us. Its a programmable ignition system for  4-stroke single cylinder motocross engines. The timing can be varied by up to 32 degrees, appears theres an output to control a fuel (or water?) injector. From what i gather you can draw your own maps and send them to the CDI unit, shame it doesnt allow 'real time' tweeking while the engine is running. Also seen twin cylinder units for v-twin harley davidsons. Price isnt ridiculous either. Thought id stick this up here as ive been playing with a single cyl 4-stroke for hho experiments, possibly more of these units could be synced for multiple cylinders, doubt getting one apart would be very easy as they are usually potted.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YZ250F-YZF-Rev-Box-CDI-Programmable-Procom-New-2010-11-/110739162928?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19c8918730
nice, now we need to find one that will fit in between the Distributor and the Distributor cap so we can do it the way stan did... :) " laser Distributor "

yeah! ~Russ